LA - Vehicle drives through New Year's crowd - Multiple fatalities reported - Bourbon Street New Orleans - January 1 2025

[StarryStarryNight]

I will note that using vehicles to run through crowds of people seems to be a favorite tactic for terror attacks in Europe.
Real terror attacks by real terrorists with real terrorist intent. Not homegrown crap.

 

[MissPie]

I will note that using vehicles to run through crowds of people seems to be a favorite tactic for terror attacks in Europe.
Real terror attacks by real terrorists with real terrorist intent. Not homegrown crap.

Don’t forget Charlottesville. Nice homegrown crap right there.

 

[steeltowngirl]

Call me crazy, but even if the motive is ‘kill lots of people at once’ without a distinct sociopolitical ideology, I think it should still be considered terrorism - just in the name of chaos, not religion or political motives. MOO.

ETA: a word

I consider it terrorism, but that's just how I feel and not a legal definition. I do understand the FBI's concern with rumors and false narratives. The Waukesha parade attack comes to mind. Some rushed to incorrectly label it a racially motivated attack, which could have fueled a misplaced public furor.

jmo

 

[Deleted member 306806]

MSN

www.msn.com

New Orleans terrorist killed after slaughtering 15 NYE revelers

At least 15 people are dead and 35 left injured after an SUV plowed into a large group near the intersection of Bourbon Street and Canal Street in the New Orleans French Quarter early this morning.

www.dailymail.co.uk

There is a flag mounted on the trailer hitch - see the photos. In all photos I have seen, it has been curled up on itself. Anyone know what the flag is?

 

[GRT]

Don’t forget Charlottesville. Nice homegrown crap right there.

Wasn’t that categorized/charged as a hate crime? As opposed to a terrorist act?

 

[StarryStarryNight]

MSN

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New Orleans terrorist killed after slaughtering 15 NYE revelers

At least 15 people are dead and 35 left injured after an SUV plowed into a large group near the intersection of Bourbon Street and Canal Street in the New Orleans French Quarter early this morning.

www.dailymail.co.uk

There is a flag mounted on the trailer hitch - see the photos. In all photos I have seen, it has been curled up on itself. Anyone know what the flag is?

I’m glad you identified that as a possible flag.
My brain kept trying to make that a pole with a video camera on it.
I think I need to stop thinking about this for awhile.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Wasn’t that categorized/charged as a hate crime? As opposed to a terrorist act?

You are correct.
From Wikipedia, James Alex Fields Jr. was convicted of the following:

Federal convictions:

• Hate crime act resulting in death
• Hate crime act that caused bodily injury involving an attempt to kill (28 counts)

State convictions:

• First-degree murder
• Malicious wounding(8 counts)
• Aggravated malicious wounding (5 counts)
• Felonious assault (2 counts)<a href="Charlottesville car attack - Wikipedia"><span>[</span>10<span>]</span></a>
• Leaving the scene of an accident

 

[Cota332]

CNN is now reporting :

"The FBI is now investigating the deadly New Orleans incident at an “act of terrorism,” the bureau said in a statement."

 

[kuromiiiilove]

FBI now investigating Bourbon Street mass-casualty incident as 'act of terrorism'

A man, who was later shot and killed by police, drove a truck into a crowd of people and opened fire Wednesday morning, killing 10 and injuring at least 35 others.

www.shreveportbossieradvocate.com

 

[Deleted member 306806]

New Orleans terrorist killed after slaughtering 15 NYE revelers

At least 15 people are dead and 35 left injured after an SUV plowed into a large group near the intersection of Bourbon Street and Canal Street in the New Orleans French Quarter early this morning.

www.dailymail.co.uk

There is a flag mounted on the trailer hitch - see the photos. In all photos I have seen, it has been curled up on itself. Anyone know what the flag is?

I spy a cursive bumper sticker on the tailgate of first pic on the DailyMail article, to the left top of the tailgate by the light.

eta: looks like a capital M and H. ?

 

[indicolite22]

An FBI agent said, “ it was not a terrorist event at this point in the investigation.”

Shouldn't they have said that it was undetermined? Also, if the FBI knew at least as much as the mayor, how could she say yes and they no?

 

[StarryStarryNight]

Before I stop thinking about this for awhile:
The license plate and number on this truck is clear as day.
Unless the truck is stolen, LE and the news media know who this person is and likely know their motive.

 

[infinitysquared]

Shouldn't they have said that it was undetermined?

That's exactly what "it was not a terrorist event at this point in the investigation" means.

 

[DS2021]

Now, they’re reporting at least one IED was found in the vehicle. Was this guy planning a bigger event?

Im assuming he wanted them to go off during the crash.

Theres no way he planned on being able to escape to a secondary location after bourbon street

 

[red carpet fiber]

[/QUOTE]

I spy a cursive bumper sticker on the tailgate of first pic on the DailyMail article, to the left top of the tailgate by the light.

eta: looks like a capital M and H. ?

That's a dealership badge from Mack Haik, Texas auto dealer

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[IceIce9]

Shouldn't they have said that it was undetermined? Also, if the FBI knew at least as much as the mayor, how could she say yes and they no?

I think the mayor was irresponsible in declaring it a terrorist attack before the facts were known, JMO.

Listening to several different national media reports it has been stated that the mayor shouldn’t have immediately declared it a terrorist attack. They attributed it to her inexperience. JMO

 

[indicolite22]

That's exactly what "it was not a terrorist event at this point in the investigation" means.

IMO it could also be understood that there were early indications that it wasn't a terrorist event.

 

[DS2021]

Is this the biggest US mass casuality event since Lewiston in 2023?

 

[Cota332]

This article was helpful in explaining why Domestic Terrorism Charges do not technically exist under US law (federally).

FBI labeling an incident as Terrorism gives broad power to the government to thoroughly investigate not just the perpetrator, but also any known associates. However, no Federal level statute explicitly labels 'Domestic Terrorism' as a crime. A caveat to this, is that if the individual belongs to one of about 60 groups that the State Department has already labeled terrorist entities, then federal charges of individual Terrorism on behalf of these groups can be brought about.

 

[infinitysquared]

IMO it could also be understood that there were early indications that it wasn't a terrorist event.

It could, but knowing how law enforcement agencies communicate (all around the world), it was rather obvious it meant: as of now we're not yet at the point to state such determination publicly. Meaning: we may be leaning towards some conclusion, but it's premature to make it an official standpoint (there are still some substantial unknowns which need to be resolved first).