Kentucky - Judge killed, sheriff arrested in Letcher County courthouse shooting - Sep. 19, 2024 # 4

[OldAce]

protesteth too much?

She is finally an adult who can make her own independent decision to address the cloud of rumors she's been forced to live under for the last year?

Even Stines' attorney has stated the judge and the daughter had zero, zip, nada relationship. Are you suggesting the rumors are true? I thought your theory of the case was built around the judge's alleged malfeasance
regarding "sex parties" and drug court?

No, to any truth in rumors.
Yes, to my theories on the underlying cause.
Her presentation was smooth and practiced. Her appearance is very attractive and styled as to earlier pics in various views. Review the article. She refers to TikToK and number of her earlier followers. She refer to awakening to her phone stressing her.
She has been quiet until now, handling all this. Strong, stalwart... But the case has quieting down, even on here.
So; get an interview and revive it some. She may even have offers to rep some product.
In short, there was no need to speak... Now there is. What has changed?

 

[tlcya]

No, to any truth in rumors.
Yes, to my theories on the underlying cause.
Her presentation was smooth and practiced. Her appearance is very attractive and styled as to earlier pics in various views. Review the article. She refers to TikToK and number of her earlier followers. She refer to awakening to her phone stressing her.
She has been quiet until now, handling all this. Strong, stalwart... But the case has quieting down, even on here.
So; get an interview and revive it some. She may even have offers to rep some product.
In short, there was no need to speak... Now there is. What has changed?

thank you for answering my question. I don't think she is motivated by likes or views but that is only MOO we can agree to disagree.

 

[arielilane]

Court tv has reached out to Lila Stines and to defendant's attorney for comment, no response at this time.



Timestamp 0:35
Well, during grand jury testimony last month, a detective revealed that Mullins did not have

any sort of relationship with Stines' daughter, and now for the first time we're hearing from

18-year-old Lila Stines, who talked about it on TikTok.

We're playing the whole video for you unedited.

Here we go


Timestamp 0:58
My name is Lila Stines. I am 18 years old, and I am from Letcher County,

Kentucky. Most of you may know me, and the others

may recognize my last name.

On September 19th, a little over a year ago.

A lot of people's lives changed forever, including mine.

I'm not going to go into detail. I will not be talking about it.

But I just have one question.

Do you all not have anything better to do than sit and gossip?

You are taking my pain and making it your pleasure.

You're taking our stories and turning them into big entertainment pieces,

jokes, and for that matter, you're making it your income.

Since when did that become okay?

So, my advice to the people doing that.

Get a job. Do something meaningful with your life.

And contribute to society.

In a positive way.

That's all.

I came here today to address a couple

things about yesterday's video.

When I posted that video, I only had about 950 followers.

I did not think it would go anywhere. I thought,

you know, people from home are gonna see it, maybe a couple others.

And that'll be that. So the first thing I want to say is I had good

intentions with that video.

A lot of you were asking what stories, what do you mean by gossip,

and what I mean by that is the stories that were made up about me and the other party,

and that is where the gossip comes in at.


More at link...

Mickey Stines' Daughter Speaks Out | Sheriff Shoots Judge Murder Case​

Mickey Stines' daughter, Lila Stines, speaks out and responds to rumors about her father's case. Mickey is accused of fatally shooting District Judge Kevin Mullins in chambers following an argument.

 

[Sillybilly]

ADMIN NOTE:

It's fine to discuss what the Sheriff's daughter said in MSM or other approved sources, but sleuthing her and encouraging others to do so is absolutely off limits.

Next member to do so will receive a 1 week Time Out.

Post accordingly. Thanks !!

 

[worm]

His daughter is a victim in this and I can understand her frustration.

 

[FromGermany1]

what do you mean by very straight?

Strong and self-confident, mature. (I was listening to a few sentences only.)
"Straight" is the wrong term.

 

[tlcya]

Strong and self-confident, mature. (I was listening to a few sentences only.)
"Straight" is the wrong term.

straight forward may have been the term you were searching for. and I agree.

 

[worm]

Court TV is going to report on the daughters statements tonight at 8 on VP Investigates.

 

[sunspun]

straight forward may have been the term you were searching for. and I agree.

also agree. I thought also of the word "forthright" in describing her and her delivery.

 

[Boxer]

My theory is the Sheriff killed Stines to silence Mullins in upcoming investigations and to avenge his loss of career as a sheriff that an investigation was going to cause. MOO the call to his daughter was an intentional mislead.
MOO thats it, Stines was compromised and going down with Mullins.

 

[Ontario Mom]

My theory is the Sheriff killed Stines to silence Mullins in upcoming investigations and to avenge his loss of career as a sheriff that an investigation was going to cause. MOO the call to his daughter was an intentional mislead.
MOO thats it, Stines was compromised and going down with Mullins.

Let's say Mullins had something on Stines, as you theorize, and whatever that something was, was criminal and carried the possibility of hard prison time.

Wouldn't that be the better option than the prison time Stines is facing now, for murder?

 

[Chimera]

My theory is the Sheriff killed Stines to silence Mullins in upcoming investigations and to avenge his loss of career as a sheriff that an investigation was going to cause. MOO the call to his daughter was an intentional mislead.
MOO thats it, Stines was compromised and going down with Mullins.

Emphasis mine.
A good point.
Wonder what that might have been, if so ?
Something worse than spending the rest of his days in prison ?
Hmmm.
Imo.

 

[Boxer]

Emphasis mine.
A good point.
Wonder what that might have been, if so ?
Something worse than spending the rest of his days in prison ?
Hmmm.
Imo.

MOO anything that Mullins knew about that Stines feared would come out under duress of a trial.
It explains the sky high anxiety levels as Stines realized from his deposition sitting that Mullins would be going down.

 

[rogue ant]

Does anyone remember if any details came out about the mood at the lunch just before the shooting? Specifically Mullins/Stones.

 

[Auntie Cipation]

Does anyone remember if any details came out about the mood at the lunch just before the shooting? Specifically Mullins/Stones.

What I recall (JMO) is that there were others at lunch with them, and those others did not report any hints of what was about to happen.

 

[Luna20]

Does anyone remember if any details came out about the mood at the lunch just before the shooting? Specifically Mullins/Stones.

There was a comment from a staff member about Stines being really off that day. Saying that he was typically lighthearted and funny. So clearly something was going on with him.

 

[sunspun]

Does anyone remember if any details came out about the mood at the lunch just before the shooting? Specifically Mullins/Stones.

Just off the top of my head, I remember people thinking that the sheriff had been quieter than usual (in general right before the shooting, not just at lunch). And during the lunch, it was reported that the sheriff tried to bring up a subject with the judge, but before he could get too far into it, the judge said something like, "Don't you think we should wait and talk about this in my chambers?" And I guess the subject was then dropped.

Tried to Google what exactly was said at lunch. What I have here is what AI told me about this:

During the lunch on September 19, 2024, Judge Kevin Mullins' demeanor appeared normal and unagitated, showing no sign of any dispute with Sheriff Shawn "Mickey" Stines. The encounter at the restaurant, which included other people, was reportedly amicable, with the judge and sheriff exhibiting their long-standing friendship rather than animosity.
The only reported remark by Mullins during the lunch that suggested any serious discussion was his question to Stines, "Do we need to meet private in my chambers?". This question was reportedly posed calmly and did not seem to be part of a heated or angry exchange at the restaurant.
In summary, witnesses did not report anything unusual or confrontational about Judge Mullins' behavior at the lunch. The apparent calmness stands in stark contrast to the intense and ultimately deadly confrontation that would take place later that day in his chambers.
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And looks like that info came from this article:

https://www.cnn.com/2024/11/25/us/sheriff-mickey-stines-judge-kevin-mullins#:~:text=The%20full%20video%20shows%20Stines,US

 

[Boxer]

Let's say Mullins had something on Stines, as you theorize, and whatever that something was, was criminal and carried the possibility of hard prison time.

Wouldn't that be the better option than the prison time Stines is facing now, for murder?

Maybe, but if he is losing being sheriff he may not care about the consequences after.

 

[jepop]

Maybe, but if he is losing being sheriff he may not care about the consequences after.

I've also often considered that Stine's could have definately been motivated by self interest (although I know there is currently no real back up to such a speculation).

Moo it is probably timely for an independent federal investigation into the sex scandal accusations... Mullins was executed so he cannot speak for himself, or as you say potentially implicate Stines down the road, and KY LE do not appear to offer any transparency as to whether he (Mullins) was ever investigated before, during or after the Field's investigation.

I tend towards Stine's execution of the judge as likely to be either about Stine's protecting himself ( silencing Mullins about something only he (Mullins) knew and something intensely shameful - and illegal - to Stines ), or a straight up rage murder based on some sort of paranoia to do with Stines' family and a perception that Mullins had 'betrayed' him in some way by siding with his family against him.

I don't think Stine's executed Mullins in an act of martyrdom or that it was somehow "ethically" motivated. My guess is Stines will probably attempt an insanity defense but from what we know so far I don't see that he was insane at the time ... I think the motive is either self interest through silencing or rage fueled revenge for a perceived betrayal.Jmo

Moo Stines deserves whatever the penalty is for first degree murder. Given he was sheriff, that is an aggravating factor. In his position unless an independent number of shrinks genuinely find he was and is insane/psychotic, what mitigating factors can there be for this cold-blooded execution? I think it is dangerous for the future of law abiding civil society to minimise, excuse or condone Stine's act of murder of a defenseless man. Jmo

 

[Ontario Mom]

Maybe, but if he is losing being sheriff he may not care about the consequences after.

It seems with as freely as folks are speaking down there in Letcher county, if Stines had some shady stuff going on the judge knew about, folks would be talking. Except curiously, with all the accusations folks are making about all sorts of things, so far, none of them have mentioned Mickey Stines' name in all this. That really stands out to me.