Kyron's parents' statements, interviews

[grandmaj]

This thread has veered totally Off topic at this point. Please get yourselves back on track discussing the article. This isn't a Kaine Horman general discussion thread. Thanks



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[stmarysmead]

"Kaine waited for his daughter Baby K to take a nap and then took some time out from his Sunday to talk over the phone with KGW."

This part of the article touched me. In the way this is phrased, it seems Kaine would not speak to the reporter until the Baby was down for her nap. Kaine seems like a very loving care-giver.

I'm also glad that he has the care of his daughter to fill his time on a Sunday while they search again for Kyron. A child that age is so affectionate...just right to snuggle in your arms..no words needed. What a comfort!

I only wish Desiree had a little one to hold as well while she waits through these desperate days.

 

[Michael25]

“I know people want an arrest. I know they want this thing to move along but what people need to remember is that the minute there is an arrest, the minute there are charges, the clock starts ticking and no one can afford to make a mistake.

“If we’re not ready, if there are holes, that would be tragic. We can’t afford to let whoever was responsible to get away with it.

Bold by me.

I found this quote particularly interesting, because "the clock starts ticking" could be read so many ways. He uses the past tense ("we can't afford to let whoever was responsible..."), which could be interpreted to suggest that whatever "it" was, it is over. As others have said, I think he is now sharply focused on justice, but I can't help but, in my own selfish way, think of "the clock starts ticking" as the passage of time that occurs after an arrest, when someone could be questioned and details given as to where Kyron is being held captive, alive.

 

[cluciano63]

Bold by me.

I found this quote particularly interesting, because "the clock starts ticking" could be read so many ways. He uses the past tense ("we can't afford to let whoever was responsible..."), which could be interpreted to suggest that whatever "it" was, it is over. As others have said, I think he is now sharply focused on justice, but I can't help but, in my own selfish way, think of "the clock starts ticking" as the passage of time that occurs after an arrest, when someone could be questioned and details given as to where Kyron is being held captive, alive.

I'm sure he has been aware of the 60-day law in Oregon as far as having to go to trial if the defendant insists...sadly, I think that is what he is referring to here...

 

[Michael25]

Oh, I know. I was just trying to recontextualize it to give it a different spin.

In some ways I think it's good for both exacting justice and finding Kyron that the parents are reaching out in differing ways.

 

[TxLady2]

This to me does not have anything to with not being 'united"
This is just a good example of the general wiring differences between men and women.
Women tend to be more emotional and men tend to look at things from a less emotional perspective.
Desiree: not waiting anymore, we need money and help and I want my son back now.
Kaine: things are moving along in their own time and if we are patient it will come together.

they are both right.

I do think as the more logical thinker of the 2(imo) that Kaine is leaning towards the real possibility that Kyron may no longer be with us and Desiree refuses to think that is an option.
One is a more emotionally based outlook than the other.
Not right not wrong, just different.

Kaine=Mars
Deisree= Venus
Jbean= Moon

ITA!! He seems to have a more "practical" side, if you will. And husbands and wives very rarely agree on everything, anyway, or see things from the same perspective.
I surely would not read more into his statements than that. He's just thinking with his head, and she's thinking with her heart.

 

[kappy50]

"Patient"....it's been 4 months to the day little Kyron has been missing. No POI, no suspects, a whole lot of hulla bellew....I dunno, "Patience" would no where be close in my vocabulary. But if being patient is what gets KH through this, then that's great for him...far be it from me to second guess his patience.

 

[TxLady2]

I think some are over-analyzing everything they say. Here's a suggestion: Take what they both say and accept it for what it is. Don't try to add thoughts, intentions, emotions, or look for hidden meanings in it.

As another poster said, they are doing well to be a divorced couple, and in the long run, it doesn't matter that one is emotional and hanging on to the last shred of hope and the other is thinking practically and with utmost common sense. What matters is, Kyron is their son and they both want the best possible outcome for him. As long as they're not tearing each other apart, they're okay.

A situation like this can rip even a good marriage into shreds, so I'm proud that they're still basically speaking to each other!

 

[SmoothOperator]

I've not seen where the public in general has been impatient.

What we have seen is irrelevant. It is what Kaine has seen, been told, and feels to be the case. He is the one making the statement and is based upon his view. ( I for one fully admit that the father of this missing child would be privy to a much more accurate view of whether the public was or was not "impatient")

It certainly is not the first time that Kaine has reiterated this plea of everyone being patient. In the last interview of both he&DY he makes the statement that he knows that " the public is 'thirsty' for an arrest in this case" but that all must be patient to ensure that once an arrest is made that those responsible will more importantly be prosecuted successfully with a sure conviction. And that will take time to ensure that happens.

So regardless of what any of us "see" or "feel" is the public's opinion about being patient or impatient IMO we obviously are not in a position where we have " the public " daily voicing their views and opinions to us concerning the promptness or lack there of the movement of Kyrons case.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

"Patient"....it's been 4 months to the day little Kyron has been missing. No POI, no suspects, a whole lot of hulla bellew....I dunno, "Patience" would no where be close in my vocabulary. But if being patient is what gets KH through this, then that's great for him...far be it from me to second guess his patience.

But we have to remember, KH and DY know a lot more about what is going on in the case than we do IMO.
So, maybe he knows something that gives him more patience.

 

[stmarysmead]

"Patient"....it's been 4 months to the day little Kyron has been missing. No POI, no suspects, a whole lot of hulla bellew....I dunno, "Patience" would no where be close in my vocabulary. But if being patient is what gets KH through this, then that's great for him...far be it from me to second guess his patience.

I believe Kaine has been given good reason to be patient. I would never presume to think that any of us in the general public have been briefed by LE to the same EXACT extent as the parents of a missing child.

I think Kaine knows that LE is building a solid, airtight case. I think (as does her attorney) that Terri is a suspect...whether you want to add "de facto" or not. Terri is isolated. Her life now is one of stringent limitations, she is essentially in a virtual "jail"...a "de facto" jail, if one prefers. Her child is in safe hands with her loving Dad.

If one accepts that Kyron is gone...Terri has nothing to offer anymore. She can sit in her box until the strongest possible case against her is in place. Kaine believes in the work LE has done....he believes there will be justice for Kyron.

That alone is worth the wait. Patience will ensure justice.

 

[Jo in Calif]

I believe Kaine has been given good reason to be patient. I would never presume to think that any of us in the general public have been briefed by LE to the same EXACT extent as the parents of a missing child.

I think Kaine knows that LE is building a solid, airtight case. I think (as does her attorney) that Terri is a suspect...whether you want to add "de facto" or not. Terri is isolated. Her life now is one of stringent limitations, she is essentially in a virtual "jail"...a "de facto" jail, if one prefers. Her child is in safe hands with her loving Dad.

If one accepts that Kyron is gone...Terri has nothing to offer anymore. She can sit in her box until the strongest possible case against her is in place. Kaine believes in the work LE has done....he believes there will be justice for Kyron.

That alone is worth the wait. Patience will ensure justice.

Bravo! and a personal thanks.

 

[Adrienne37]

I am just in awe of Kaine's latest statements and I applaud him. I felt so terribly sorry for Desiree after seeing her on Friday but I just marvel at the strength that both of them have displayed since Kyron's disappearance. Kaine states that patience is needed and I will try to hold that thought as I continue to pray for Kyron's ultimate recovery just as I pray that Terri Moulton Horman will be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

 

[txsvicki]

I don't like the way things come back on Kyron's mother. She speaks about increasing the reward fund and she's labeled by the media and public as speaking with raw emotion and on the verge of a breakdown. Seems like the parents have been told that there is not enough evidence to go forward just yet, and Terri probably won't be interviewed again due to having a high powered attorney, but would LE really tell the parents everything they might have learned from the investigation? I don't see whey they would while the case isn't solved yet.

 

[Calliope]

What we have seen is irrelevant. It is what Kaine has seen, been told, and feels to be the case. He is the one making the statement and is based upon his view. ( I for one fully admit that the father of this missing child would be privy to a much more accurate view of whether the public was or was not "impatient")

It certainly is not the first time that Kaine has reiterated this plea of everyone being patient. In the last interview of both he&DY he makes the statement that he knows that " the public is 'thirsty' for an arrest in this case" but that all must be patient to ensure that once an arrest is made that those responsible will more importantly be prosecuted successfully with a sure conviction. And that will take time to ensure that happens.

So regardless of what any of us "see" or "feel" is the public's opinion about being patient or impatient IMO we obviously are not in a position where we have " the public " daily voicing their views and opinions to us concerning the promptness or lack there of the movement of Kyrons case.

Simply commenting on the topic.


Just my opinion, ya know.

 

[stmarysmead]

I don't like the way things come back on Kyron's mother. She speaks about increasing the reward fund and she's labeled by the media and public as speaking with raw emotion and on the verge of a breakdown. Seems like the parents have been told that there is not enough evidence to go forward just yet, and Terri probably won't be interviewed again due to having a high powered attorney, but would LE really tell the parents everything they might have learned from the investigation? I don't see whey they would while the case isn't solved yet.

I think there are very few who cannot understand Desiree's "raw emotion." Personally, I think she is an amazing woman who is still somehow standing after 4 months of this unending nightmare. It's not indicative of a "breakdown" if in one interview, her composure slips a bit. Let anyone who might point a finger, be VERY sure that they could endure what Desiree has endured with such dignity and grace all these months.

Imagine believing that a woman your child called "Mom" and put his arms around to hug good night...a woman your child loved and trusted...has betrayed that child's innocence and hurt him or...worse. These are the thoughts Desiree must deal with every hour of the day. And she believes Terri could end this ordeal and instead Terri instead chooses to obstruct and deny...the ultimate searing frustration only the parent of a missing child can understand.

But...Kaine's comment about "patience" has me thinking that Kaine believes his faith in LE is well placed. I think what he was saying was it does not matter WHEN LE goes forward...as long as one day the hammer is dropped and there is justice for Kyron.

 

[cluciano63]

I'm sorry for Kaine and what he is going through, but Desiree is the one who truly tears at my heart. I remember early on when she said she couldn't imagine living, or breathing, without Kyron, something to that effect, and I totally believe her.

She and Kaine may have reached a point where their opinions as to what has happened no longer mesh; he may have reached a sort of acceptance phase while she is far from that place. I just can't get over how open and raw she is, unafraid of any scrutiny or of saying the wrong thing, she is showing all of her emotions to the world, if only they will listen. Bless her heart...if only there is some way for Kyron to come back to her...I fear there is very little chance, but as long as he is not found, she will cling to whatever she can. And that may be just as painful, if it goes on and on...

 

[gwenabob]

I believe both Kaine and Desiree have behaved admirably under the most adverse circumstances. I do not believe I would have the strength to get up day after day and face what those two have faced day after day. Not only is their beloved little boy gone, probably forever, but they have to deal with intrusive press, and busy gossips who parse their every word for hidden nefarious meaning and cast unwarranted suspicion and fault their way. Yet they hold their head high with such grace! I do not dare put myself in the same sphere as those two. I would either be in my bed, unable to lift a finger to help myself, or planning a torture chamber for Terri to get the truth out her lying lips once and for all!

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Regardless of the relationship that they have had, a mother can never forget a child that she bore. Even though Desiree was not caring for Kyron on a day-to-day basis, she gave birth to him and will feel the loss of her child forever if he is not found. Desiree is Kyron's mother, and there will always be a special bond between them that cannot be experienced by anyone else. Thoughts and prayers for Desiree that her son will be located and brought home to her.

 

[GrainneDhu]

Assuming that this is what the reporter heard, then he certainly should have reported it. The searcher may have been indiscreet, but the reporter was under no obligation to cover for the searcher's indiscretion. That's how the news gets reported: someone tells the reporter, directly or indirectly.

Wait a minute.

That SAR dog handler was almost certainly a volunteer who was giving of their time and energy to help in the search for Kyron. That dog handler had a job to do, an assignment to fulfill and limited hours in which to do so. Were they supposed to wait to start the job until the media had gone completely away?

Sometimes, when handling a well trained dog, it feels like the dog can read your mind. But it's not factually true; dogs read body language and are taught various cues to communicate with them what task they are to perform.

That dog was taught a common cue amongst SAR dogs: "find the bones." That lets the dog know when to start searching and allows the dog to relax until the search starts, rather than burning their energy with false starts. Dogs only have finite amounts of energy and using it up in false starts does no one any good.

That SAR dog handler was not being indiscreet, they were doing the task they had been assigned to do.

Also, keep in mind that we're down to less than 12 hours of daylight per day. Waiting around for the media to leave is just using up increasingly precious minutes.

To me, reporting that cue was a violation akin to overhearing a private remark between a married couple that is clearly intended to be kept between them. It was unnecessary and it was intrusive, not only to any possible family members who saw the report but to that particular dog/handler team.