Found Deceased KS - Lucas Hernandez, 5, Wichita, 17 Feb 2018 #7 *Arrest*

[enw10110]

According to this interview, the neighbor saw her smoking with a white man a few days before he saw Lucas. They saw Lucas Sunday the 11th, and they moved in Wednesday the 7th.
EG said that the smokers in front of the house were a white woman and a black man 2 days before Lucas went missing (so, the 15th).

ETA the link to the interview: http://www.kansas.com/news/local/article201763589.html

 

[Paddleboarder]

Missing Pieces Network is an approved source as far as our family is concerned. The person who runs it has been wonderful!

Thank you for the kind words, FLA.


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[MissMalowe]

So her story or her possible theory is that the same mysterious/sketchy black man / white woman she saw early in the morning a few days prior returned to her home on the 17th and it happened to be during the 3-6pm timeframe that she was asleep?

That is an unbelievably amazing stroke of good luck for the "sketchy, mysterious couple"

 

[sleuther0192837465]

According to this interview, the neighbor saw her smoking with a white man a few days before he saw Lucas. They saw Lucas Sunday the 11th, and they moved in Wednesday the 7th.
EG said that the smokers in front of the house were a white woman and a black man 2 days before Lucas went missing (so, the 15th).

ETA the link to the interview: http://www.kansas.com/news/local/article201763589.html

Thank you! I read the article & his description of the smoking man was not written in there, it is however, in the video of his interview.


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[cryscrys]

LE already verified that the photo exists and that they were given the photo, it was in a news article posted in the last thread.

On this topic of the strange couple and EG's seemingly contradictory statement that she offered them a place to sit if they needed while simultaneously thinking they were shady. IF this event occurred (which I have my doubts) I can see how her mind-set would have worked. You see two strangers in front of your home and at first you think they may need help so you ask, they say they are fine but something about them seems off, perhaps sinister, in a split second you ask yourself "if they are ok, why are they standing in front of my house in the early morning?" you suddenly feel suspicious of these people, what are they up to, you ask yourself. After lingering in front of your home for a little too long you decide to snap a quick photo as they walk away and send it to your BF, maybe he knows who these people are, maybe he's seen them around.

That is possible OR this snap that was sent was a precursor for things to come because of things that already happened. JMO

 

[margarita25]

Missing Pieces Network are here on sleuths. I will try to reach them.

Yes, iirc LisaWLTR...

(Eta: And of course our fabulous dearly departed Los :heartbeat: )

 

[totesmagoat]

The picture was obviously staged. So it was 2 days before he disappeared. He was probably already gone at that point, and she was trying to build her story. Think about it... besides the fact that no one would just randomly go out and ask "Do you want to come inside?" (MAYBE 'do you want to use my phone?', but come inside? seriously?), she said they stayed out there for 15-20 minutes after she asked, then she took a picture of them walking away. Why didn't she take the picture in the 15-20 minutes they were standing there? Probably because she took a picture of a random couple as they were walking down her street and made the rest up.

I would be watching them through the curtains. Maybe, after a certain amount of time, I might ask if they need something or for me to call someone for them. I would never invite them into my home or even come out of my house while this conversation was happening. More likely though, I would call the police and ask them to drive by my house.


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[margarita25]

12 days, sad.
http://www.kake.com/story/37609448/search-for-5-year-old-lucas-hernandez-enters-12th-day

Also linked at the above article:

K9 search team offers insight into missing persons cases
Posted: Feb 28, 2018 9:25 PM MST
http://www.kake.com/story/37619205/k9-search-team-offers-insight-into-missing-persons-cases

 

[cvaldez1975]

that's exactly my question. what is the reason she chose THAT TIME to report him missing? I mused this a few threads back. there is some reason in her mind why that was when she was going to report it.

Lucas could have been gone any time between when the neighbors saw him outside with their kids up until 6:00 pm on February 17. That's the time gap we need to fill. Does anyone want to create a detailed timeline beginning on the day and time EG and the kids went to play at the neighbors to the present?

I'm really considering why was little Lucas called in as missing on that day, and that time. Dad was working out of town, as we know. When was he SCHEDULED to return home? Do we know? That answer may have something to do with WHEN she called him in as missing.

 

[Gardener1850]

Thread 7 already? :tantrum: Where are you Lucas? (I need to go catch up now)

 

[margarita25]

Here’s my question.. When is the last time you took a 3 hour nap in the middle of the afternoon as an adult?


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(Coughs and raises hand, but I have an odd schedule...I'm often on the night shift here and have been known to pull all nighters...

I don't have small kids though..)

 

[Mamabearto2boys]

While she did give more details regarding her version of the last she saw Lucas (the movie, taking a shower then seeing him sleeping, then taking a nap), I don’t necessarily think that this means there’s inconsistencies in what she said in the interview and what she told police originally. Just because the police didn’t state all the other details to the public doesn’t mean she didn’t give those details to them. You can bet that investigators are closely reviewing the interview for inconsistencies though. Same thing regarding her description of the 2 people she states that she saw and the neighbor’s account of seeing her smoking with “an unidentified man.” I’ve never seen reported anywhere any further description of the man she was smoking with. I believe all of these extra details were intentionally withheld by the police.

I found much of her interview very interesting, especially the part where she said she wants to tell “her side of the story” but she’s “not there yet.” What side? Exactly what part of the story is she withholding...and WHY? And why isn’t she “there yet?” What does that even mean??? The most revealing thing to me though was when she was asked if she hurt Lucas, she said “I did not, I would never hurt my son.” IMO, someone innocent of an accusation like that would answer that question with an immediate and resounding “No!”

All just MO

 

[raeann]

The story about asking these "strangers" if they were stranded or needed help makes NO SENSE logistically because she obviously knew that there were open public businesses along Kellogg a block and a half away from her house.....warm places to get inside, and places to call for help if it was needed. There is a city bus route that runs two blocks south of the house along Lincoln and another one two blocks north of the house coming down Edgemoor and also making a turnaround after stopping on the VA Hospital grounds. They could have been waiting and talking as they watched their own kids till the school bus made its stop as MANY parents go outside their homes to do. They could be neighbors who happened to pass each other on a morning walk and stopped to visit for a bit. Of course they all would be strangers---as the family had just moved into the neighborhood.

 

[4SAM]

Confused...is there a picture somewhere of the two people walking away?

 

[MsFacetious]

Here’s my question.. When is the last time you took a 3 hour nap in the middle of the afternoon as an adult?

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The last time I did an illegal drug. :thinking:
(Never.)

That is possible OR this snap that was sent was a precursor for things to come because of things that already happened. JMO

Did she say it was a snapCHAT she sent? Or that she "snapped a picture."
I thought she said she snapped a picture, but wondered if I might have missed something.
If I said that it would not be referring to snapchat. So just wondering.

 

[MsFacetious]

It must have been a long time since Lucas saw a doctor if they still don't have a height or weight on him.
All they'd have to do is get those records, should have been done by now.

 

[Zelda1010]

The story about asking these "strangers" if they were stranded or needed help makes NO SENSE logistically because she obviously knew that there were open public businesses along Kellogg a block and a half away from her house.....warm places to get inside, and places to call for help if it was needed. There is a city bus route that runs two blocks south of the house along Lincoln and another one two blocks north of the house coming down Edgemoor and also making a turnaround after stopping on the VA Hospital grounds. They could have been waiting and talking as they watched their own kids till the school bus made its stop as MANY parents go outside their homes to do. They could be neighbors who happened to pass each other on a morning walk and stopped to visit for a bit. Of course they all would be strangers---as the family had just moved into the neighborhood.

Maybe she's worried someone saw her talking to these two people. Maybe she thought they'd be a hook-up in the new neighborhood and they rebuffed her but she sent a cryptic message to her significant other to share this interesting and useful sighting?

 

[cvaldez1975]

YASSSSSSS exactly

The picture was obviously staged. So it was 2 days before he disappeared. He was probably already gone at that point, and she was trying to build her story. Think about it... besides the fact that no one would just randomly go out and ask "Do you want to come inside?" (MAYBE 'do you want to use my phone?', but come inside? seriously?), she said they stayed out there for 15-20 minutes after she asked, then she took a picture of them walking away. Why didn't she take the picture in the 15-20 minutes they were standing there? Probably because she took a picture of a random couple as they were walking down her street and made the rest up.

 

[Mamabearto2boys]

The last time I did an illegal drug. :thinking:
(Never.)




Did she say it was a snapCHAT she sent? Or that she "snapped a picture."
I thought she said she snapped a picture, but wondered if I might have missed something.
If I said that it would not be referring to snapchat. So just wondering.

You are correct that she said she “snapped a picture” but for a 26 year old, the term “snapped” means sent a picture via Snapchat, as opposed to “took a picture” like most 35+ year olds would would say (generalizing an age range here, but this is my observation from my personal experience with tweens, teens, and 20 somethings).

 

[margarita25]

You are correct that she said she “snapped a picture” but for a 26 year old, the term “snapped” means sent a picture via Snapchat, as opposed to “took a picture” like most 35+ year olds would would say (generalizing an age range here, but this is my observation from my personal experience with tweens, teens, and 20 somethings).

(Thanks for clarifying modern lingo, I had to look up what "friendzoned" meant the other day...I feel so old...

O/T : "In popular culture, the friend zone is a situation in which one member of a friendship wishes to enter into a romantic or sexual relationship, while the other does not."*Wikipedia)