LA - Vehicle drives through New Year's crowd - Multiple fatalities reported - Bourbon Street New Orleans - January 1 2025

[tlcya]

Was this statement made before or after they determined the people on the video weren't planting explosives?

I have no clue, all I know is the article was posted 51 minutes ago by the BBC.

 

[DS2021]

From this am

Live updates: Authorities investigating 'people of interest' after New Orleans attack that killed 15

At least 15 people were killed and 30 were injured in New Orleans when a person intentionally drove a pickup truck into a crowd during New Year's celebrations.

www.google.com

Authorities are looking into "people of interest" related to yesterday's attack on Bourbon Street, New Orleans Police Department Superintendent Anne Kirkpatrick told NBC News’ “TODAY” show this morning.

"We have people of interest. They are not people who are suspects at this time," Kirkpatrick said, speaking in a live interview with Hoda Kotb and Laura Jarrett.

She added that the FBI, which is leading the investigation, was in the process of "tracking down everybody

 

[GRT]

I thought the opening sentence attempts to minimise ISIS and its violent tentacles in the Western world:

"I'm really wondering whether the whole ISIS aspect of this massacre is just window dressing. I'm thinking of the timelines in this man's life and how being Muslim may have formed his trajectory over decades "

Calling ISIS just 'window dressing' when it was ISIS and its violent teachings that compelled him to slaughter those innocent people seems problematic, imo. We shouldn't lose sight of that radicalisation process that has been so destructive and deadly.

It does seem to seek to justify his actions by claiming he did this because people were mean to him after 911. That is a false justification, imo. We should not try to rationalise such vicious homicidal behaviour.

And the more we justify these violent actions by calling them understandable, the more we normalise them. IMO

Good points. Some things are understandable. When an American joins ISIS, they almost certainly have to have a deep hatred for the US--because ISIS is our enemy. They exist to rid the world of the rest of us.

But it appears that Jabbar only recently joined, so it's natural to question his underlying motives. Was he radicalized, and because of that, he sought to kill Americans--for his beloved Prophet? Or did he hate his life and our nation so much that he sought to end his life in the most vile manner possible and take out as many innocents as he could?

Officials and the media are asking all of those questions, and they will be asked at hearings, too. We already have congressmen demanding to know how this guy slipped under the DHS/FBI radar.

As soon as I saw the jacket-wrapped flag yesterday, I figured it was an ISIS flag. Had it been virtually any other flag, they wouldn't have bothered.

I agree with you about the dangers of radicalization. Those dangers are undeniable.

But there is an elephant in the room. How did this little sleeper cell (if that's what it was) escape the attention of DHS and the FBI, which are constantly monitoring?

We will learn more about that as the investigation continues, but I'm always open to hearing everyone's opinions and views because others see things I might miss. I might not agree with them, but I appreciate it when they take the time to share what they're thinking.

 

[indicolite22]

But it appears that Jabbar only recently joined, so it's natural to question his underlying motives. Was he radicalized, and because of that, he sought to kill Americans--for his beloved Prophet? Or did he hate his life and our nation so much that he sought to end his life in the most vile manner possible and take out as many innocents as he could?

SBM. According to the media reports he fantasized about rounding up and killing his own family at some point. Was this some sort of revenge or did he perceive them to be anti-Islam, too?

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I watched the video and the newscaster said the suspect is "at large". So, not dead.

I'm really wondering whether the whole ISIS aspect of this massacre is just window dressing. I'm thinking of the timelines in this man's life and how being Muslim may have formed his trajectory over decades. He graduated high school in 2001. So I presume that was pre 9/11. He may have had a fairly easy time up until that event; he was just a school mate with a weird cool name; the same as a famous basketball player. But after 9/11 I'm sure he started to feel the animosity that started to build toward Muslims after that event. And hasn't really left. People were getting killed just because someone thought they were Muslim. I remember a couple of Sikhs were murdered in California shortly after 9/11 because the perp mistakenly took their turbans for keffiyehs.

So Jabbar went to college, got a degree, joined the military, was honorably discharged, got married and had kids. Normal stuff. He probably led a fairly normal life until the marriage dissolved. He got divorced from his first wife which probably meant he had to pay either alimony and/or child support. Even after his first wife remarried, he'd still be required to pay child support. He gets married again, has more kids and this marriage doesn't work out either. Divorced again. He's working but he isn't going anywhere financially, drowning in debt from the court cases, the child support, one of his business fails, another one fails and saddles him with massive debt.

At this point in time, some people in similar situations decide to take the easy way out and off themselves while some people start to feel anger and frustration over their lot in life and start focusing on retribution. Everyone is against him. No matter what he does he's no further ahead, he stews about the injustice of it all and how he's doesn't get a break. He's starts to unravel and creates tension with his first wife and kids, so much so, the new husband forbids him to see his older kids because he fears what Jabbar is capable of.

At this point in time he can't contain his anger. He needs a release. Someone who will commiserate with him, someone who nurtures his anger and retribution, and what better place to do it but online. Bitching about *advertiser censored* and the breakdown of the family, the lack of respect, the court system's emasculation of a man, the whole system against him.

He was going to do what many men who've been in the same boat have done; acrimonious divorce, mounting debt, being denied access to his children. He was going to kill them all. Easy, peasy. But somewhere along that timeline he didn't just see his exes, and the courts, and his destitution as the problem, he saw a greater issue. It was all because of his faith. And it probably pissed him off even more because he didn't really practice it at all. So he decides he's going out with a bang. He's dressing up his hatred for his financial woes and his failure as a husband and father as a hatred for America. And what better way to get back at America but strike them in way that will cause the same kind of despair, fear and anger that he has felt. And here we are.

dbm.... ample discussion going on.

 

[Dotta]

"New Orleans police promise
'hundreds of officers'
will line city streets surrounding Sugar Bowl after attack.

The game, originally scheduled for 7:45pm CST at the 70,000-seat Superdome on Wednesday,
was pushed back to 3pm Thursday.
The winner advances to the January 9 Orange Bowl against Penn State."

New Orleans police promise 'hundreds of officers' for Sugar Bowl

New Orleans Police Chief Anne Kirkpatrick is promising 'hundreds of officers' will be lining the city streets prior to Thursday's rescheduled Sugar Bowl following the terrorist attack.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[Curiousobserver]

Never mind all the focus on how security failed, we need to be very concerned how we can have people with such views in our military and they go undetected.

Both of these guys (NOLA and Vegas) were home-grown military. The alleged Vegas bomber was in our special forces. I find it terrifying to consider that there may be a large number of these individuals around.

Pictured: Vegas terrorist who blew up Cybertruck outside Trump hotel

The bomber who blew up a Tesla Cybertruck outside the Trump International Hotel in Las Vegas has been identified as active duty Army service member Matthew Livelsberger.

www.dailymail.co.uk

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I don't think the poster was letting the killer off easy at all--they were saying he may have latched on to ISIS but could just have easily glommed onto any ideology that in his twisted mind justified his actions. The poster gave a very thoughtful psychological explanation. This is exactly how radicalization works. A perpetrator can justify their actions based on far-right accelerationist ideology, incel ideology, radical Islamist ideology--the ideology is beside the point. We're seeing this play out in society practically every month with mass killers from all kinds of backgrounds. This killer was originally going to kill his family. Probably in his warped mind, he needed a better "reason" to commit violence and latched onto radical Islam because in his mind it fit his "values" better. It's all warped and distorted thinking, but I think it's important to look at the psychological process of radicalization to be able to prevent it. MOO

Outstanding rebuttal, in my opinion. We must get into and under this overt and increasing violence. Violence is world-wide. But American Violence is a newer form of violence to me. Violence has been given a license to trive.

These American events all come from very different places. We have to get under the surface to try to stop and snuff out what is growing.... before it explodes.

 

[Tiff23fr]

Hopeful this means more info to the public in the coming hours (It was stated yesterday this would be an unclassified call)

Washington — Members of the House Homeland Security Committee are set to be briefed by the FBI Thursday morning on the attack in New Orleans, in which authorities say a man intentionally drove a pickup truck into a crowd in the French Quarter on New Year's Day.

The Assistant Director of the FBI's Counterterrorism Division David Scott will brief the committee members and staff, along with members of the Louisiana congressional delegation, in a call on Thursday morning, according to a committee aide.

FBI to brief House Homeland Security Committee on New Orleans attack

The Assistant Director of the FBI's Counterterrorism will brief the committee members and staff in a call on Thursday morning, according to a committee aide.

www.cbsnews.com

 

[Tiff23fr]

I have no clue, all I know is the article was posted 51 minutes ago by the BBC.

Louisiana attorney general, Liz Murrill, told NBC News that she can say “with some certainty that there are multiple people who are involved”.

Authorities believe ‘multiple people are involved’ in New Orleans truck attack that killed 15 – latest updates

House fire in New Orleans home also believed to be ‘connected to this event’, says Louisiana attorney general Liz Murrill

www.theguardian.com

This was only 5 hours ago…

 

[nhmemorymaker]

The attacker told his college paper that he struggled to adjust to life after the military.

New Orleans Attacker Was ‘Inspired’ by ISIS, Biden Says

Investigators who briefed President Biden told him that the suspect had posted videos indicating that he had a “desire to kill.” At least 15 people died in the attack.

www.nytimes.com

Thank you so much for posting this article.
How many folks here know of the turmoil and frustration with the Veterans Administration.... I hope they speak up.
I personally know a number of people who have tried, been committed to hospital, partially endured, and died under the Veterans Administration blockage and obstructions to services....

I have seen folks end up in severe depression and addiction over it, and I have seen one person become a master machine to fight the system. Over the 25 years i have known this one individual...... he has been fighting the Veterans admin, with forms, papers, letters to governors, senators, reps. In 2023 he finally received a settlement payment on charges of non-service (agent orange). And he is still fighting two or three cases of non-service.. just became his life work.

All I am really saying......... this will be looked at as a minor part of the killer's path to radicalism... but it is not to be ignored.
mool

 

[Tiff23fr]

Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry will hold a news conference to update the public on the Bourbon Street terror attack at 10 a.m. local time (11 a.m. ET).

He’ll be joined by officials from the FBI, Louisiana State Police, New Orleans Police, the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives, and the U.S. Attorney’s Office.

Gov. Jeff Landry to hold news conference on Bourbon Street attack at 10 a.m. CT

Louisiana Gov. Jeff Landry will hold a news conference to update the public on the Bourbon Street terror attack at 10 a.m. local time (11 a.m. ET).

www.nbcnews.com

 

[imstilla.grandma]

 

[imstilla.grandma]

They arrived at the location on Wednesday afternoon and continued to work into Thursday morning.

According to the FBI, the search concluded shortly before 8 a.m. The agency says there is no threat to residents in the area

FBI, HCSO conclude search at Houston property connected to New Orleans attack

The FBI and the Harris County Sheriff's Office have concluded their search of a Houston property as part of their investigation into the deadly New Year's Day truck attack in New Orleans that left 15 people dead.

www.fox26houston.com

 

[Simply Southern]

I get what you're saying and why it's so frustrating to learn the barricades were so inadequate.

I like that you mentioned how they cordon off Times Square with bulldozers, sanitation trucks, etc. I was totally unaware of that type of barrier being used, but I really like it. It's effective and yet it doesn't cost an arm and a leg to implement.

I'm guessing we'll see more communities taking those steps going forward.

I think a lot of the reason people overlook things like that is they just can't imagine something so horrible happening in their own little realm. But every time something like this happens, we're reminded that we have to be vigilant.

I live is a very small town and we use trash trucks and heavy equipment to block streets for our Christmas parade and other events.

I can't believe, they didn't do this. Pure neglect.

Moo...

 

[Elley Mae]

I live is a very small town and we use trash trucks and heavy equipment to block streets for our Christmas parade and other events.

I can't believe, they didn't do this. Pure neglect.

Moo...

I had the same thought on trash trucks.

I would also like to know hiw many ppl saw his post hours before the attack and did nothing.

Jmo

In an address to the nation Biden said Jabbar posted videos on social media hours before the attack “indicating he was inspired by ISIS, expressing a desire to kill.”

'He may have just went crazy': Family, friends open up about suspect in New Orleans attack

The man the FBI says rammed a truck into a crowd of New Year's revelers served in the U.S. Army and had a lucrative job at Deloitte.

www.usatoday.com

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I am just flabbergasted, looking at the pictures my fellow WSers have posted of the various barricades allegedly in place here.

They ALL seem totally inadequate to stop a truck racing down the street.

That aluminum looking one with the vertical posts is used here and probably in many cities just for crowd control. It’s to keep us out of the path of a parade, etc.

If someone wanted to, they could climb right over that or push it forward. Just leaning against it is enough to move it a few inches.

Why oh why were there not effective means initiated to prevent vehicular terrorism? Bourbon St. is a party street in a party town—-it’s going to be swarmed on New Year’s.

I blame the terrorist, of course. But I’m really stunned at what IMO was a very paltry and deficient use of barricades.

Here in Times Square, as I believe most people know, the NYPD blocks off a frozen zone on NYE. Sanitation trucks, bulldozers, and other sturdy vehicles are parked perpendicular to the streets. Plus since 9/11 the crowds are funneled through metal detectors.

It is draining for everyone but is so much more effective when it comes to a driver determined to inflict mass casualties.

JMO and experience.

quote from @Arkay . Sanitation trucks, bulldozers, and other sturdy vehicles are parked perpendicular to the streets.

This is such a cheap and effective solution, countrywide. Just some gas money.

 

[Simply Southern]

Was this statement made before or after they determined the people on the video weren't planting explosives?

What video? I've been following and have not heard, suspects planting bombs were not true. Been watching numerous MSM since this happened.

Can you help with a link?

 

[MassGuy]

NEW: The FBI and New Orleans police no longer believe there are any other suspects involved in the New Year's truck attack, sources say.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1874838060279402516

 

[nhmemorymaker]

I had the same thought on trash trucks.

I would also like to know hiw many ppl saw his post hours before the attack and did nothing.

Jmo

In an address to the nation Biden said Jabbar posted videos on social media hours before the attack “indicating he was inspired by ISIS, expressing a desire to kill.”

'He may have just went crazy': Family, friends open up about suspect in New Orleans attack

The man the FBI says rammed a truck into a crowd of New Year's revelers served in the U.S. Army and had a lucrative job at Deloitte.

www.usatoday.com

quote from @Elley Mae . I would also like to know hiw many ppl saw his post hours before the attack and did nothing.

It's almost like I wish Big Brother was watching....
I know too touchy to considered. so mooo mooop