Kathleen Savio's death #2

[close_enough]

If you were to believe the pastor's hearsay, Stacy was a willing accessory-after-the-fact, a felon herself.

i believe the pastor....i think this is also something that DP held over Stacy's head, (the fact that she knew & would be an accessory, if she ever told anyone) AND i think she used it against him too, but probably near the end when she wanted him to leave.....so he killed her too..

 

[Angelray]

ya know...if this is the case & DP was at home that night/wee hours of the morning, dressed in all black, shoving clothes into a washing machine, telling Stacy what to say & that it "would be the perfect crime", then it was definately premeditated....he dressed in black & more than likely picked the lock at Kathleen's home...heck, he may have had a key for all we know...noooo, she would have been smarter than that & would have had the locks changed, no doubt in my mind.....

he picked the lock, went in & killed Kathleen that night....imo

No clothes at the scene to be checked and they wouldnt think to check his house for anything. I think same thing as you.

 

[close_enough]

How sick is it that he took Kathleens bed? Even in her death he was doing spiteful things to her. God help me I hate this man more and more every day!!!
VB

i know how you feel VB...just makes a person sick!

 

[Wudge]

i believe the pastor....i think this is also something that DP held over Stacy's head, (the fact that she knew & would be an accessory, if she ever told anyone) AND i think she used it against him too, but probably near the end when she wanted him to leave.....so he killed her too..

Drew is entitled to confront his accuser.

 

[close_enough]

Drew is entitled to confront his accuser.

yeah, that would be nice...

 

[close_enough]

No clothes at the scene to be checked and they wouldnt think to check his house for anything. I think same thing as you.

i'm betting it was her night clothes....he wrestled/hit her....either he drowned her in the toilet or the tub with water....afterward he took her clothes off to make it look like she'd been taking a bath.....i read that there was no water in the tub, so either the tub leaked/drained over a period of time, or he pulled the plug before he left.....(which wouldn't make sense to me, so i'd go with the tub drained on it's own over a period of time)

just speculating...my mind is going crazy, here lol

 

[Angelray]

i'm betting it was her night clothes....he wrestled/hit her....either he drowned her in the toilet or the tub with water....afterward he took her clothes off to make it look like she'd been taking a bath.....i read that there was no water in the tub, so either the tub leaked/drained over a period of time, or he pulled the plug before he left.....(which wouldn't make sense to me, so i'd go with the tub drained on it's own over a period of time)

just speculating...my mind is going crazy, here lol

They said cresent shaped brusies on her, maybe from a nightstand? Mine are sorta rounded on edge of them..

 

[Angelray]

If the tub had water in it wouldnt they be able to tell more about time of death if someone had came by sooner?

 

[close_enough]

They said cresent shaped brusies on her, maybe from a nightstand? Mine are sorta rounded on edge of them..

could be, lionheart....or a lamp, or something that DP brought himself...wonder how long Stacy tried to get hold of him while he was gone that night?...i know we've heard "numerous" times, so i'm wondering if the calls were back to back, or over a period of time....wonder how long DP was in Kathleen's home?

gosh, don't you know she was scared once she realized he was in her home?

 

[LaMer]

i believe the pastor....i think this is also something that DP held over Stacy's head, (the fact that she knew & would be an accessory, if she ever told anyone) AND i think she used it against him too, but probably near the end when she wanted him to leave.....so he killed her too..

close_enough, my thoughts exactly!

Were Staci and DP married at the time Kathleen had been found dead? :waitasec: I can't remember if they were living together or what. I do remember, the settlement had not been finalized at the time of Kathleen's death, and DP was supposedly in a hurry to marry Staci because she was pregnant right? Bottom line, were they married when she witnessed the washing the clothes incident?

 

[Angelray]

could be, lionheart....or a lamp, or something that DP brought himself...wonder how long Stacy tried to get hold of him while he was gone that night?...i know we've heard "numerous" times, so i'm wondering if the calls were back to back, or over a period of time....wonder how long DP was in Kathleen's home?

gosh, don't you know she was scared once she realized he was in her home?

When my ex and I split I woke up one night with him in my house standing in my bedroom doorway. One can only imagine what would go thru someone head.. I thought I was a gonner for sure.. In my opinion she would have been terrified.

 

[close_enough]

If the tub had water in it wouldnt they be able to tell more about time of death if someone had came by sooner?

gosh, i have no idea LH...i'm not up on that kind of information...TOD & all, just what i read here at WS, for the most part....i would think the temp of the water would have something to do with time of death, .... well rigormortis, anyway.....Wudge may know more about that....WAIT...i think i read about all of this on the 1st "Kathleen Savio death" thread....i think it was discussed in full on that thread....i guess i should read back on it, huh?

 

[Angelray]

me too cause I must have missed it.

 

[close_enough]

close_enough, my thoughts exactly!

Were Staci and DP married at the time Kathleen had been found dead? :waitasec: I can't remember if they were living together or what. I do remember, the settlement had not been finalized at the time of Kathleen's death, and DP was supposedly in a hurry to marry Staci because she was pregnant right? Bottom line, were they married when she witnessed the washing the clothes incident?

OK, from what i understand (& i could be wrong) Stacy & DP were married when Kathleen was killed, yet Kathleen & DP hadn't finalized the financial end of the divorce.....someone correct me if i'm wrong...

oh, & i read something else...i think it was an article posted on CTV....DP was scheduled to go to a hearing regarding this financial settlement shortly after Kathleen was killed...what i mean is there was a hearing on this, coming up, at the time she was killed....(am i making sense?)

as far as the timing of this hearing, i don't remember if was just days or 2-3 weeks away...

 

[i.b.nora]

Illinois State Police have requested another search warrant for additional
cell phone records relating to Drew Peterson.

(Presumably this is for the records having to do with the weekend that
Kathleen was "drowned".)

Drew Peterson May Have Transferred Thousands of Dollars to Son

 

[LaMer]

OK, from what i understand (& i could be wrong) Stacy & DP were married when Kathleen was killed, yet Kathleen & DP hadn't finalized the financial end of the divorce.....someone correct me if i'm wrong...

That is kind of what I remember too, but I wasn't sure. I'll have to read back ugh LOL

What a living nighmare Stacy walked into when getting involved with DP. She was so young and vulnerable. SAD

 

[philamena]

Drew is entitled to confront his accuser.

Yes but does he have the cajonna's to do so?

 

[close_enough]

When my ex and I split I woke up one night with him in my house standing in my bedroom doorway. One can only imagine what would go thru someone head.. I thought I was a gonner for sure.. In my opinion she would have been terrified.

oh, how scary for you
i'd just go ahead & have a heart attack, i do believe!

glad you're still here, safe & sound now LH
glad he's your EX!

 

[SuziQ]

i was so hoping Mark F HAD the phone records,,,,guess i'm jumpin the gun, so to speak....

Legally Mark can't get the phone records, and Nextel can't release them without a court order or warrant. All Mark was able to do was verify the procedure to allow for phone records to be released, that they exist all these years later, and by Nextels record keeping that the sequence of numbered record requests, that there wasn't anything missing. Mark even states that "you can "assume" by this that......"

 

[close_enough]

Legally Mark can't get the phone records, and Nextel can't release them without a court order or warrant. All Mark was able to do was verify the procedure to allow for phone records to be released, that they exist all these years later, and by Nextels record keeping that the sequence of numbered record requests, that there wasn't anything missing. Mark even states that "you can "assume" by this that......"

thanks Suzie

since you're here, do you remember the date that DP & Staci got married?...i can check it out, but thought you might know it off the top of your head...