LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 5 June 2012 - #1

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  • #761
I don't think working at a Walmart or McDonalds would pay enough for the Motel room! Sure couldn't buy any food or pay a cab to get you there and back!
 
  • #762
I don't know what the motive was for what happened to Jaren or if there was one.

I do know that we see horrible things happen to people everyday and it has nothing to do with where they lived, worked, who they hung out with, etc.

Yes, there are certain precautions one can take to help "minimize" being a victim of certain crimes. Even if we all took every step we could to try to prevent ourselves or our loved ones from being a victim, the fact is there are still criminals that will find a way to prey on others.

They will prey on children, women, men.....they will find a way.

I try to refrain from going certain places in these cases until I get more facts. I don't want to revictimize anyone. Yes, certain things must be discussed in order to get to the bottom of things but there is a fine line that I don't want to cross.

I apologize if I've crossed that line.
 
  • #763
OT, but, I am surprised to see so many MS/LA/AL posters. I never knew so many near me were WS members!

Also a big welcome to all the new local members who have signed up! You will love it here!
 
  • #764
This is Jaren's (pronounced J(air) en) adopted mother. First, thanks to everyone for your comments and points of view. Yes, Jaren did have a hard life, but dealt with it with dignity and strength. She came into my life when she was 16 and lists me as her mother, and I'm very proud of that REGARDLESS of her lifestyle. She has a mother, a father, a brother and a little girl and a boyfriend who loved her very much. Her boyfriend IS NOT considered a suspect in her death. Also my children considered her their sister and that will never change. This is a public forum and I understand completely that everyone is entitled to their opinion. But some of the things I have been reading for the past few days is just plain ****. No one on this forum knows anything about the what NOPD Homicide Division nor the Hancock Cty Sheriff's Office is doing to bring this murderer to justice. And yes, she was a stripper and yes Hillary was one of her friends who was found dead two months ago and yes they did work at the same club. Remember, it's an ongoing investigation and there's a lot that her family knows but the news reports don't. I can't change anyone's opinion but I can ask that you be more respectful of the things you say about her. Someone else may stumble across this website and she the hurtful things that I saw. Remember, she does have a daughter that one day will be able to google her mother and surely don't want to answer that child's questions as to why people could say those things about her mother! All I'm asking for is respect for my beautiful angel, Jaren

I'm very sorry for your loss. I really hope LE gives this case the proper attention. May I suggest you go to the media and try to generate publicity especially the possibility re Hillary's murder? I remember when Derek Todd Lee began his murder spree, LE did everything hey could to quash the rumors that a serial killer was on the loose. The more publicity this case gets, the more awareness for the public which means more attention by LE.

And thanks or posting here.
 
  • #765
I respectfully disagree. No one HAS to be a stripper or a prostitute (I'm not saying that Jaren was, just speaking hypothetically). My sister was both. She gave up a good paying secure job and CHOSE to be. Do people have to work to eat and have a roof overhead? Absolutely. Is stripping and selling your body the only option? NO WAY. McDonald's and Walmart are always hiring and if someone for whatever reason can't get hired at those places then there is assistance. No one HAS to live that way.
eta..quoting gone wrong lol

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1. Walmart and McDonalds don't pay well.
2. Women and men may choose to be dancers or whatever. They shouldn't be judged by you or anyone else. It's really none of your business.
3. Whether a woman is a dancer or like Mickey Shunick riding her bike at 2 am, she doesn't deserve this nor is she asking for it.

The only person responsible for this heinous crime is the pathetic monster who did it. End of discussion.
 
  • #766
Off topic but I'm having trouble with quotes, when I hit the quote button, I see the quote and then type my reply but when I submit only part of the quote is showing up like the one Bessie fixed for me. Anyone else having problems? of course it could be me doing something wrong but same thing happened the other night. Oh well

Thanks Bessie for fixing mine.
 
  • #767
1. Walmart and McDonalds don't pay well.
2. Women and men may choose to be dancers or whatever. They shouldn't be judged by you or anyone else. It's really none of your business.
3. Whether a woman is a dancer or like Mickey Shunick riding her bike at 2 am, she doesn't deserve this nor is she asking for it.

The only person responsible for this heinous crime is the pathetic monster who did it. End of discussion.

Thank you.
 
  • #768
Without judging anyone, it is still hard to fathom that her employment is in not some way related to her murder. Possible, of course, but it seems unlikely. JMO


Its easy to make that assumption and most will. Under this type of thinking, we then have to say that what a rape victim was wearing, is responsible for her being raped Or a battered wife must have done something do deserve it and thats just disturbing.

Jaren wasnt the problem the sick ticket that murdered her and then desecrated her body is.

Mcdonalds requires a high school diploma, many of these dancers dont have one.

If she was on the system for financial aid these same judgemental posters would be judging her for that.

Like I said before, this poor girl never had a chance
 
  • #769
Its easy to make that assumption and most will. Under this type of thinking, we then have to say that what a rape victim was wearing, is responsible for her being raped Or a battered wife must have done something do deserve it and thats just disturbing.

Jaren wasnt the problem the sick ticket that murdered her and then desecrated her body is.

Mcdonalds requires a high school diploma, many of these dancers dont have one.

If she was on the system for financial aid these same judgemental posters would be judging her for that.

Like I said before, this poor girl never had a chance

What I said has nothing to do with her choices...it has to do with the types of people who frequent those places as customers, that is what I was referring to as far as having to do with her workplace. Nothing about the victim.
 
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Its easy to make that assumption and most will. Under this type of thinking, we then have to say that what a rape victim was wearing, is responsible for her being raped Or a battered wife must have done something do deserve it and thats just disturbing.

Jaren wasnt the problem the sick ticket that murdered her and then desecrated her body is.

Mcdonalds requires a high school diploma, many of these dancers dont have one.

If she was on the system for financial aid these same judgemental posters would be judging her for that.

Like I said before, this poor girl never had a chance

I think what the poster was saying is that Jaren's job and/or place of employment possibly exposed her to dangerous people more frequently. In that way, what she did for a living and/or her specific place of employment is quite possibly related to her death.

It's not a commentary on Jaren or her life. It's a matter of statistical probability, like cops and firefighters having a higher risk of death on or related to their job.

The evil doer is solely responsible for the atrocity.
 
  • #772
I've been reading through Jaren's thread and feeling so sad. Another beautiful young Louisiana girl taken away. During the past month WS has had too many new threads started because of the evil that some people choose to do. My heart is broken for these LA families (Jaren's, Mickey's, Bridgette's and Nicole's) and I pray for resolution and peace for them all.
In Jaren's case, I keep getting a feeling that her death was somehow related to money...I wonder if she had an unpaid debt, or maybe could robbery been a motive? She would have had cash on her after work Tuesday night, right?.
I lean towards debt because of the violent, yet personal nature of her murder. This perp wasn't afraid to get his hands dirty. And he/she was able to get close to Jaren to commit the crime suggesting a personal relationship. She knew her killer?
The way she was brutalized afterwards, in my opinion, suggests that maybe a message was being made. Kinda like, "if you owe me money, you better pay, or this is what may happen" sort of thing. Of course, he wouldn't have been certain that she would have ever been discovered. But the TALK around NOLA of this crime surely would have been all the warning any other person would need to pay up and on time. Does anybody else think that this is possible?
I pray that this person is found and taken off the streets SOON!
 
  • #773
:clap::clap::clap::clap::clap: Thank you so much resqx.

Just and FYI the McDonalds here were hiring and they had 200 application for 2 jobs. I learned a long time ago not to judge others because I'm not in their shoes!

Agree. And, my son, who just finished 2nd year university cannot find employment for the summer. He would gladly take a job at McDonalds or Walmart...but they aren't hiring where we live. There are many more applicants than jobs. I am not willing to judge people for where they work.
 
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What I said has nothing to do with her choices...it has to do with the types of people who frequent those places as customers, that is what I was referring to as far as having to do with her workplace. Nothing about the victim.

Thank you for putting this into words for me, cluciano!

I agree that the people who surround us in our daily lives are a big determining factor of the risks we might face. There are quite a few professions which would expose a person to a certain unsavory characters, such as dancer, bartender, probation officer, nightime cashier at a convenience store etc. I believe that all of those jobs put a person at an increased risk of being targeted...especially if you are a woman!

I think that people here just want to see the criminal who did this brought to justice, even if that means looking at people who may have come in to contact with her from seeing her at work.:moo:
 
  • #776
I've been reading through Jaren's thread and feeling so sad. Another beautiful young Louisiana girl taken away. During the past month WS has had too many new threads started because of the evil that some people choose to do. My heart is broken for these LA families (Jaren's, Mickey's, Bridgette's and Nicole's) and I pray for resolution and peace for them all.
In Jaren's case, I keep getting a feeling that her death was somehow related to money...I wonder if she had an unpaid debt, or maybe could robbery been a motive? She would have had cash on her after work Tuesday night, right?.
I lean towards debt because of the violent, yet personal nature of her murder. This perp wasn't afraid to get his hands dirty. And he/she was able to get close to Jaren to commit the crime suggesting a personal relationship. She knew her killer?
The way she was brutalized afterwards, in my opinion, suggests that maybe a message was being made. Kinda like, "if you owe me money, you better pay, or this is what may happen" sort of thing. Of course, he wouldn't have been certain that she would have ever been discovered. But the TALK around NOLA of this crime surely would have been all the warning any other person would need to pay up and on time. Does anybody else think that this is possible?
I pray that this person is found and taken off the streets SOON!
First Mickey, and now Jaren. Get out of my head, nola! ;)

Just kidding, but I see we agree again. I think the perp had to know the remains would eventually wash ashore and be ID'd, so I do believe that was intentional and meant as a warning to others who might cross him/her. I have other theories, but I lean toward this one right now.
 
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  • #778
What I said has nothing to do with her choices...it has to do with the types of people who frequent those places as customers, that is what I was referring to as far as having to do with her workplace. Nothing about the victim.
ITA. Based on statistics and historical data, it's perfectly reasonable to assume the crime was in some way related to Jaren's employment and people she met there.
 
  • #779
First Mickey, and now Jaren. Get out of my head, nola! ;)

Just kidding, but I see we agree again. I think the perp had to know the remains would eventually wash ashore and be ID'd, so I do believe that was intentional and meant as a warning to others who might cross him/her. I have other theories, but I lean toward this one right now.

Not sure about motive, but s/he was obviously not trying to hide the aftermath, in my opinion.

Allowing the remains to found within days seems to indicate lack of concern for being linked to the crime.

That's either a message or stone cold arrogance.
 
  • #780
First Mickey, and now Jaren. Get out of my head, nola! ;)

Just kidding, but I see we agree again. I think the perp had to know the remains would eventually wash ashore and be ID'd, so I do believe that was intentional and meant as a warning to others who might cross him/her. I have other theories, but I lean toward this one right now.

BBM
Agree, and thinking that more than one 🤬🤬🤬🤬 would be involved if so and because of what was sadly done to her.
 
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