GUILTY KS - Alicia DeBolt, 14, Great Bend, 21 August 2010 - #3

[hollyblue]

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/102662469.html

Preliminary hearing set for Nov.18
hearing for motions Oct 21

Prosecution has plenty of time to gather all the evidence they need. Have to think LE found plenty of physical or circumstantial evidence to arrest him so fast. Now the nitty gritty forensics to put the hammer to the nail.

Was it ever clarified how she met him? At the park or thru the xbf? Found where the her father's companion is also 31 yrs of age, and was thinking because if it being a small town, she could have known AL's gf in some way. We haven't seen or heard much from her father.

http://www.meaningfulfunerals.net/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=695236&fh_id=10931&s_id=BED6F5D150502B5E057011036E569C5D

 

[anyoldtime48]

http://www.wibw.com/home/headlines/102662469.html

Preliminary hearing set for Nov.18
hearing for motions Oct 21

And for the mildly expanded version of that. Seems there is also a pre hearing before the preliminary hearing, because we can't have enough hearings before this gets to trial. Presumably so AJL's attorneys can file a motion to dismiss on some grounds that will never fly, but they wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't. Or some other motions as I'm sure there is a long list of options that could be filed this early on.

Maybe the SOB will make motion to represent himself? We know he loves to talk, and isn't the brightest candle.

http://hutchnews.com/Latestlocalnews/longoriaprelim

 

[westsidefox64]

And for the mildly expanded version of that. Seems there is also a pre hearing before the preliminary hearing, because we can't have enough hearings before this gets to trial. Presumably so AJL's attorneys can file a motion to dismiss on some grounds that will never fly, but they wouldn't be doing their jobs if they didn't. Or some other motions as I'm sure there is a long list of options that could be filed this early on.

Maybe the SOB will make motion to represent himself? We know he loves to talk, and isn't the brightest candle.

http://hutchnews.com/Latestlocalnews/longoriaprelim

I dont have time to go find the link right now "im searching for a car motor as my car blew a head gasket yesterday" but I read somewhere he has 2 attorneys one who specializes in death penalty cases and someone else, Im not sure if he specializes or not? It would be just like him to fire them both just for the notoriety! IMHO

 

[cathdawg]

AL's Atty's

Longoria is being represented by attorneys with the Kansas Death Penalty Defense Unit, as the murder charge carries a potential death sentence. He appeared in court with attorney Jeff Wicks, although Tim Frieden, former Reno County chief public defender, has also been assigned to represent him.

http://www.hutchnews.com/Todaystop/Longoria-charged-with-murder--2

 

[cathdawg]

Was AL on Alicia's FB or MS? TIA

 

[westsidefox64]

Was AL on Alicia's FB or MS? TIA

As far as I can see NO. FB was made private soon after she went missing MS is very limited from what I see. I know GFs name, middle name and maiden name but not the last name shes been using so Im not sure if shes on either or not. I havent tried his alias names ...But I will

 

[cathdawg]

I found the GF's brother (the one they interviewed ) but no one else.

 

[westsidefox64]

ok i just entered Roy Gilbert Alvarez into the FB search and just came up with a spanish page I dont understand...Help...I think its something im not meant to understand!!!

 

[westsidefox64]

I found the GF's brother (the one they interviewed ) but no one else.

I have an innitial of N hope it helps

 

[cathdawg]

If AL came to town around May 25 th and a lady (neighbor) said he use to live across from Heizer park and use to 'party' with the teens, perhaps this is where he met Alicia. I am assuming the GF lived there as well, they did not move to the current house til Aug 1? so the GF's BD in July, must have been at the house near Heizer Park.

I wonder if the GF met AL through 'kettle of fish' or what have you, scary!

Snippet

A former neighbor of Longoria said he used to live in a house across from Heizer Park. She said he often hung out at the park with young teens, mostly boys. She said the park is a late evening gathering spot for young teens of both sexes.

Read more: http://www.kansas.com/2010/08/27/1465339/authorities-search-house-in-connection.html#ixzz0zGURMb4a

 

[westsidefox64]

If AL came to town around May 25 th and a lady (neighbor) said he use to live across from Heizer park and use to 'party' with the teens, perhaps this is where he met Alicia. I am assuming the GF lived there as well, they did not move to the current house til Aug 1? so the GF's BD in July, must have been at the house near Heizer Park.

I wonder if the GF met AL through 'kettle of fish' or what have you, scary!

Snippet

A former neighbor of Longoria said he used to live in a house across from Heizer Park. She said he often hung out at the park with young teens, mostly boys. She said the park is a late evening gathering spot for young teens of both sexes.

Read more: http://www.kansas.com/2010/08/27/1465339/authorities-search-house-in-connection.html#ixzz0zGURMb4a

I think they met each other at the B_DAY party and thats when they got to know each other...poor girl didnt know enough to run the other direction. Seems to me they met soon after he moved to town. I think from what I read he got out and paroled or was off paper and went directly to the GFs in KS.

 

[wasnt_me]

http://www.meaningfulfunerals.net/fh/obituaries/obituary.cfm?o_id=695236&fh_id=10931&s_id=BED6F5D150502B5E057011036E569C5D

I just want to know if I'm reading the obiturary right.

"Survivors include her father, Richard DeBolt and companion Alethea Ashbaugh, Great Bend; her mother, Tammy Conrad and husband Danny, Great Bend; one sister, Dawn DeBolt and wife Holly and their children Hailee and Gracie Bonham; one brother, Christopher DeBolt; two step-sisters, ..."

The part in bold. Her sister is married to another woman? I was thinking they worded it wrong, because I thought I'd read that her brother was the one who was married, but they don't list him as such. Or maybe it's right. anyone know?

Also, here's an interesting article about Six, who's apparently up for reelection and trailing in the polls.

http://www.kansas.com/2010/09/10/1486230/rsonally-lead-great-bend-case.html

 

[anyoldtime48]

I just want to know if I'm reading the obiturary right.

"Survivors include her father, Richard DeBolt and companion Alethea Ashbaugh, Great Bend; her mother, Tammy Conrad and husband Danny, Great Bend; one sister, Dawn DeBolt and wife Holly and their children Hailee and Gracie Bonham; one brother, Christopher DeBolt; two step-sisters, ..."

The part in bold. Her sister is married to another woman? I was thinking they worded it wrong, because I thought I'd read that her brother was the one who was married, but they don't list him as such. Or maybe it's right. anyone know?

Also, here's an interesting article about Six, who's apparently up for reelection and trailing in the polls.

http://www.kansas.com/2010/09/10/1486230/rsonally-lead-great-bend-case.html

Not worded "wrong" although I haven't bothered to check if same-sex "marriages" are recognized in KS.

Whatever relationship her brother was in apparently ended recently from what I recall people mentioning here, and just became a daddy? Personally I choose to not sleuth her family members beyond what is mentioned in news articles since they are victims in this, although I will never understand a 14 year old being allowed to date 19 year olds and go out with "we don't truly know who" in a vehicle at 11pm. MOO

As for Six, if he can get the job done, go for it. I'm sure he has access to a large crew of the best and brightest. Assuredly is not flying solo. I don't know any more about him that anyone else who first saw and heard him a couple weeks ago, but since this won't go to trial prior to the elections, I'm not sure those blasting him for taking this case on for political reasons have valid reason to. Granted, it will keep him somewhat in the limelight from now until November, but with preliminary hearing not until Nov 18, how much camera time will he really get on this case between now and then?

Those who didn't like him before -- I doubt many of those will change their minds. If they were going to vote for him anyway, unless there is a motion to dismiss that is granted (I will "boldly" go on record and proclaim right now that ain't happenin'!), he has probably garnered as much positive attention from this case as he could hope to get.

Not to suggest whatsoever that is behind why he is prosecuting this himself (or it could be the case), but that is a byproduct, no way around it. For now, he wears the big white hat.

I'm more concerned that this gets done right, whoever prosecutes this case. Rest is fluff. But then again, I don't live in or near Kansas, except in nightmares (that's not a Kansas put down, but reference to nasty bad tornado dream I had last night, and we don't get those here thankfully).

 

[anyoldtime48]

I think they met each other at the B_DAY party and thats when they got to know each other...poor girl didnt know enough to run the other direction. Seems to me they met soon after he moved to town. I think from what I read he got out and paroled or was off paper and went directly to the GFs in KS.

For the record only, he wasn't paroled. Served this last term in full. Had AJL been paroled, you can bet there would have been a TX parole board on the firing line.

TX knew they had a bad one. I wish NC had been more on the ball, in contact with TX prison officials, had him arrested immediately upon release and extradited forthwith to NC.

Unfortunately there are just times when all negative paths cross each other and bad stuff happens. You could name a few things, that had they been done differently, Alicia would be alive and well and leading cheers this weekend. The fates conspired otherwise and allowed this sick SOB to take her from her family and friends, and a little more innocence from those of us who never knew her.

 

[cathdawg]

LOL. I had the hardest time trying to figure out who's who. I think Dawn is Gay and is now married to Holly.

 

[hollyblue]

I just want to know if I'm reading the obiturary right.

"Survivors include her father, Richard DeBolt and companion Alethea Ashbaugh, Great Bend; her mother, Tammy Conrad and husband Danny, Great Bend; one sister, Dawn DeBolt and wife Holly and their children Hailee and Gracie Bonham; one brother, Christopher DeBolt; two step-sisters, ..."

The part in bold. Her sister is married to another woman? I was thinking they worded it wrong, because I thought I'd read that her brother was the one who was married, but they don't list him as such. Or maybe it's right. anyone know?

Also, here's an interesting article about Six, who's apparently up for reelection and trailing in the polls.

http://www.kansas.com/2010/09/10/1486230/rsonally-lead-great-bend-case.html

If you go back to the first thread, and do a search, all the info is there re: Dawn's relationship and the family. I posted the mother's MS page which had the info and many pics of family and Alicia. Dawn's social sites had info too, but don't recall seeing either AL or the gf on AD's social sites. The brother, who I thought may have been the one in the wedding pics at the beginning-- but that's not him. His FB, had some pretty upsetting posts just prior to AD's disappearance. Now, it states he was engaged, but single again...had a lot coming at him... As far as Six, I just hope he pursues and gets justice for AD and her family. I'll leave the local politics to the locals. I've seen it happen in other cases, and the victims and the "case" get blanketed in"yuk".

imo

 

[cathdawg]

We ALL come from some form of Family Dysfunction, as I did , this did not make me a 'Killer' but it did make me vulnerable, I was the last born, and taken advantage of by many, my Mom was 39 yrs old when she had me in 1955, after two other Children 7 and 9 yrs apart. My Father turned out to be an Alcoholic and died when I was 4 yrs. I must say looking back at the age of 55 yrs, this has basically haunted me all my life, My Mom never remarried nor had a live in, however had a BF that did not live at my home that 'came on to me' when I was 13 yrs, told my Mom , who did not believe it, you know same old BS) I look at Alicia's situ and think, my God what was she escaping from, Mom just remarried, youngest Child, so... much to look forward too, however there is always a 'Creep' out there that picks up on this 'sheet', they are there, just waiting......I will never criticize my Mom, but , I was scared and went against her, and if she tried to discipline me, I basically said F.U., I did not think she gave a 'sheet'. Sorry for the emotions.

 

[hollyblue]

There is a comment posted by south texas guy on 8/28 @ 1:12 am, stating he knew AL from the time he was 15. It's a blog, so use your own discretion.

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/24/where-is-alicia-debolt/

 

[anyoldtime48]

There is a comment posted by south texas guy on 8/28 @ 1:12 am, stating he knew AL from the time he was 15. It's a blog, so use your own discretion.

http://nancygrace.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/24/where-is-alicia-debolt/

Personally, there's nothing in there at all that would strike me as unthinkable. We know he's spent his adult life in and out of jail and was in a federal prison (in TX). Know he lies, and "compulsive liar" totally fits the narcissistic tendencies he has exhibited. I would have chosen the term "pathological liar" but that's pretty much the same shoe.

Know he's not the brightest, so IF the bank he robbed (bank robbery MSM confirmed) was across the street from where he lived, I'd buy that line without a second thought. Scary that AJL no doubt truly believes he is smarter than everybody and the world MUST revolve around him and his needs.

Creature ain't wired right. That's about the size of it y'all, and you don't need to be from south TX to recognize it!

 

[wasnt_me]

LOL. I had the hardest time trying to figure out who's who. I think Dawn is Gay and is now married to Holly.

Thanks. I didn't mean to sleuth her family or anything. Just was trying to understand the obit.

Thanks for helping to clear that up.