Kathleen Savio's death #2

[Littledeer]

In that case, God Bless Mark!

LOL

And you for listenting too much!

Wow, I was just thinking, could there possibly be TWO trials for DP?? One for Kathy and one for Stacy??

 

[panthera]

In that case, God Bless Mark!

LOL

And you for listenting too much!

Wow, I was just thinking, could there possibly be TWO trials for DP?? One for Kathy and one for Stacy??

Thanks again and good question, but I wonder if and when that time comes it might be easier to combine them? I'm not sure if they'd do that but it seems it would be a stronger case against him.

 

[Littledeer]

bumping this forward from 11/13/07 on Kathy's Autopsy Report:

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[SuziQ]

Couldn't the state could introduce the cell phone records through a Nextel employee to verify them as authentic, without anyone from LE? LE could testify as to what DP & Stacy told them at the time and the jury could then figure out what the truth is.

Exactly!

 

[SuziQ]

Like I said before, if Drew and his attorney use the alibi, the state will enter the phone records. If Drew and his attorney don't use the alibi, then Drew has no alibi.

 

[SuziQ]

BTW Wudge, it was fun debating with you today!

 

[Littledeer]

Ditto for me Wudge!!!!

 

[panthera]

Like I said before, if Drew and his attorney use the alibi, the state will enter the phone records. If Drew and his attorney don't use the alibi, then Drew has no alibi.

If the cell phone records show that Stacy did try to call him the night Kathleen died and he really wasn't at home, then I think there's a better chance he could be tried for Kathleen's death than Stacy's unless her body is found and evidence leads back to him.

 

[SuziQ]

If the cell phone records show that Stacy did try to call him the night Kathleen died and he really wasn't at home, then I think there's a better chance he could be tried for Kathleen's death than Stacy's unless her body is found and evidence leads back to him.

That's what I am thinking.

 

[ACandyRose]

Stacy gave a statement to LE. You bet that would be admisable, with or without her.

I agree here completely.

Let's just hope that *statement* that Stacy made giving Drew the alibi that night is an official police statement still on file in Bolingbrook or whoever had all the paperwork for the so called investigation back then. I would think for Drew, back in March 2004 and for any years following, that having that official police statement in writing and on file by Stacy for his alibi would have been very important.

What I would interesting in knowing is.....

1) How far in advance did Drew plan that night to go to Kathleens?

2) Did he only tell Stacy about that night because she caught him red handed not being at home when she woke up? Otherwise he could have went out that night, did the deed, creeped back home, took his shower, hid the bag of clothing for later disposal, jumped back into bed with Stacy and she may have never known he was missing that night. So why admit to her that he killed Kathleen?

ACR

 

[Littledeer]

Acandyrose:

So why admit to her that he killed Kathleen?

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If Stacy had come out and seen DP all in black clothing with a bag of woman's clothing, he had no choice but to either tell Stacy the truth, or make up a lie.

In his mind, Stacy was still a "young" female that he was molding under his control, so he went with the "I will tell the truth" believing that Stacy would react in horror but yet, with 4 children, and DP being a "police officer" would in her own mind, make her believe she have no choice but to go along with it.

Thank God she did. She could have been "disappeared" in 2004 instead of 2007.

This is what makes me so sick..................she tried so hard to get out of that relationship alive.............

 

[panthera]

And I think this proves she knew too much and DP couldn't let her leave for fear she'd tell = more motive!

 

[Littledeer]

Amen Pathera.

I agree!

 

[SieSie]

Does anyone know if the letter that Kathy wrote(*.pdf*) to Elizabeth Fragale, Assistant States Attorney in Joliet will be admissable in court?

 

[panthera]

Amen Pathera.

I agree!

Just like they're saying on Greta's show, without Stacy being here to testify against DP about Kathleen's death, it will be hard to prove without the cell phone records that she tried to call him that night and he wasn't at home. The pastor couldn't testify to what she said since it's hearsay. So he had to get rid of Stacy.

 

[Wudge]

BTW Wudge, it was fun debating with you today!

(tip of my hat)

 

[philamena]

In that case, God Bless Mark!

LOL

And you for listenting too much!

Wow, I was just thinking, could there possibly be TWO trials for DP?? One for Kathy and one for Stacy??

That will be up to the state IF he is charged with 2 counts of murder.

 

[Wudge]

If the cell phone records show that Stacy did try to call him the night Kathleen died and he really wasn't at home, then I think there's a better chance he could be tried for Kathleen's death than Stacy's unless her body is found and evidence leads back to him.

A new Coroner's finding that the manner of Kathleen's death was murder combined potentially with phone calls from Stacy that would tend to diffuse Drew's alibi almost assuredly would lead to a criminal trial, because this is a high-profile case.

If this were not a high-profile case, it's unlikely this case would ever go to trial. Because Drew is a 29 year veteran of LE, and, in any courtroom in the nation, a jury would cut a 29 LE veteran a mountain of reasonable doubt slack. However, it is what it is, and Drew being highly unlikable has destroyed that innate advantage.

 

[panthera]

A new Coroner's finding that the manner of Kathleen's death was murder combined potentially with phone calls from Stacy that would tend to diffuse Drew's alibi almost assuredly would lead to a criminal trial, because this is a high-profile case.

If this were not a high-profile case, it's unlikely this case would ever go to trial. Because Drew is a 29 year veteran of LE, and, in any courtroom in the nation, a jury would cut a 29 LE veteran a mountain of reasonable doubt slack. However, it is what it is, and Drew being highly unlikable has destroyed that innate advantage.

Oh I agree the phone records would be key to prosecuting him for Kathleen's death since they'd blow apart his alibi. Then there's the financial motive. I, too, don't think he'd get any sympathy from a jury for being in LE all those years, in fact, they might hold him to a higher standard and convict him because he was sworn to uphold the law.

 

[Dobler]

I have one fear about the phone records- Nextel phones have a walkie-talkie feature- direct connect- if Stacy tried via direct connect instead of calling him, the records might not exist. My bill only shows the minutes used via direct connect. I'm not sure if she used that feature if they would be recorded.