GUILTY KS - Alicia DeBolt, 14, Great Bend, 21 August 2010 - #3

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  • #321
When you look at JB's post of Sept 29, he was responding to an earlier comment, made me wonder if he was talking about Eva....maybe I am wrong. I did not take it as disturbing but if JB and SB are discussing Eva, they are basically saying that she is messed up. MOO

Same goes for sis in law .

Sept 28 @ 8:53 am.

Sounds like they are pretty frustrated with her and trying their best to talk some sense into her, with no luck. They have been thru a lot, no doubt. She brought this 🤬🤬🤬 into their lives.
 
  • #322
How do we know she didn't call police?

She is clearly messed up in the head. And you don't wake up from that overnight. Especially when living under same roof as a manipulator. One she might have started to fear, and where do you go?


Start with LE. If her brother or friends couldn't help her, they could put her in touch with people that could. (Safehouse) I just can't believe that LE would put her children in danger, if she was cooperating with them and they had a big clue he was the perp. I agree that you don't wake up from the experience overnight....but you get the H out. I only dated one, but was not left alone. It's terrifying...you vacillate from being scared to furious.
 
  • #323
I cant find a connection to her either. I believe the genealogy page I found was from EMB and JBs mothers side so IM assuming she must be a daughter of thier father. Link to genealogy page

http://www.chenowethsite.com/chj1jj0.htm

FYI

That's the website I found too.

First Capital Murder Trial in Kansas to have online court doc's open to the Public

http://www.hutchnews.com/Publicsafety/Longoria-motions-online--2

This has been invaluable, cathdawg. Kudos to the Judge and Webmaster! I be Jade.
http://hutchnews.com/Localregional/Longoria-case-follow--2
 
  • #324
Sister -in-laws SBs FB page look at Sept 28th post with 4 comments
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=504627314&v=wall
Brother JBs FB page look at Sept 29ths post
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=1416941148

Is it the same 'SB' posting on the 'R.I.P. Alicia Danielle DeBolt' FB page?
(Sept. 29/9:30p)
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php...Alicia-Danielle-DeBolt/153692357976160?v=wall

Also, Alicia's sis re-posted her very last post on FB before she was murdered..She talks about going shopping all day which we knew but she also says she hopes she might see 'J'..Do we know who 'J' is?

I hope it's OK to post all the above info. I don't know all the rules on WS re: FB comments. Can someone let me know? TIA!
 
  • #325
Is it the same 'SB' posting on the 'R.I.P. Alicia Danielle DeBolt' FB page?
(Sept. 29/9:30p)
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php...Alicia-Danielle-DeBolt/153692357976160?v=wall

Also, Alicia's sis re-posted her very last post on FB before she was murdered..She talks about going shopping all day which we knew but she also says she hopes she might see 'J'..Do we know who 'J' is?

I hope it's OK to post all the above info. I don't know all the rules on WS re: FB comments. Can someone let me know? TIA!


LOL. I don't think any of us know all the rules. Here is a link with some of the rules, as a mod has stated, some areas are seen as being in that grey area and left to the mod's descretion. HTH

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=95070&page=2
 
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OK, now your turn to teach....I keyed in her/his name and GB, KS and got nothing. How did you find them? Thank you, BTW.

I went to my FB page and searched his name. Then got hers off his friend list. Ive had them saved in my favorites for quite some time.
 
  • #328
I answered my own Q by clicking on SB's name..It is her cos it went to the same SB facebook linked in a post above.

It's says a lot that she's supporting the DeBolt family. I wonder how EB feels about this? :waitasec:

J is JD who replied in a post on the 27th. Don't know if just friend or what the relationship was.
 
  • #329
I went to my FB page and searched his name. Then got hers off his friend list. Ive had them saved in my favorites for quite some time.

Just searching his name brought up many JB's, did you key in anything specific to find it?
 
  • #330
Is it the same 'SB' posting on the 'R.I.P. Alicia Danielle DeBolt' FB page?
(Sept. 29/9:30p)
http://www.facebook.com/profile.php...Alicia-Danielle-DeBolt/153692357976160?v=wall

Also, Alicia's sis re-posted her very last post on FB before she was murdered..She talks about going shopping all day which we knew but she also says she hopes she might see 'J'..Do we know who 'J' is?

I hope it's OK to post all the above info. I don't know all the rules on WS re: FB comments. Can someone let me know? TIA!

Im not exactly sure of the J connection with AD except he is a friend, but he has posted on the R.I.P.Alicia DeBolt FB page several times. SB and JB have both posted thier support for the family on it too.
 
  • #331
Just searching his name brought up many JB's, did you key in anything specific to find it?

I put in Great Bend High School in the school section of the refined search.
 
  • #332
Im not exactly sure of the J connection with AD except he is a friend, but he has posted on the R.I.P.Alicia DeBolt FB page several times. SB and JB have both posted thier support for the family on it too.

Thanks for the info on SB & JB..They seem like good people..I wasn't sure if J was male or female..Do you know if J has a FB or MySpace page? I'm kinda new to FB so my Q is if someone posts on a FB page does it always mean they have their own? TIA!
 
  • #333
Thanks for the info on SB & JB..They seem like good people..I wasn't sure if J was male or female..Do you know if J has a FB or MySpace page? I'm kinda new to FB so my Q is if someone posts on a FB page does it always mean they have their own? TIA!

I think you answered your own question again in the your above post #376:

I answered my own Q by clicking on SB's name..It is her cos it went to the same SB facebook linked in a post above.
 
  • #334
Thanks for the info on SB & JB..They seem like good people..I wasn't sure if J was male or female..Do you know if J has a FB or MySpace page? I'm kinda new to FB so my Q is if someone posts on a FB page does it always mean they have their own? TIA!

Ok im going to try to answer all this in order. J is a male. He does have a FB page but its set to private. You do have to have a FB account to post but you can go on and read any pages set to public without an account. From what I have seen J, JB, and SB all seem to be good people thrown into a horrible situation. JMO
 
  • #335
FYI: two more responses to motions filed today, discovery and common law marriage.
 
  • #336
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Start with LE. If her brother or friends couldn't help her, they could put her in touch with people that could. (Safehouse) I just can't believe that LE would put her children in danger, if she was cooperating with them and they had a big clue he was the perp. I agree that you don't wake up from the experience overnight....but you get the H out. I only dated one, but was not left alone. It's terrifying...you vacillate from being scared to furious.

Safehouse? You think these people have the first clue? And perhaps she wasn't trusting of LE (I sure as heck wouldn't be, given a dang court and a piece of worthless paper "preventing" contact).

That works great in the movies, not so much in real life in all areas of the country. Reality is that some people truly have nowhere to go, or at least believe they don't, and from what little we have heard (from her brother on camera, she thought he was Mr Wonderful and signs of abuse. Her head was messed up by this guy, no doubt. But this all went down fast and furious, and IF she got a clue, AD's body was found before a half reasonable person could put it together and make an informed and thoughtful decision.

Think she made one of those when she invited him into her life and home? Not so much. Is she still under his control? Maybe, maybe not.

Quite frankly, I'm disgusted that her brother and some sister who may or may not be a sister (their family genealogy, given she is not charged and on trial, I do not feel should be public fodder) are apparently throwing her under the bus on their public networking pages.

If they were my family and I needed help, I sure as sh*t-on-a-shingle wouldn't be calling them!

At least give her credit for getting moved out of there as fast as she was arrested.
 
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Safehouse? You think these people have the first clue? And perhaps she wasn't trusting of LE (I sure as heck wouldn't be, given a dang court and a piece of worthless paper "preventing" contact).

That works great in the movies, not so much in real life in all areas of the country. Reality is that some people truly have nowhere to go, or at least believe they don't, and from what little we have heard (from her brother on camera, she thought he was Mr Wonderful and signs of abuse. Her head was messed up by this guy, no doubt. But this all went down fast and furious, and IF she got a clue, AD's body was found before a half reasonable person could put it together and make an informed and thoughtful decision.

Think she made one of those when she invited him into her life and home? Not so much. Is she still under his control? Maybe, maybe not.

Quite frankly, I'm disgusted that her brother and some sister who may or may not be a sister (their family genealogy, given she is not charged and on trial, I do not feel should be public fodder) are apparently throwing her under the bus on their public networking pages.

If they were my family and I needed help, I sure as sh*t-on-a-shingle wouldn't be calling them!

At least give her credit for getting moved out of there as fast as she was arrested.

Safehouses are a very good option....hence the name. Now if the girlfriend decided afterwards to make contact with abuser again, she would have to leave....prior to contact. Women are very strictly forbidden not to contact their abuser in order to gain admittance to the shelter....it puts everyone there in danger. This is why it's so important in the community to let the women know this is a available to them. I agree with you on an order of protection...they aren't worth the paper they are written on for protection, only if you survive and prosecute...or if you don't survive, it helps against them in court. Ta da.

Where did you see info on her being abused? I must have missed that. I don't doubt that it took place, but I don't remember seeing it anywhere.

EMB's head was pretty well not screwed on tight before she met AL, imo. Who in their right mind starts a love affair via written word to a prison inmate and then invites them into their home...WITH CHILDREN. He had to cut the shirt into 3 pcs and discard in different locations for what? A strange love ritual? She had from Sat night till Friday to figure it out...and all the questions westsidefox64 mentioned previously should have given anyone with a half a brain a whiff of alarm. Maybe she didn't want to fess up to the family where she actually met him? Could be they had no idea what she brought in amongst them and was scared. I could understand that...if it was just her, but she has kids. Would love to be a fly on the wall for their psychological evaluation right now. If she is still under his control....she's the one giving him that power....not him and she has to realize that. Unless....dear God what if she's pregnant? :banghead:

As far as the family, the brother was there for her to help her move and the only thing I've seen on personal pages is concern and disturbance because she apparently doesn't want to take their advice. It sorta tells me that she may be in too deep.....I'm not ready to take it off the table, that she may be more involved than we know....and that includes more than just destroying evidence. Did you ever think that she may have been so insecure about her relationship, that she may have done more? Felt her security was being challenged by a young 14 old girl with no ties....like children? What would happen if AD came up pregnant from him? Etc. Just moo, but I don't think AD did, and I would be shocked if she did, but I'm keeping my mind open for anything and everything at this point. Just why in the world would she think he was innocent...if that story is true....and he's an ex-con who's been in prison college for the last 18 years???

The sister from left field....maybe there was tension because of the family.. Maybe when the father passed, there was conflict over the estate? EMB had a low-income grant/loan, whatever it's called, in 2006 and 07 for over 10K for home repairs. Where is that house now? The telling sister is not on the brother's FB page as a friend/contact. And I do believe the sister and brother's testimony to what EMB told them will indeed be used in court. If that story is true, I'd be finding a good lawyer...pronto. Personally, I think she needs one and will be looking for that in the media in the near future. IMO

As far as her moving out after he was arrested.....her illusion of security was gone...or if she was more involved...the whole house of cards is caving in on her..fast and furiously.

JMO

ETA: If she does decide to agree it was a common law marriage, then she's liable for all his debts too.....nice bill waiting for her from the bar. Whew, expensive hotdog.
 
  • #339
State seeks ruling on murder suspect's marital status

Attorney General Steve Six has asked the court to rule on whether a common law marriage exists between capital murder suspect Adam Longoria and Eva Brown, the woman he was living with at the time of his arrest.

http://www.gbtribune.com/section/1/article/2173/
 
  • #340
State seeks ruling on murder suspect's marital status

Attorney General Steve Six has asked the court to rule on whether a common law marriage exists between capital murder suspect Adam Longoria and Eva Brown, the woman he was living with at the time of his arrest.

http://www.gbtribune.com/section/1/article/2173/

I hope the judge has seen the same articles we have and sees where EB denys being married to him. I would assume thats all it would take. I think the girl is crazy for even thinking about saying she wants to be married to him. I wonder if it is denied if they will end up legally getting married before he goes to court. I would guess this wouldnt be an issue if she wasnt standing by him...seems to be common sense something has to be going on or she would just deny it. IMO
 
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