Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #7 *Arrest*

[AgeofAquaruis]

Thank you Tim. God Speed be with you.

 

[Kamm5]

Iam very concerned on how LE handled the tip she called in.. are they responding to tips

 

[momrids6]

Is there anyone who is starting to second guess their original feelings on step mom being behind his disappearance? I’m just curious.


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I am way behind... but nope!

 

[AmyPond]

My gut says Lucas is farther away than TES is searching, and why EG is so smug.

Having said that, who moved all of their heavy furniture from house 1 to house 2?

Are there storage units (facilities) that could be housing any of their stuff, or even little Lucas?

That is my fear. He could be anywhere from here to Texas and it scares me that he may never be found like poor little Deorr.

 

[kmartin96]

I think if anyone else had been involved that EG would likely have waited a few days to configure scenarios where she could put as much blame on them as possible, and then told that story to LE, presenting herself as a hard-done-by second victim who's absolutely heartbroken but was coerced by someone else.

If LE say there's no evidence of abduction or Lucas walking out by himself and going missing, then that points to the house, and that points to EG. (BBM)

I am really hoping the addition of Texas Equusearch will lead to a find this weekend. Families shouldn't have to wait this long. The thaw won't be good for preservation of evidence. I don't like to think of that sweet little boy out there and not brought home to his family.

I totally agree with your statement..... Yes, if there was any other "real" person to blame, EG would have already thrown them under the bus (not going down alone).....

My worry is that from the get-go, it was stated there was no evidence of abduction, or even of Lucus walking out......so theoretically, no investigative resources have really been expended to try and locate an alternative perpetrator. KWIM? Tons of effort to try and locate Lucas thankfully....but myself and others have really noticed the lack of extensive evidence collection at the home, towing of vehicles, etc. As you said, if it all points to the house and all points to EG...wouldn't there have been much more CSI presence and evidence being taken out? Even the stealthiest of PD's are typically shown by media traipsing in and out.

So, again, the worry is that they DON'T have the evidence they need:
-or EG would at LEAST still have the endangerment charge for Lucas against her
-a defense attorney might have a case against investigators for focusing just on EG (ie. they pre-concluded it was her.....and never really sought other perps. They have not asked the public to help identify any other vehicles, persons, images on video, etc).

I think this could be a problem. IMO.....thoughts?

 

[chihuahua]

Sending all my love, hope and prayers to Lucas, his family and loved ones and TES and all searchers:heartbeat:

 

[nannymo]

http://www.texasequusearch.org/about/how-when-and-why-we-search/ BBM

I have heard before in other cases, TES usually does not come in to search unless they have a specific place to look for the missing person. Go read their how-when-and-why-we search. I think there may be an area LE is particularly interested in and that is why TES came in at this point. Hoping for a miracle today.

From the Texas Equusearch above link:

HOW LONG WILL WE SEARCH
as long as we have a reasonable expectation, or a good reason to believe that the missing person would be found during a continued search of that specific area.

 

[Jo in Calif]

I totally agree with your statement..... Yes, if there was any other "real" person to blame, EG would have already thrown them under the bus (not going down alone).....

My worry is that from the get-go, it was stated there was no evidence of abduction, or even of Lucus walking out......so theoretically, no investigative resources have really been expended to try and locate an alternative perpetrator. KWIM? Tons of effort to try and locate Lucas thankfully....but myself and others have really noticed the lack of extensive evidence collection at the home, towing of vehicles, etc. As you said, if it all points to the house and all points to EG...wouldn't there have been much more CSI presence and evidence being taken out? Even the stealthiest of PD's are typically shown by media traipsing in and out.

So, again, the worry is that they DON'T have the evidence they need:
-or EG would at LEAST still have the endangerment charge for Lucas against her
-a defense attorney might have a case against investigators for focusing just on EG (ie. they pre-concluded it was her.....and never really sought other perps. They have not asked the public to help identify any other vehicles, persons, images on video, etc).

I think this could be a problem. IMO.....thoughts?

As far as the endangerment charge goes, they don't want to charge her for endangerment and take the chance of that going to trial and a conviction on that and later find his body and not be able to take her in on that. The double jeopardy law would then come into play. That charge is still sitting there and, IMO will be included with many other charges if they can find his body.
It is very apparent, IMO, that LE is pretty convinced that she is responsible for the disappearance of Lucas.

 

[motheroffour]

Yes...please provide it..,,but there is a logistics issue with this tip that can quickly resolve it. Kansas and I can not determine an efficient way around the cameras. LE would easily be able to find a pic to resolve identity....or exclude I should say.

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So the way the cameras work at the toll booth where I work, at the southern terminal, is there is only a picture taken if you go thru the ktag lane. If you go thru a pay lane there is no camera. Now on entry they have cameras as you enter. My thinking is if she wasn’t in her car, (which the person that went thru my lane wasn’t in a white suv) there isn’t going to be a record of her license being snapped. Also I think we are giving her too much credit for knowing about camera placement everywhere. If someone has committed a crime they are running on instinct and adrenaline. In Jonathan Fosters case Mona Nelson was undone by a camera on the back of a building in an industrial part of town that caught her image dumping his body in a drainage ditch. Hoping still that’s not Lucas’s fate.

 

[bluevioletfour]

Good luck searchers today!!!

FIND LUCAS

It is beautiful here in Kansas today. I'm hoping this great weather will assist Tim Miller and his fabulous searchers today and enable them to find Lucas!

 

[CANADIANCRIMESLEUTH]

Sitting from afar (Canada) and taking it all in, I feel this was all drug related. <modsnip> Was this the debt they owed for L? If &#8220;dealers&#8221; took LH, then perhaps EG is staying quiet out of fear of retaliation if she was to say anything to LE. I don&#8217;t think that &#8220;big dealers&#8221; are going to play with ransom notes and LE. This could explain her denial of involvement, and knowledge of where L is. As far as whether little L is alive or where he is, I cannot even guess. I know that I want to hug him and tell him that life isn&#8217;t so terrible when you are loved! He is now loved by so many!

 

[Henry2326]

So the way the cameras work at the toll booth where I work, at the southern terminal, is there is only a picture taken if you go thru the ktag lane. If you go thru a pay lane there is no camera. Now on entry they have cameras as you enter. My thinking is if she wasn’t in her car, (which the person that went thru my lane wasn’t in a white suv) there isn’t going to be a record of her license being snapped. Also I think we are giving her too much credit for knowing about camera placement everywhere. If someone has committed a crime they are running on instinct and adrenaline. In Jonathan Fosters case Mona Nelson was undone by a camera on the back of a building in an industrial part of town that caught her image dumping his body in a drainage ditch. Hoping still that’s not Lucas’s fate.

Good to know...thank you.

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[kkdj]

Bingo. She may very well have dyed her hair at a rest stop shower.
Unless the 35 miles were too out of her way liking.

BBM
Funny you should say this. I was thinking the same thing. A couple of years ago I was in a laughlin hotel lounge, decided to go to the bathroom, which one enters and exits from outdoors. Lo and behold there was a woman in there rinsing the dye out of her hair at the sink! I asked her if she was ok and she told me it was ok for me to use the restroom. I didn't and left immediately. I thought it was so odd that she would be dying her hair in a public restroom!
Scared me enough that I knew I wasn't going to get caught with my pants down!:scared::hills::chicken:

 

[enw10110]

So the way the cameras work at the toll booth where I work, at the southern terminal, is there is only a picture taken if you go thru the ktag lane. If you go thru a pay lane there is no camera. Now on entry they have cameras as you enter. My thinking is if she wasn&#8217;t in her car, (which the person that went thru my lane wasn&#8217;t in a white suv) there isn&#8217;t going to be a record of her license being snapped. Also I think we are giving her too much credit for knowing about camera placement everywhere. If someone has committed a crime they are running on instinct and adrenaline. In Jonathan Fosters case Mona Nelson was undone by a camera on the back of a building in an industrial part of town that caught her image dumping his body in a drainage ditch. Hoping still that&#8217;s not Lucas&#8217;s fate.

I agree... I have no idea where the cameras are around my city.

I also agree that you should call in the tip again. I thought of this tip as soon as I saw that her hair was darker. (And, there's a theory going around SM that this fits eerily well.)

 

[Busylady]

In the three different pictures, mugshot, court video appearance, and interview her hair looks a different color each time.

 

[Truman]

BBM
Funny you should say this. I was thinking the same thing. A couple of years ago I was in a laughlin hotel lounge, decided to go to the bathroom, which one enters and exits from outdoors. Lo and behold there was a woman in there rinsing the dye out of her hair at the sink! I asked her if she was ok and she told me it was ok for me to use the restroom. I didn't and left immediately. I thought it was so odd that she would be dying her hair in a public restroom!
Scared me enough that I knew I wasn't going to get caught with my pants down!:scared::hills::chicken:

Way O/T...I chuckled out loud at your story because of course it occurred in Laughlin! It's a town perpetually packed with a crazy cast of characters! [emoji1]

 

[chihuahua]

Years ago my now deceased husband was a longhaul trucker. I've showered in more truckstop showers than I can count. You learn which ones are safe to stop at.
Miss that kind of gypsy lifestyle at times
It's usually less than $10 and usually free if you're fueling a truck.
jmo

 

[margarita25]

"According to their web site, Texas EquuSearch started in August 2000 with the purpose to provide Volunteer Horse Mounted Search and Recovery for Lost and Missing persons. The Team was started in the North Galveston County area because of the high incidence of missing persons in the largely undeveloped area of South Harris and North Galveston Counties. With this in mind, the team&#8217;s existence and purpose is dedicated to the memory of Laura Miller, the daughter of our founding director, Tim Miller. Laura was abducted and murdered in north Galveston County in 1984. Our team is composed of volunteers of various experiences, with many being experienced horse owners."


Texas horse-mounted volunteers will search for missing Kan. boy
https://www.hayspost.com/2018/03/03/texas-horse-volunteers-will-search-for-missing-kan-boy/

 

[Amonet]

I totally agree with your statement..... Yes, if there was any other "real" person to blame, EG would have already thrown them under the bus (not going down alone).....

My worry is that from the get-go, it was stated there was no evidence of abduction, or even of Lucus walking out......so theoretically, no investigative resources have really been expended to try and locate an alternative perpetrator. KWIM? Tons of effort to try and locate Lucas thankfully....but myself and others have really noticed the lack of extensive evidence collection at the home, towing of vehicles, etc. As you said, if it all points to the house and all points to EG...wouldn't there have been much more CSI presence and evidence being taken out? Even the stealthiest of PD's are typically shown by media traipsing in and out.

So, again, the worry is that they DON'T have the evidence they need:
-or EG would at LEAST still have the endangerment charge for Lucas against her
-a defense attorney might have a case against investigators for focusing just on EG (ie. they pre-concluded it was her.....and never really sought other perps. They have not asked the public to help identify any other vehicles, persons, images on video, etc).

I think this could be a problem. IMO.....thoughts?

I don't know. Yes, when you put it that way it does bother me. I guess I'm just hoping that LE do have an evidentiary reason to be saying what they are, to be holding EG, and for not putting out any sign they might be considering anyone else?

Could LE have asked media to not film evidence collection from the house because they don't want to jeopardize a future trial? When JH and JO did their joint interview they had made it clear to the media organization that some topics were off limit. Surely they would have been led by LE in making that request?

If LE have camera footage from another house in the street that covers EG's house and there's no sign of Lucas between 3pm and 6pm, no sign of anyone else going up to the house, then in that sense a lack of evidence could be seen as evidence against EG...at least inasmuch as telling the truth about the timeline? And if EG is lying about the timeline, then what else could she be lying about?

 

[Truman]

"According to their web site, Texas EquuSearch started in August 2000 with the purpose to provide Volunteer Horse Mounted Search and Recovery for Lost and Missing persons. The Team was started in the North Galveston County area because of the high incidence of missing persons in the largely undeveloped area of South Harris and North Galveston Counties. With this in mind, the team’s existence and purpose is dedicated to the memory of Laura Miller, the daughter of our founding director, Tim Miller. Laura was abducted and murdered in north Galveston County in 1984. Our team is composed of volunteers of various experiences, with many being experienced horse owners."


Texas horse-mounted volunteers will search for missing Kan. boy
https://www.hayspost.com/2018/03/03/texas-horse-volunteers-will-search-for-missing-kan-boy/

What a great organization, very hopeful that TES will find Lucas.

They've not been involved in any of the cases I've followed over the years...can anybody point me to cases you've followed here on WS where TES has been integral?