GUILTY LA - Jaren Lockhart, 22, New Orleans, 5 June 2012 - #2

[aconcernedcitizen]

If he was a bouncer from another club and has not been back to work, why has noone filled a missing person report on him?

 

[StreetcarRider]

Jaren's clothes were found several days later.

But has anyone stated what sort of clothes these were?

 

[glezell]

http://www.sunherald.com/2012/06/12/4003427/pictures-video-released-of-couple.html

The man who was with them is or was a doorman at a business near the club where Lockhart worked on Bourbon Street.

People questioned around the Temptations club recognized the couple from surveillance pictures taken at the strip club, but did not perceive them to be a threat


Chief Investigator Glenn Grannan said New Orleans police found security tapes at most area businesses, and investigators were able to track the three people as they walked two or three city blocks and around a corner. That's when they lost track of them on video about 2:30 a.m

"They know we were looking for them and they haven't contacted us yet," Sheriff Ricky Adam said

 

[glezell]

Locals, apparently Fox8?? is supposed to air an interview with Jaren's brother and parents at 9 and 10??? Can someone be on the lookout?

 

[JurysOut]

kay: DING DING DING!!!!

Hmm...that wasn't my post quoted, but OK

 

[Theforeigner]

If the man in the video and the man hit by the train are indeed the same person (which, again, is a long shot), he would have had to change clothes at some point in almost a week. But people do tend to wear the same clothes repeatedly, and if not the exact same clothes, then at least the same style.

I'm familiar with the location in question, and unless this man was deaf, there's no possible way that he could have missed there was a train coming.

IF the man hit by the train is identical with the person in the JL video, and was some kind of witnesses in the murder case of JL, maybe the guy was pushed in front of the train...by the actual killer?

Alternative...he was the man in the JL video, and he was the killer and committed suicide.

But, if one of the two above possibilties turn out to be true, then, where is the woman seen in the JL video???

 

[JurysOut]

Its also not easy to find any about him on the net or her for that matter.

I noticed that. Very odd.

 

[lovemyhuskies]

Wow I just got here and reading back finally found the video. Here is a link for stills from the video. I must say those are very clear pictures for a surveillance video.

http://www.wdsu.com/news/local-news/new-orleans/-/9853400/14788146/-/loep6oz/-/index.html

In picture sixteen you can see his tattoo from a different angle. I could see it being a mask, but I'm probably just trying too hard to make certain pieces fit together.

 

[Annie1004]

But has anyone stated what sort of clothes these were?

No, just that they washed up.

 

[SmoothOperator]

http://www.sunherald.com/2012/06/12/4003427/pictures-video-released-of-couple.html

The man who was with them is or was a doorman at a business near the club where Lockhart worked on Bourbon Street.

People questioned around the Temptations club recognized the couple from surveillance pictures taken at the strip club, but did not perceive them to be a threat


Chief Investigator Glenn Grannan said New Orleans police found security tapes at most area businesses, and investigators were able to track the three people as they walked two or three city blocks and around a corner. That's when they lost track of them on video about 2:30 a.m

"They know we were looking for them and they haven't contacted us yet," Sheriff Ricky Adam said

IMO of most significance is the last statement by the Sheriff...IMO as Memory Foam verified for us last night people know who this man was and IMO so too is the same that people on Bourbon Street knew of the female as well.. i believe that LE therefore has known for some period of time who these two people are and have tried unsuccessfully to locate the two.. when they've Ben unable to do so they chose to apply what better than the public's pressure.. IMO that is exactly what this releasing the video is about.. its not about learning the two peoples identity, but rather a tactic to flush these two out into plain sight from their hiding.. (that is if they are still alive) ..just as the sheriff clearly states this couple has known that LE are and have been looking for them.. thus far they have not contacted LE.. whatever the reason is for that LE intends this tactic to get to the bottom of why and where these two individuals are at.. jmo..

 

[JurysOut]

IF the man hit by the train is identical with the person in the JL video, and was some kind of witnesses in the murder case of JL, maybe the guy was pushed in front of the train...by the actual killer?

Alternative...he was the man in the JL video, and he was the killer and committed suicide.

But, if one of the two is above possibilties turn out to be true, then, where is the woman seen in the JL video???

There must be a lot of dark haired Caucasian men with bicep tattoos who wear khaki shorts and black shirts. If the checkered hat wasn't found, it's only remotely possible, in my opinion.

 

[katydid23]

IF the man hit by the train is identical with the person in the JL video, and was some kind of witnesses in the murder case of JL, maybe the guy was pushed in front of the train...by the actual killer?

Alternative...he was the man in the JL video, and he was the killer and committed suicide.

But, if one of the two is above possibilties turn out to be true, then, where is the woman seen in the JL video???

Here is some wild speculation:

Let's say that the woman in the video is actually the woman who was just released from prison, after being an accomplice in those previous stripper murders. [ some here say that she looks a lot like her, and she is reportedly now back in NOLA.]

So maybe this bouncer is hanging out with this ex-killer, not knowing who she really is. And they agree to pick up Jaren and go party somewhere.

And then it all goes sideways, as the woman forces the bouncer to help her kill and dismember Jaren. She may have had him at gunpoint even.

Afterwards, he kills himself, because he realizes it is going to go downhill from there. OR she pushed him in front of the train, or drugs him and places him on the tracks.

Maybe this woman lured both the bouncer and Jaren to a man who was a serial killer.

 

[mcmlxxix]

Hmm...that wasn't my post quoted, but OK

That was me directing that statement towards you since you mentioned option 4, not quoting you... sorry for the confusion

 

[tiredblondy]

In picture sixteen you can see his tattoo from a different angle. I could see it being a mask, but I'm probably just trying too hard to make certain pieces fit together.

Naw I saw it too especially when I magnified my screen. I'd call it a face though because I can see a nose between the two eyes. And you're right 16 is the best picture of the tattoo.

 

[Theforeigner]

Just an observation:

I belive strongly that he "female" doorman in the JL video is a man, meaning; a transvestite/ or transgender.

Link to the video:
http://www.wdsu.com/news/local-news...ased/-/9853400/14787956/-/douq6d/-/index.html

 

[mcmlxxix]

There must be a lot of dark haired Caucasian men with bicep tattoos who wear khaki shorts and black shirts. If the checkered hat wasn't found, it's only remotely possible, in my opinion.

Given the possibility that a caucasian man with a bicep tattoo in khaki shorts may have killed a woman and known he would get caught, the probability of him throwing himself in a train afterwards (especially after watching the news) increases exponentially... I think it's not so remote of a possibility given the circumstances.

 

[tiredblondy]

IMO of most significance is the last statement by the Sheriff...IMO as Memory Foam verified for us last night people know who this man was and IMO so too is the same that people on Bourbon Street knew of the female as well.. i believe that LE therefore has known for some period of time who these two people are and have tried unsuccessfully to locate the two.. when they've Ben unable to do so they chose to apply what better than the public's pressure.. IMO that is exactly what this releasing the video is about.. its not about learning the two peoples identity, but rather a tactic to flush these two out into plain sight from their hiding.. (that is if they are still alive) ..just as the sheriff clearly states this couple has known that LE are and have been looking for them.. thus far they have not contacted LE.. whatever the reason is for that LE intends this tactic to get to the bottom of why and where these two individuals are at.. jmo..

I can see that but I also don't think (if it's the same guy) that he put himself under that train.

 

[JurysOut]

Here is some wild speculation:

Let's say that the woman in the video is actually the woman who was just released from prison, after being an accomplice in those previous stripper murders. [ some here say that she looks a lot like her, and she is reportedly now back in NOLA.]

So maybe this bouncer is hanging out with this ex-killer, not knowing who she really is. And they agree to pick up Jaren and go party somewhere.

And then it all goes sideways, as the woman forces the bouncer to help her kill and dismember Jaren. She may have had him at gunpoint even.

Afterwards, he kills himself, because he realizes it is going to go downhill from there. OR she pushed him in front of the train, or drugs him and places him on the tracks.

Maybe this woman lured both the bouncer and Jaren to a man who was a serial killer.

As an aside- I'm unable to find images of Atwood et al. Very, very strange

 

[Annie1004]

"Street performer?"

That's a new one.

I was going to ask what a Street Performer is in New Orleans. In San Francisco, it could be anyone from a mime, juggler, singer, dog act, guitar player, etc.

 

[gngr~snap]

Could the tat be similar to these?
IMO if it is masks... one is darker than the other!