Kentucky - Judge killed, sheriff arrested in Letcher County courthouse shooting - Sep. 19, 2024 # 4

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If the EPO were against Stines, I can’t see where any judge other than Mullins would need to have signed it. These are emergency ex parte proceedings, and there would have been no time to find a judge from another jurisdiction who didn’t know Stines personally who could fill in if Mullins had wanted to recuse himself. Furthermore, any ruling against Stines would suggest that Mullins would not have been acting on bias.

Just for the sake of argument, assuming for a moment that Stines’ wife was fearful of him and produced evidence before Mullins that she was in need of an EPO, that EPO would likely have included an eviction clause, which would explain why Stines was not staying at his home with his family. It might also explain why he reached out to his daughter and aunt but not his wife in the minutes prior to the shooting, as he would not be permitted to contact his wife.

As far as his weapon goes, there could have been a clause that allows him to carry at his place of employment but also precludes him from keeping personal weapons. He likely would have had to surrender those.

Any provisions in an emergency order would be temporary until an actual hearing with both parties present in several days’ time. I’m not certain about KY, but where I live, the hearing must take place within 10 days.

If the order were against Stines, likely service would have been executed by someone within his own office, with a copy stored both in his office and in any municipal police department covering his place of residence.

TLDR: Likely everyone Stines works with would have known the content of an emergency EPO against him.

All speculation and moo and ime.
 
  • #22
If the EPO were against Stines, I can’t see where any judge other than Mullins would need to have signed it. These are emergency ex parte proceedings, and there would have been no time to find a judge from another jurisdiction who didn’t know Stines personally who could fill in if Mullins had wanted to recuse himself. Furthermore, any ruling against Stines would suggest that Mullins would not have been acting on bias.

Just for the sake of argument, assuming for a moment that Stines’ wife was fearful of him and produced evidence before Mullins that she was in need of an EPO, that EPO would likely have included an eviction clause, which would explain why Stines was not staying at his home with his family. It might also explain why he reached out to his daughter and aunt but not his wife in the minutes prior to the shooting, as he would not be permitted to contact his wife.

As far as his weapon goes, there could have been a clause that allows him to carry at his place of employment but also precludes him from keeping personal weapons. He likely would have had to surrender those.

Any provisions in an emergency order would be temporary until an actual hearing with both parties present in several days’ time. I’m not certain about KY, but where I live, the hearing must take place within 10 days.

If the order were against Stines, likely service would have been executed by someone within his own office, with a copy stored both in his office and in any municipal police department covering his place of residence.

TLDR: Likely everyone Stines works with would have known the content of an emergency EPO against him.

All speculation and moo and ime.
I would think if there was DVO/EPO we would see that. I can't speak for Kentucky, but generally those are on open docket. The specifics maybe redacted but the docket should appear.
 
  • #23
I would think if there was DVO/EPO we would see that. I can't speak for Kentucky, but generally those are on open docket. The specifics maybe redacted but the docket should appear.
good point, but a search of the court/gov site doesn't show Stines as either a respondent or petitioner in any sort of case aside from his criminal charges for the murder of Mulins.

Which I find odd because wasn't he a named party in the civil suit filed by the former prisoner? Oh wait, that one is a federal case so wouldn't appear on the KY site. never mind, answered my own dang self.

This begs the question what was this file he wanted to talk to Kevin about and who was getting an EPO on whom and does it factor into this case?
 
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good point, but a search of the court/gov site doesn't show Stines as either a respondent or petitioner in any sort of case aside from his criminal charges for the murder of Mulins.

Which I find odd because wasn't he a named party in the civil suit filed by the former prisoner? Oh wait, that one is a federal case so wouldn't appear on the KY site. never mind, answered my own dang self.

This begs the question what was this file he wanted to talk to Kevin about and who was getting an EPO on whom and does it factor into this case?
Maybe the file was just some random file Stines grabbed and was just an excuse to talk to the judge alone.
 
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Maybe the file was just some random file Stines grabbed and was just an excuse to talk to the judge alone.
Now that is an interesting thought. An excuse to need a minute alone w judge. Not an actual time sensitive situation. hmm
 
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Now that is an interesting thought. An excuse to need a minute alone w judge. Not an actual time sensitive situation. hmm

My understanding is Stines was only observed with the (EPO?) file before lunch when a female witness talks about being on Zoom when Stines entered, wanting to talk to Kevin (Mullins). In the video, we don't see Stines with any file when he's seated with the group in chambers or when he later returns after lunch and clears the room, and minutes later executes Mullins. I agree, there was no actual time-sensitive situation, and Stines decided to wait until after lunch to carry out his deed. JMO
 
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A few months ago we talked about how Stines and Muller hadn't yet been removed from the county websites. Out of curiosity I just checked and, yup, they are still listed there...

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I know things sometimes move a little slower in that part of the country, but this is ridiculous.
 
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@genjustlaw


Former Letcher County Sheriff Shawn “Mickey” Stines, wants his psychological evaluation unsealed.Stines is charged with the murder of District Judge Kevin Mullins on September 19, 2024, inside Mullins’ chambers at the Letcher County Courthouse in Kentucky.


2:12 PM · Aug 6, 2025


interesting. And not something I expected. I can only assume those records must support his counsel's apparent emotional disturbance, mental breakdown, snapped defense.

Can't wait for a decision

from the link:

According to the motion, the evaluation "was previously conducted and filed under seal by the court," and the results are relevant to issues anticipated for an August 15 hearing.

Also appreciated the reminder that he has a curt date on the 15th
 
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it appears court tv will also have live coverage

 
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Please keep us posted on updates for the working folks!
 
  • #34
Court TV is going live right now.
 
  • #35
Livestream.

 
  • #36
Defense's Motion to dismiss is being discussed now.
 
  • #37
objects to det. Stamper's answer when asked by the GJ if he thought Stines was "in his right mind" when he committed the murder. Stamper is no medical expect and so defense feels that was out of line. (I wonder if this relates to their recent request to unseal Stines medical records?)
 
  • #38
if Motion to Dismiss isn't granted Defense would like an evidentiary hearing.

Prosecution responds now saying the motion is wholly without merit.
 
  • #39
per prosecutors, no witnesses appeared before the GJ, nobody gave "testimony", the GJ saw and heard from the prosecutors and the detective investigating the case.
 
  • #40
the GJ knew what this case was about because of it's notoriety. Not because some secret hearing had already taken place as the defense seems to suggest. They immediately began to ask questions. We did not answer many of those questions.
 

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