Kyron's parents' statements, interviews

[angelainwi]

So did one to one interviews happen this afternoon and will we be seeing them anytime soon??

 

[Billylee]

Yes, it does ALLEGE that she is involved, because it says that KH believes she is. (Point 3 of the petition - http://www.koinlocal6.com/media/lib/107/e/1/2/e12f2287-ce0b-48e0-8d85-e3955216ae1b/FULLORDER.pdf)

Thanks for that. So LE has given him probable cause to believe that TH is involved in Kyron's disappearance and that TH hired someone to murder him. Hmmmm, I sure hope LE is right, for their own sake, or they are gonna need a bigger budget.

I was wondering how and why a first secretive restraining order decidedly became public information spread across the media. I wonder whose idea it was to release it? Kaine's own attorney refers to the need to keep the matter private. Just curious, anyone know how or why that decision came down?

 

[kai]

This case is so strange.

Sometimes I feel there is a big "Elephant in the Living Room" that all the rest of them are sort of talking around...only we don't know what it is....but they sure do.

I feel there is a huge SOMETHING being held back...that's why the parents believe he's "stashed."

I can't explain it...anyone else sense this?

I get that same feeling also from time to time and then the little "maybe there is some kind of a ransom" theory bounces into my head. Way back when Kaine & Desiree started to have press conferences there were some things said and done that to me seemed so bizarre that even a few of us here thought they could be "code" for someone who had Kyron and was pulling their puppet strings.

 

[TxLady2]

I don't know how to say this without getting deleted but I'll give it a go.

I believe Kyron may be alive. I believe he may have been kidnapped and held for ransom. This seemed absolutely far fetched to me in the beginning with Terri being involved but I don't believe she is and I think acquaintances may have kidnapped Kryon and it could well have been the baby that was kidnapped! Kyron must have been more accessible. Terri knows these acquaintances and that they are dangerous and that explains why DeDe felt Terri and she were truly in danger in the house.

Except... there has been no demand for ransom.
I do agree that Kyron could have been kidnapped by someone other than Terri, but if that is true, I fear he is no longer alive.

 

[Billylee]

Yes, I understand.

We are both speculating...you that Terri might have hidden Kyron with "someone who loves him" and me...that if she did hide Kyron (with ANYBODY) due to anything that made her angry with Kaine (the original supposition) ...IMO that would be "taking" her fury out on a little boy instead of her husband.

Nothing Kaine might have done to Terri could justify removing Kyron from his family, friends, his life.

My opinion only.

I agree 101%! NEVER, EVER, should a child be used as a pawn in any adult relationship matters. This kind of carp happens all the time, not in this big of a way perhaps, but I have my own friends who've done small things by manipulating their children to "get back at" their ex-spouses and even THAT really ticks me off! Leave the children out of it!!!

What I was referring to was that she could have hidden him for what she deems his own safety. Nothing to do with "getting even" with someone, but "everything to do with keeping Kyron" and "keeping him safe".

Now, I have no idea if she's done that, but I also have no idea that she used Kyron in any way shape or form to get even with Kaine or Diseree or anyone else. That's all I'm saying.

Heck I have no idea if she's even involved, but one little email, tells me she most likely is

 

[angelmom]

To me...that's no murder for hire plot. As you say, you're speaking your emotional mind.

But if this conversation should be repeated over and over (hundreds of times like the sexting with Kaine's friend) and if there is some kind of inducement...money, sex, both?...then, it changes for me.

If the conversation goes on and on and on...with how it could be done, where, why...if there is repeated attempts to convince the Landscaper to participate...then Terri has big trouble on her hands.

I think if there were texts or emails with any of that in writing, Terri would be in jail right now. It's one thing in the first few days to hope she'll lead them to Kyron, but after 12 weeks it's time to get serious. I don't think they have any cause to arrest her at all. If they did, they would, b/c jail would be a real eye opener.

 

[sherbetjello]

Why do you think she wanted to emphasize that it was not a LE approved statement?

I think LE pushed her to make that statement.
I also think that she made that statement on her own because LE hasn't gotten anywhere.

*head spins*

Frustrating.

 

[Billylee]

No one - and I mean no one - who keeps a child from his parents who love him, his life, his friends, his school, and all he is familiar with, and all that he needs, loves him.

If a child is in eminent danger in a situation, I can see how one would remove them to a "safe place" until all threats of danger were removed. That is what I'm referring to guys.

 

[Openmyeyes]

http://portlandtribune.com/news/story_2nd.php?story_id=128293469651541900

In late June, Kaine filed for divorce, citing among other things an alleged plot to kill him that investigators said was discussed by Terri Horman and a landscaper. The plot never went beyond talk, investigators said.


Holy carp, that's the only time I've seen that actually admitted. So what? the landscaper and TH were foolin' around and she said something like gee, I can't stand my husband anymore, I'd give a million bucks of he were dead, and the ls says want me to do it? Good grief, I hope they have more than something like that for opening up this can of worms!

bolded parts:waitasec:

 

[Openmyeyes]

Then why didn't Terri challenge the restraining order???

I'm just asking; not trying to be argumentative. I just can't imagine any reason why she would not challenge it except that the "talk" was pretty serious, ...and/or maybe could even shed some light somehow on the later disappearance of Kyron. Just speculating.

Perhaps it was just pillowtalk and it was LE's way to divide them. My question is why doesn't anyone ever challenge Kaine? Not trying to be snarky, but Desiree didn't challenge him when it came to keeping Kyron after her illness.....it just doesn't sit well with me, right now.

 

[gitana1]

http://portlandtribune.com/news/story_2nd.php?story_id=128293469651541900

In late June, Kaine filed for divorce, citing among other things an alleged plot to kill him that investigators said was discussed by Terri Horman and a landscaper. The plot never went beyond talk, investigators said.


Holy carp, that's the only time I've seen that actually admitted. So what? the landscaper and TH were foolin' around and she said something like gee, I can't stand my husband anymore, I'd give a million bucks of he were dead, and the ls says want me to do it? Good grief, I hope they have more than something like that for opening up this can of worms!

Okay. Now we have the answer to that. I guess I missed it or forgot. I have been posting recently that I did not think the MFH was the meat of the case against TH. I felt there was likely not enough evidence for it. Perhaps I read this quote and filed it away in my subconscious! So, basically, the deal is that if this report is true, there is not and never has been enough evidence to charge TH with a MFH plot and there never will be.
Thanks, Billylee!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[grandmaj]

Thanks for that. So LE has given him probable cause to believe that TH is involved in Kyron's disappearance and that TH hired someone to murder him. Hmmmm, I sure hope LE is right, for their own sake, or they are gonna need a bigger budget.

I was wondering how and why a first secretive restraining order decidedly became public information spread across the media. I wonder whose idea it was to release it? Kaine's own attorney refers to the need to keep the matter private. Just curious, anyone know how or why that decision came down?

The reason the restraining order became public is because someone leaked it to the media. So the purpose of the secretive part, about the MFH became public by virtue of the leak. Therefore there was no further need to maintain the seal. MOO

 

[Chili Fries]

Has anyone posted the KATU video? They have part 1 available. I'm watching it now and it is interesting.

http://www.katu.com/home/video/101689553.html

 

[Chili Fries]

They say that LE has not been giving them info lately, the flow of info to them has slowed down. Desiree says that LE only gives them the info they need but don't won't to give them false hope, or make them have to lie...it's a critical time for the investigation. They've been a little more tight-lipped. The belief that Kyron is still alive doesn't come from LE info, but from a belief Desiree has inside of her (Kaine agrees).

 

[loves2bmom]

http://www.katu.com/home/video/101689553.html

 

[loves2bmom]

Has anyone posted the KATU video? They have part 1 available. I'm watching it now and it is interesting.

http://www.katu.com/home/video/101689553.html

Made a new thread...I thought it was long enough to get it's own but if not, I'm sure mods with merge or delete.

 

[miabellamoure]

I don't know what to make of Desiree's statements...perhaps she is just trying something else, trying to scare Terri, instead of appeal to her. But I would think that Terri is already scared, either way. She is either scared because she is guilty, or she is scared because she is innocent and feels she could end up in jail anyway.

But I don't think Kyron is being held anywhere...I wish I believed that, but I don't.

Scare Terri...? Absolutely not...she was trying another method of communication. She was talking to her like one human being to another human being...one mother to another mother...one woman to another woman.

DY is a desperate mother reaching out to whatever she thinks might work...even if it's reaching out to her in a more compassionate way.

 

[Chili Fries]

They say that LE has not been giving them info lately, the flow of info to them has slowed down. Desiree says that LE only gives them the info they need but don't won't to give them false hope, or make them have to lie...it's a critical time for the investigation. They've been a little more tight-lipped. The belief that Kyron is still alive doesn't come from LE info, but from a belief Desiree has inside of her (Kaine agrees).

Desiree did not like the Oregonian article that she felt was "humanizing" Terri, it made her angry. She doesn't think that somebody in Terri's position should be glorified in any way, shape or form.

 

[cluciano63]

The video- is just so sad...

 

[loves2bmom]

Dang....where is part 2? Cutting off mid sentence wasn't the best editing was it.