Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #18 *Arrest*

[chihuahua]

Just asked for anyone to come forward to crime stoppers with any info on Lucas.

 

[AFTM]

https://www.facebook.com/WichitaPol...=1524150558265895&notif_t=live_video_explicit

WPD live briefing...we can always hope.

At least they always mention him.


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[chihuahua]

Actually there are times when they don't even mention Lucas

 

[flute4peace]

The head honcho for the state DCF resigned not long ago. I hope they will launch a formal investigation.

It seems that DCF has failed a lot of children recently there. I was reading about it last night. Does anyone think there could be any charges against the people that failed Lucas? Have they fired people that did not do their job in the Evan Brewer case and now we have Lucas?

Just wondering...

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[kkdj]

Just asked for anyone to come forward to crime stoppers with any info on Lucas.

Hoping someone knows something they don't already or to verify what they already have. I think charges will be coming soon of at least endangering and neglecting Lucas too.

 

[kkdj]

Does anyone know if EG's ex is trying to get her rights to her boys terminated?

 

[flute4peace]

We were in enough drought at that time that digging enough for what you're thinking would have been very difficult, if not impossible for a female of her size. Unless she was digging in a recently worked field, but even then I doubt she could have gotten deep enough. It would have taken a very strong man with a very sharp spade (and I'm not entirely ruling that out).

I just thought of something. She was digging in flower bed. Was she really getting all the rocks she could out of flower beds?

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[ScarlettLin]

Does anyone know if EG's ex is trying to get her rights to her boys terminated?

All that I have seen reported is the motion filed by the ex, to have her visitation suspended and a no contact order issued
http://www.kwch.com/video/?vid=475607173


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[ScarlettLin]

I wonder why Lucas wasn't playing? I think it said he stood off to the side. Was he already hurt or sick? Maybe he wasn't allowed..

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He was already sick on 2/11, and had been reportedly suffering with a stomach virus for about a week [emoji17]


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[Sadiebhoff]

It was Valentine’s Day, was she mad at Jonathan? Why the lie at Lucas being with his mom? Was she entering bio-mom into the picture maybe to thwart eyes in JO direction? She was only going to be caught in this lie. Even if she were doing something behind Jonathan’s back, why lie about JO?? This was not very well thought out on her end, so, I’m guessing it wasn’t planned out-That was a careless lie, and could easily be verified. She slipped.
I’m starting to think the only persons opinion she cares about is JH. She will blatantly lie about Lucas seeing his mother on V-day- yet, he is still by her side. He obviously has been so mind @#$%^ by her he believes what she says over LE or anyone else. Surely he is starting to see through the facade.
Let’s hope. MOO

These are my thoughts and pure speculation as to what may have happened.

I think EG was extremely angry to be alone w two small kids on Valentine’s Day. A $15 gift card wasn’t the romantic gift she wanted or felt she deserved. I think her new pregnancy reinforced that belief. She has been described as a narcissist. Narcissists feel entitled, emotionally and intellectually superior to everyone around them. They are also gifted liars. JH didn’t rearrange his work schedule to be with her, so it was his fault she was home alone. She felt was the victim and he didn’t love her enough to make her feel special. I’m sure it was an explosive conversation. One that sent her into a rage. IF meth was added to the equation, realistically a deadly rage. Her lying about LH being with JO likely did come at the spur of the moment, however I don’t think she considered any possible consequences. She didn’t think anyone would doubt her because felt she was smarter than everyone else. She actually believed her own lies.
To explain why I think this, here’s a little backstory. I spend two years in a relationship with a person with NPD. I didn’t realize for some time that he was also doing meth. The lies rolled off his tongue, if questioned he lashed out and I was the guilty party. Usually the first lie would be covered by another lie. It’s a vicious and volatile cycle. One wrong word and in a split second he would explode. I was afraid of him. I learned not to question him in order to keep the peace. If I stood up to him I was told I screwed with the wrong person and threatened and he would do whatever he needed to to ruin my life. He threatened to call my work, my ex-husband, DFS and tell lies that would have caused me major problems. I can’t imagine the hell She out Lucas through. Ultimately, I think she beat him to death during a rage. It makes me sick to actually put these thoughts in writing. I hope EG will eventually tell the truth, but I don’t think she will until she has no one left supporting her.
As long as JH is speaking to her daily, he is completely wrapped up in her lies. He is defending her because that’s what happens when your the victim of NPD abuse. It’s a dangerous dynamic. If you ever come across someone with NPD, run as fast as you can.


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[kkdj]

All that I have seen reported is the motion filed by the ex, to have her visitation suspended and a no contact order issued
http://www.kwch.com/video/?vid=475607173


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Thank you. I've seen this. I just know that if she were a parent of my children I would want the courts to terminate her rights so there would be no advantage given her ever. It's not fair imo for those boys to keep going thru who knows what next!
The father of one of my grandkids actually willingly gave up his rights to two separate children by two different mothers, simply to get out of child support. What a relief as he was dangerous. But the biggest thing is the children didn't have to keep getting pulled in the middle of things and tossed around in different scary environments while waiting for another court date. Long story, and turned out best for the children while they are growing up.

 

[Steelslady]

The combination of BP and those drugs os so interesting to me. Thanks for relaying that. I can’t shake a 2nd person either, I just don’t know how that factors in yet. I’m still racking my brain!! MOO


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Is it official that she is bipolar and that she has endometriosis?

I see both medical issues tossed around like they are fact- the endometriosis came from a FB comment from EG's father. The bipolar- was it EG's ex that mentioned it?

Can our VI's FindLucasAllen and Paddleboarder confirm that she truly had both of these medical issues?

It just concerns me that we're assuming she has both conditions, which could garner sympathy from people because of so called symptoms she suffers through with the two.

 

[ScarlettLin]

Thank you. I've seen this. I just know that if she were a parent of my children I would want the courts to terminate her rights so there would be no advantage given her ever. It's not fair imo for those boys to keep going thru who knows what next!
The father of one of my grandkids actually willingly gave up his rights to two separate children by two different mothers, simply to get out of child support. What a relief as he was dangerous. But the biggest thing is the children didn't have to keep getting pulled in the middle of things and tossed around in different scary environments while waiting for another court date. Long story, and turned out best for the children while they are growing up.

If I had to guess I would say the ex is taking the steps to get to that end point of terminating rights. And being smart about it by getting everything documented via the court
But that’s JMO


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[Steelslady]

I realize that but families have to consider what can happen if they agree and let that person off on a lighter sentence. Do you realize how many repeat offenders there are in prison. The man who murdered my sister was out 9 days. He was stalking us for those days. He was a predator. He murdered my sister on the 9th day. He had two graves dug ahead of time. One was for me. It was a stark realization for me.

I would hate to see another child harmed.

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OMG, I am so sorry you and your sister went through this! How awful he had dug two graves- obviously this was premeditated. I can't imagine how you feel, how scary that is to know such a monster planned something so devious. May your sister rest in peace. Strength and peace to you as well. My heart just aches for you and your family. You are one courageous person sharing your story on here. :hug:

 

[Kadoober]

Sorry guys, it's time for another Kadoober off the wall clump of ideas.

Sometimes weird little details get stuck in my head and I don't know why and then some small idea starts forming around it - and here is one of those:

When the OG story first came out, and it came out that she went there because JH had gotten her a $10 gift card to OG for Vday I thought 'what the heck is she going to do with that?'
I mean, it's possible you can get soup and salad for one for $10 bucks, but she has no income of her own and has two kids to care for, right?

Maybe JH only had $10 to offer, and something was better than nothing. I don't know. Maybe he thought she'd take 'someone else' and he didn't want to finance that. Doesn't matter - what I would be interested in is EG's reaction to receiving a $10 gift card to a restaurant where a meal for 3, even if two are small, would be a good deal more than $10.

Was she pissed? Did they fight about that? Did she leave Lucas home because Dad didn't send her enough to cover his meal?

 

[Kuyluc2764]

If she was going through withdrawals from heroin, she would have been "dope sick" extremely fatigued, body aches, irritability, nausea and diarrhea. She certainly wouldn't be cleaning and would be unable to care for the kids. Her cravings for the drug would override any other need or responsibility.

I know there's been discussion about a drug run at OG. What would throw her into an uncontrollable despair would be an expected delivery which didn't go through. An addict waiting on the drug of choice, especially in the agony of withdrawal, would freak if the drug deal fell through at the last minute.

I agree about the withdraws. My dad is a heroin addict and I have witnessed his withdraws many times. Sometimes when he was going through withdraws he could not handle it and resorted to heavy drinking to cope with it. I can not tell you how thankful I was when we finally got a methadone clinic here. But during withdraws he would become very angry and very violent. He would break windows out, throw things, scream at everyone... it was horrible to deal with. He is better now but being in methadone he sleeps alot. I do not know for sure if Emily was on any other drug then marijuana. All I can say that it is IMO that she was on something far harder than marijuana and that may very well have contributed to what happened to Lucas.

 

[Kivalina]

We were in enough drought at that time that digging enough for what you're thinking would have been very difficult, if not impossible for a female of her size. Unless she was digging in a recently worked field, but even then I doubt she could have gotten deep enough. It would have taken a very strong man with a very sharp spade (and I'm not entirely ruling that out).

Or a recently dug grave. Like say someone was buried that week or even that month. My daughter stopped by a graveyard few days ago and the mound of dirt from a full year had not sunk down even with ground. This needs to be thought of as well. BTW. I personally thing EG had help. Someone else is as guilty as she is.

 

[chihuahua]

I agree about the withdraws. My dad is a heroin addict and I have witnessed his withdraws many times. Sometimes when he was going through withdraws he could not handle it and resorted to heavy drinking to cope with it. I can not tell you how thankful I was when we finally got a methadone clinic here. But during withdraws he would become very angry and very violent. He would break windows out, throw things, scream at everyone... it was horrible to deal with. He is better now but being in methadone he sleeps alot. I do not know for sure if Emily was on any other drug then marijuana. All I can say that it is IMO that she was on something far harder than marijuana and that may very well have contributed to what happened to Lucas.

Your computer wasn't telling you to shutup at all.
Sorry for the pain but I am so glad for the methadone clinics.
They're certainly the better of two very difficult choices in life.
Peace and blessings,
Chi

 

[chihuahua]

Or a recently dug grave. Like say someone was buried that week or even that month. My daughter stopped by a graveyard few days ago and the mound of dirt from a full year had not sunk down even with ground. This needs to be thought of as well. BTW. I personally thing EG had help. Someone else is as guilty as she is.

It has sadly been done before.
just saying...

 

[Busylady]

DCF only received two reports before lucas went missing (two should of been enough) and they were closed unfounded.

The additional reports came after Lucas went missing - the nurse IMO should of reported it even though she had a note from dr saying was from a fall.

May 16, 2017: DCF, the Kansas child protection agency, received the first of two reports of suspected abuse involving Lucas. Glass and an “unknown perpetrator” were suspected. The boy reportedly had bruising in the shape of a hand on his left arm, bruising on his left cheek and on his bottom.

http://www.kansas.com/news/local/crime/article208704089.html