Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #18 *Arrest*

[flute4peace]

Now this I hadn't thought of. Very good point!

Or a recently dug grave. Like say someone was buried that week or even that month. My daughter stopped by a graveyard few days ago and the mound of dirt from a full year had not sunk down even with ground. This needs to be thought of as well. BTW. I personally thing EG had help. Someone else is as guilty as she is.

 

[flute4peace]

My thinking was to CYA in case a neighbor or someone saw them. Maybe a car drove by as they were leaving etc.

I thought she had lived in Wichita for 3 years? If they were there to do a delivery I can't imagine she would mention them at all to police, unless she did really take a pic of them for some reason and knew LE would find that pic on her phone so had to have some way to explain the pic? Would love to see what she said to JH when she sent the pic to him, if the pic really does exist.

 

[flute4peace]

I was reading an article or something (can't remember what) that had some older pictures of her and she looked so different. Vibrant, healthy, happy, clear eyes. Not saying she didn't have issues then, but it was a remarkable difference. Drugs suck.

Addiction just sounds terrible.
So, let's say EG had an addiction. She had just moved from Andover where she grew up to Witchita. One would expect her supplier to be in Andover, where she grew up and had just moved from. Gets me thinking if the 2 strange people that early morning were people sent to her from her supplier for a delivery. (If the story is even true) Andover is 17.5 miles to Witchita.

 

[hsprinkel]

This is just heart breaking. I am so sorry this was done to you.

That is awful. Gives me chills. I completely agree about the light sentence.

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[n_6CC]

Is it official that she is bipolar and that she has endometriosis?

I see both medical issues tossed around like they are fact- the endometriosis came from a FB comment from EG's father. The bipolar- was it EG's ex that mentioned it?

Can our VI's FindLucasAllen and Paddleboarder confirm that she truly had both of these medical issues?

It just concerns me that we're assuming she has both conditions, which could garner sympathy from people because of so called symptoms she suffers through with the two.

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article208704089.html
In this article it states she was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder.


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[PetDetective]

Snipped for space.

And interesting thing on the 'falls either could be cooking dinner':

There is a blog out there that... analyzes statements. A post had been written based off of the initial article about her interview, and the writer noted that having the full interview would be helpful. So I sent my transcript. Later, a new post came out with full analysis. But it was not done using my transcription, rather one that someone else did. Whoever that was heard things quite differently than I did, and since I read that I have been meaning to give it another listen and see if I had misheard some things.

I heard:
Um, yeah, um, in the past, you know, there's been times he's, been a boy, and um playing with his older brothers, and his cousins, um, he gets bruises, and he has had some falls, um, falls either could be cooking dinner, or at the park, um... (long pause, looking down) Um. I'm sorry, this is really hard on me.

He heard:
Ehm, yes, ehm, in the past, you know, there’s been times he's being a boy and playing with older brothers and his cousins, ehm he gets bruises. He has had some falls… ehm… falls, you know, it could be there or at the porch ehm……. (pause), I’m sorry

Point being - that what I have in the transcript may not be accurate, and as such I would love anyone who has the time to go back and listen to the actual interview along with reading the transcript. I would happily listen to suggestions if anyone hears differently and update where needed.

He is mistaken. You were correct. I just listened to it again. She definitely says cooking dinner and park.


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[kkdj]

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article208704089.html
In this article it states she was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder.


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If I recall EG's ex told them she had been diagnosed with BPD. We don't know if it's true or if she just told him that for some reason. Could CINC who made the report have gotten ahold of her medical records or did her ex have something that proved this?
Don't get me wrong, I think she has some sort of personality disorder. I've wondered about borderline personality disorder which might also include bipolar. She's a scary woman for sure and something's not right. Obviously she understands right from wrong so she won't be able to claim insanity but somethings not right and she has a documented history to prove this.
https://www.nimh.nih.gov/health/topics/borderline-personality-disorder/index.shtml

 

[AFTM]

Is it official that she is bipolar and that she has endometriosis?

I see both medical issues tossed around like they are fact- the endometriosis came from a FB comment from EG's father. The bipolar- was it EG's ex that mentioned it?

Can our VI's FindLucasAllen and Paddleboarder confirm that she truly had both of these medical issues?

It just concerns me that we're assuming she has both conditions, which could garner sympathy from people because of so called symptoms she suffers through with the two.

If she truly had those they would be mitigating circumstances in a court of law. They would have to be proven in there for sure ..


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[n_6CC]

All that I have seen reported is the motion filed by the ex, to have her visitation suspended and a no contact order issued
http://www.kwch.com/video/?vid=475607173


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I’d say that’s a start to the process!


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[AFTM]

She didn’t ‘just move’ from Andover to Wichita. She had been in Wichita for several years at least as reportedly they had lived in the Fox Run apartments for several years.


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Why didn't they live closer to where JH worked. Does anyone know?

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[Gardener1850]

Snipped for space.

And interesting thing on the 'falls either could be cooking dinner':

There is a blog out there that... analyzes statements. A post had been written based off of the initial article about her interview, and the writer noted that having the full interview would be helpful. So I sent my transcript. Later, a new post came out with full analysis. But it was not done using my transcription, rather one that someone else did. Whoever that was heard things quite differently than I did, and since I read that I have been meaning to give it another listen and see if I had misheard some things.

I heard:
Um, yeah, um, in the past, you know, there's been times he's, been a boy, and um playing with his older brothers, and his cousins, um, he gets bruises, and he has had some falls, um, falls either could be cooking dinner, or at the park, um... (long pause, looking down) Um. I'm sorry, this is really hard on me.

He heard:
Ehm, yes, ehm, in the past, you know, there’s been times he's being a boy and playing with older brothers and his cousins, ehm he gets bruises. He has had some falls… ehm… falls, you know, it could be there or at the porch ehm……. (pause), I’m sorry

Point being - that what I have in the transcript may not be accurate, and as such I would love anyone who has the time to go back and listen to the actual interview along with reading the transcript. I would happily listen to suggestions if anyone hears differently and update where needed.

FWIW, I heard her say "cooking dinner" and I have thought that was hinky ever since she said that. For one thing, she said it as if HE was the one cooking dinner when he got hurt. She probably meant to imply he got hurt on his own when she was cooking and not watching him closely. Perhaps she quickly realized that was not a good thing to say so so wanted to stop the interview at that point. I have to wonder, however, if this was a sliver of truth slipping out. She left him alone to go to Dinner at Olive Garden. Maybe he tried to cook his own food while she was gone and either got hurt or made a mess? Maybe she was angry when she got home and found him trying to cook something? Or he succumbed to prior injuries while she was away eating dinner. Somehow the idea of cooking/dinner and Lucas getting hurt is connected in Emily's convoluted mind. JMO. :moo:

 

[kkdj]

All that I have seen reported is the motion filed by the ex, to have her visitation suspended and a no contact order issued
http://www.kwch.com/video/?vid=475607173


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He has a lot to stand on. Those boys need to be protected from her for the rest of their childhood. Imo visitation shouldn't be something they should even have to think about ever again. Their little lives have already been thru so much and because of their mother. Sometimes it's best for a parent to not be allowed any rights at all to their children and this is one of those times. I hope the judge orders termination of rights re EG for the boys, the daughter, and the unborn child. That's the only way they will be safe and be able to live a normal life, unless and until she is found guilty of charges that will put her behind bars for many many years or forever. Depending on if JH is determined to be an appropriate parent should determine his rights. He may be raising 2 kids on his own.

 

[castilloisno1]

Why didn't they live closer to where JH worked. Does anyone know?

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I read here that she had to stay close so that she could still see her two sons.

 

[ScarlettLin]

Why didn't they live closer to where JH worked. Does anyone know?

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That would take some deeper digging.
He worked in oil in TX and NM doing exactly what I’m not sure
In her documents from last October previously linked here, regarding visits with her bio children she stated she was planning to move to CO or NM in the future with JH for health reasons.

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article201898009.html

ETA link and screenshot

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[Paddleboarder]

Is it official that she is bipolar and that she has endometriosis?

I see both medical issues tossed around like they are fact- the endometriosis came from a FB comment from EG's father. The bipolar- was it EG's ex that mentioned it?

Can our VI's FindLucasAllen and Paddleboarder confirm that she truly had both of these medical issues?

It just concerns me that we're assuming she has both conditions, which could garner sympathy from people because of so called symptoms she suffers through with the two.

Jonathan is unaware of any diagnosis related to EG’s mental health, but confirmed that she does have endometriosis and her symptoms are very severe.

 

[Paddleboarder]

What I wonder if it was common practice to leave Lucas at home with both JH and EG. JH was still standing by her after he learned she left Lucas at home alone, so IMO he didn't seem to be upset about the smoking pot or leaving Lucas alone. I noticed that when the school called about Lucas being sick it was EG that went and picked him up even though during that time period JH was in town.

I am also trying to figure out why she would tell JH that JO had Lucas VD when she didn't tell the police that. Is EG who told JH that or could it of been someone else who told him that? Just doesn't make any sense.

Glass told police that Lucas’ mother, Taylor, last saw Lucas in December when the two women “were involved in a physical altercation at Lucas’ school,” the document says. Glass accused Taylor of being a drug addict and said Taylor was not supposed to be around Lucas.
http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article208704089.html

Jonathan didn’t know that Lucas was left alone until the detective told him. He was very angry about it.

 

[Paddleboarder]

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article208704089.html
In this article it states she was diagnosed with bi-polar disorder.


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Jonathan said he was unaware of the diagnosis. That leads me to believe she wasn’t on medication for BPD.

 

[flute4peace]

Thank you, PB, for sharing some answers from JH. I know it's an awkward position for you to be in.

 

[Mistree]

Jonathan said he was unaware of the diagnosis. That leads me to believe she wasn’t on medication for BPD.

Can he or you disclose if she was on meds for her endometriosis?
Maybe marijuana helped her with the pain.....
I’m only hypothesizing because I live in a state where marijuana is legal.

 

[deedee21]

Well, that sentence to me has always been very telling. “Taking a nap, like we always do”. I am sure she did nap when the baby slept-mine always took afternoon naps, just not that late. The key words there are “took a nap like we always do”. Lucas didn’t nap, he was in school during that timeframe usually. She is telling us “he wasn’t there”. He was never involved in their afternoon routine.
Also, learning more about Emily, and her distaste for Lucas, you can be assured, if he were able to go to school, she would have sent him. The nurse brought up questions, and that made her uncomfortable-she tried to send him back, even though it was apparent he was not well. He was sent home, twice I believe. She “lazily” tried to hide bruises by using “kids tattoos”- all the time knowing he would be seen by family!!!
Why did she take him out of school when he had those bruises??? How long was he gone from school? I’d bet he missed more school than kids dream of, because of his bruises. She could always pin it on someone else in others eyes-but the school would have reported LONG ago, had he been in school. The only reason she would keep him out of school, was to hide her abuse. And then probably got pissed at him for having to be home from school!!!
Listen, I love my kids, but I relished the time I could take them to school for a couple hours. ANY parent would want their kid at school, just to sit and catch up!! She has shown us how little she thought of him.
The last time Lucas was seen, was when she was at OG, making phone calls and eating with her daughter-
WHERE IS LUCAS???
What does your gut say people??? Put it out there!!!



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I wonder if the landlord really did see Lucas? Did he assume it was Lucas? Hes throwing the timeline off if hes wrong.
How reliable is he?
People say things that are not true all the time.
For ex. The Kyron Horman case.
Witness claims she saw Kyron leave the school with unknown person.
Thats BS.
These types of individuals screw up cases for LE all the time.