Kathleen Savio's death #2

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  • #301
I have seen a photo of her brother Henry, and sister Anna at the vigil but certain if there addresses are current.

Thanks, was just thinking, I know why Drew(the limeball) didn't call one of them over when he was trying to get a hold of Kathleen. They would of seen ALL the bruses on her body(which they didn't know about til this last Novemeber).. And then there would of been a investigation for sure back then.
 
  • #302
Thanks, was just thinking, I know why Drew(the limeball) didn't call one of them over when he was trying to get a hold of Kathleen. They would of seen ALL the bruses on her body(which they didn't know about til this last Novemeber).. And then there would of been a investigation for sure back then.
The Savio family suspected from the beginning that Kathleen's "accidental drowning" was not accidental.
 
  • #303
The Savio family suspected from the beginning that Kathleen's "accidental drowning" was not accidental.

Ya I know, but they didn't know all of injury's til this last November...
 
  • #304
Ya I know, but they didn't know all of injury's til this last November...

That's the sad thing. They did know, and testified before the coroners jury. The past four years her family has known that DP beat the crap out of her and killed her, but no one would listen to them.

ETA: the first copies of the autopsy report that was published was provided by Kathleen's family.
 
  • #305
Does anyone know if DP was still @ the house when the LE and the Coroner's Office arrived? Was Steve and Mary still there? Who were the officers that answered the call? Are police reports considered "public records"? If so, can we get a copy of that report? If not us, maybe Greta? The statements of whoever was at the scene would/should be in those report(s).
 
  • #306
Does anyone know if DP was still @ the house when the LE and the Coroner's Office arrived? Was Steve and Mary still there? Who were the officers that answered the call? Are police reports considered "public records"? If so, can we get a copy of that report? If not us, maybe Greta? The statements of whoever was at the scene would/should be in those report(s).

Would other officers need to answer the call since Drew was on duty that night? He told a story everyone believed and I imagine not much took place at the house that night but some pictures and Drew's statement, backed up by Steve of course.
 
  • #307
The Peterson story: Sneed hears rumbles investigators probing the disappearance of Stacy Peterson and the mysterious death of her husband's third wife, Kathleen Savio, are looking into the water usage at the Peterson home during the time sequence surrounding the death and discovery of Savio's body.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/sneed/705801,CST-NWS-SNEED20.article
 
  • #308
Delta:

Would other officers need to answer the call since Drew was on duty that night? He told a story everyone believed and I imagine not much took place at the house that night but some pictures and Drew's statement, backed up by Steve of course.

IMO, in any "suspicious" death, you are going to have more that one officer come to the scene, NO WAY IS THE OFFICER THAT FOUND THE ORIGINAL SCENE, going to be the Official "report making" police officer. Mabye I shoud have rephrased my question.

According to what has been written, DP, Steve C. and Mary were in the house when Kathleen was found dead. Who made the call to the police?

Then I was asking if DP was still there when they arrived?? If anyone knew? Then, IMO, statements would have had to been taken by all three of them by the ARRIVING OFFICERS, (including the Police Officer (DP himself).

Could those records be available??
 
  • #309
Not available to the public, I am guessing. LE would have to provide those to the GJ if they were compelled to do so by a judge, I think...but not sure.
 
  • #310
SS:

Interesting. So your saying that Police Reports and I guess that would also include Autopsy Reports can only be public records if a Judge declares them to be so??

So they are not covered under the "Public Records Commission Act"?
 
  • #311
SS:

Interesting. So your saying that Police Reports and I guess that would also include Autopsy Reports can only be public records if a Judge declares them to be so??

So they are not covered under the "Public Records Commission Act"?
Police reports involving auto accidents are public record, I think. I don't know if I have ever seen one involving an accidental death. Good question. The 911 call would be released if someone like a news org. requested it and the request was granted...yes? I just don't know!
 
  • #312
Stanley Sisters......................911 calls...................ring a ling.

Autopsy reports.....................ring a ling.

Guess I am back to "Police Reports"...........if they are public records? And that is the question I wish there is someone that can answer it.
 
  • #313
One thing that keeps bothering me about how Kathleen was found is this.
According to DrewP he hadn't heard from her for a few days and was trying to drop the kids off. So finally he goes to her house, without the children and it just happens to coincide to the time his buddy Steve comes along after he gets off work. He tells Steve he's waiting for a locksmith! Ok now what in the world would ever give him the right to take it upon himself to have a locksmith come? He was no longer married to Kathleen, there had already been problems according to her about him coming into the house in the past, yet he thinks it's perfectly acceptable for him to get a locksmith to enter the house so he can enter? The only reasonable way I see to handle a situation like this would be to have notified the police department and have them decide if the house needed to be broken into.
Had DrewP done any type of checking before hand to see if Kathleen was in an accident, at the hospital or anything? Are there any phone records showing him calling her home or a cell phone? It just galls me to think DrewP felt he had any right to enter her home the way he did.

VB
 
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One thing that keeps bothering me about how Kathleen was found is this.
According to DrewP he hadn't heard from her for a few days and was trying to drop the kids off. So finally he goes to her house, without the children and it just happens to coincide to the time his buddy Steve comes along after he gets off work. He tells Steve he's waiting for a locksmith! Ok now what in the world would ever give him the right to take it upon himself to have a locksmith come? He was no longer married to Kathleen, there had already been problems according to her about him coming into the house in the past, yet he thinks it's perfectly acceptable for him to get a locksmith to enter the house so he can enter? The only reasonable way I see to handle a situation like this would be to have notified the police department and have them decide if the house needed to be broken into.
Had DrewP done any type of checking before hand to see if Kathleen was in an accident, at the hospital or anything? Are there any phone records showing him calling her home or a cell phone? It just galls me to think DrewP felt he had any right to enter her home the way he did.

VB

In my hubby's PD, an officer is to avoid acting in an official capacity with his own family, meaning he would definitly be expected to call in a "welfare check" and wait for other officers, ideally a supervisor, to check it out.
It would be very improper for a former husband to be searching his ex-wife's residence in any official capacity.

In most departments, the same principle would certainly apply to any domestic situation and even even to traffic tickets. Dealing with family is automaticly a conflict of interest. When dealing with relatives of an officer, the presence of a supervisor of higher rank than the officer involved would be the preferred way to go.

Susan
 
  • #316
In my hubby's PD, an officer is to avoid acting in an official capacity with his own family, meaning he would definitly be expected to call in a "welfare check" and wait for other officers, ideally a supervisor, to check it out.
It would be very improper for a former husband to be searching his ex-wife's residence in any official capacity.

In most departments, the same principle would certainly apply to any domestic situation and even even to traffic tickets. Dealing with family is automaticly a conflict of interest. When dealing with relatives of an officer, the presence of a supervisor of higher rank than the officer involved would be the preferred way to go.

Susan
I'm sure that is the way a good shipshape PD is managed. The report on an accident should be thorough and an open book. With Drew there at the scene one truly wonders if a supervisor was called in to inspect the scene. The Savio family have truly suffered. They not only lost Kathleen and contact with her sons but at the same time they were treated badly by Drew and ignored by law enforcement. How frustrating and demoralizing it had to be for them. Now with another wife missing the public is not sympathetic and with a new chief some of our websleuther's questions might be answered. It's too bad they weren't answered when Kathleen "accidently" drowned.
 
  • #317
I think that for us to think everything surrounding the finding of Kathleen's body to the way the coroners jury was handled would have been properly done according to normal police standards would be a wrong assumption. This was before the new chief came on board. I think that department was totally mismanaged and that many things were done however people wanted them done..regardless of the rules and regs. Drew had been getting away with a lot up until then. I think the way the dept was run that it is very possible that very few people were called to the scene and that everyone unquestionably went along with whatever Drew stated. The heart problems the EMS were told Kathleen had, but yet the autopsy didn't support, the cop on the jury, etc. He literally got away with murder.
 
  • #318
One thing that keeps bothering me about how Kathleen was found is this.
According to DrewP he hadn't heard from her for a few days and was trying to drop the kids off. So finally he goes to her house, without the children and it just happens to coincide to the time his buddy Steve comes along after he gets off work. He tells Steve he's waiting for a locksmith! Ok now what in the world would ever give him the right to take it upon himself to have a locksmith come? He was no longer married to Kathleen, there had already been problems according to her about him coming into the house in the past, yet he thinks it's perfectly acceptable for him to get a locksmith to enter the house so he can enter? The only reasonable way I see to handle a situation like this would be to have notified the police department and have them decide if the house needed to be broken into.
Had DrewP done any type of checking before hand to see if Kathleen was in an accident, at the hospital or anything? Are there any phone records showing him calling her home or a cell phone? It just galls me to think DrewP felt he had any right to enter her home the way he did.

VB
And wasn't he on duty when Kathleen's body was found? I couldn't figure out why it became so urgent to return the children after he got to work, to the point of getting a locksmith. Unless of course, he knew she was dead.
 
  • #319
One thing that keeps bothering me about how Kathleen was found is this.
According to DrewP he hadn't heard from her for a few days and was trying to drop the kids off. So finally he goes to her house, without the children and it just happens to coincide to the time his buddy Steve comes along after he gets off work. He tells Steve he's waiting for a locksmith! Ok now what in the world would ever give him the right to take it upon himself to have a locksmith come? He was no longer married to Kathleen, there had already been problems according to her about him coming into the house in the past, yet he thinks it's perfectly acceptable for him to get a locksmith to enter the house so he can enter? The only reasonable way I see to handle a situation like this would be to have notified the police department and have them decide if the house needed to be broken into.
Had DrewP done any type of checking before hand to see if Kathleen was in an accident, at the hospital or anything? Are there any phone records showing him calling her home or a cell phone? It just galls me to think DrewP felt he had any right to enter her home the way he did. VB

It wasn't HER home. Although the two were divorced, the property had not yet been settled. It was still joint property.
 
  • #320
Even if it was "joint property", I would think that a spouse that has the childen and have been trying for a day and a half to contact the other spouse to return the children per "visitation rights", would have called the spouse's family members to see where he/she is at??

Heck, I would be very concerned about my exe's welfare after 4 hours of not being able to return the children. Most exe's, usually (the mother) are very stringent on the ex returning the children at the exact time the court stipulated.

Who the heck doesn't get concerned PRIOR TO 4 OR 5 HOURS, LET ALONE A DAY AND A HALF?????
 
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