Laura Babcock Murder Trial 11.28.17 - Day 23

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Lisa Hepfner‏@HefCHCHNews

Jury is back at #LauraBabcock murder trial.

Millard is calling his next witness, Lisa Williams.

 

[Shaz14]

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Millard is calling his next witness, Lisa Williams. #LauraBabcock

Ahh, the bookkeeper makes another appearance

The bookkeeper-not-bookkeeper?

I can't remember...wasn't she a crown witness in the TB trial?

 

[Velma]

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Lisa Williams worked for MillardAir as a bookkeeper. "Hi Lisa," Millard starts. "How do we know each other?" "Well, I've known you since you were about 15. I used to have a store. I guess that's how we met." She giggles nervously. "I don't know what to say about that."

 

[Inspector_North]

I think he actually did bury the gun somewhere in a forest. There are lots of wooded areas around his mom's house and he didn't really have any transportation besides his bike...and Millard who was not available for obvious reasons. I don't believe that he has forgotten where he buried it though, and I don't think the gun stayed there long. Too valuable too dump in a lake. I bet it was returned to Ish as DM had promised. MOO

I still believe there were two guns in the toolbox. MS was going to sell his, and that didn't work out. And if he had let LE get their hands on the gun, they could determine which one fired the shell casing in the truck. Every gun has a distinct firing pin fingerprint, especially guns from different manufacturers. Just not sure if LE has determined which gun belonged to who. From the texts, MS had the German PPK. MOO

 

[kaRN]

Is it normal to use the term "long bones"?

Yes

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[RandomName479]

The bookkeeper-not-bookkeeper?

I can't remember...wasn't she a crown witness in the TB trial?

a reluctant one....

 

[caseyjonesin905]

And DM was the genius?

He wore a short sleeved shirt to a murder displaying his "ambition"
He put the Truck in the Hangar and let his employees see it
He called his body shop to do an emergency paint job on the truck while it was all over the news
He preferred to text, which were easily retrieved. MS wanted voice calls.
He had the keys to the truck on his key chain.
He wrote letters to help the crown.

He texted CN about getting LB out of their lives.
He texted ISH that the gun would be a "dirty girl"
He took a photo of the tarp
He put "barn smell test" for july 7th on his calandar
He googled "Cremation temp required" around the time LB disappeared

He bought a animal incinerator without a realistic use for it

....... and he thinks he can defend his "genius" client.

MOO

Lol.. He must be trying to prove he can do it to himself.. He's clearly going down again for murder.. But it's not like his mother can brag about her sons accomplishments in her social circles..
"Oh Connor and Hannah are pregnant, I'm going to be a nana again! Connor's business has really taken off.. I'm just so proud of him!! What's new with you Madeline?? How's Dellen?"
"Well, he's FINALLY been able to use all of those Spanish lessons he took a few years back, he's cutting his own hair now, took up braiding.. . and doing REALLY well representing himself in another Murder 1 case.. I do walk that mangy Mexican dog along the lake everyday, so at least there's that.. "

 

[Velma]

Dellen Millard calls his next witness, Lisa Williams.

She met him when he was 15. She was a bookkeeper for Millard Air and Millard properties.
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Can you tell us about bookkeeping duties? She would enter data from receipts into the accounting program Quickbooks. For MillardAir and Millard Properties. Not Millard's personal bookkeeping, she says. #LauraBabcock

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She did not do books for Villada Homes, she says. Who owns Villada homes? "You," Williams says. She has trouble describing the company for the judge. They did renovations, she settles on. As far as she knew, Wayne Millard operated the companies she worked for.

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Lisa, who is Wayne Millard? Your father. Where did she work on the #Millard books? Sometimes at her own home and sometimes at Maple Gate. "That was yours and your dad's home," she answers Millard. #LauraBabcock

 

[FastLikeLight]

I think, the today's expert went backwards in the final report to please the customer: deer -> what deer's bone would match the picture -> bone. He was more scientific in the informal (initial) report: bones - too blurry -> might be deer might be human.

 

[Velma]

Williams says the owner of Millard Air was Wayne Millard.

Millard asks, "Lisa, who is Wayne Millard?"

Williams, "Your father."

She says the two men lived together in Etobicoke, Ont.
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Millard asks her about the physical make up of the office. She describes two desks, files, receipts.
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There was an office at the front of the house, Williams says. "I remember your dad had a desk on one side, and a couple more desks on the opposite side, then there was a metal shelf behind your dad." Shelf had office supplies, she testified. #Millard

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There was a fireplace in that room, "it was a converted home office then," Millard offers. Williams says Millard's dad was always there when she was there to do books. #LauraBabcock

 

[Velma]

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The Villada Homes employees spoke Spanish, Williams agrees. She would see them at the house sometimes, she agrees. What was the command structure of MillardAir? She doesn't understand the question.

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Wayne Millard had all the paperwork and would write any cheques and do the banking, Williams says. "Was I head of the company or was my father?" #Millard clarifies his question. "Your father." She started working in January 2012, until Wayne Millard died. #LauraBabcock

Millard, "The Millard Air company, can you tell us about the command structure of the company?"

Williams, "What do you mean?"

Millard explains if Wayne Millard was in charge. She says he would write the cheques, he'd do banking, "that stuff."

She says Millard's father was the head of the company.

She worked at the company throughout 2012.
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[Velma]

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Do you know of the Charley 5-4 books? Yes, Williams says it was a second set of books that Wayne Millard would use to copy accounting information. "He liked paper," she says. #LauraBabcock

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"Were there ever times my father would catch an error in Quickbooks?" Your dad didn't have Quickbooks. But Wayne Millard "was very precise" and would catch things she missed. #LauraBabcock

Millard, "Was there ever a time when my father would catch an error in the books?"

Williams said he'd never check the "quick book" because he didn't check the computer. Though, she says, he was very precise.

Millard, "We've heard a lot about the incinerator in this trial. Was it on the company books?"

Williams answers, "Yes it was."

by Shannon Martin 2:34 PM

 

[LadyL]

more likely he's a sociopath who doesn't care - the act didn't bother him, nor do the images IMO

Illusory Truth Effect.
Equating repetition with truth.
He's told himself the lie enough times that the images don't bother him.

 

[Velma]

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The incinerator was purchased on the company books, Lisa Williams says. #LauraBabcock

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Williams recognizes the invoice from Tristar, she says. #Millard has it on the screen. "I am assuming the cremator is the eliminator? The incinerator? It's a downpayment." She has seen the document. #LauraBabcock

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Blue ink handwriting at the bottom of the invoice... Dellen Millard wrote garbage or utilities account. Her writing says MP #230 July 7/12? A note to relate to the Quickbooks file. She can't remember a garbage account. #LauraBabcock

 

[Nosey Parker]

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The incinerator was purchased on the company books, Lisa Williams says. #LauraBabcock

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Williams recognizes the invoice from Tristar, she says. #Millard has it on the screen. "I am assuming the cremator is the eliminator? The incinerator? It's a downpayment." She has seen the document. #LauraBabcock

On the company books WM never checked?

 

[mimimic]

He must have wrote that in the truck quick before getting a chance to re-file it.

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The incinerator was purchased on the company books, Lisa Williams says. #LauraBabcock

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Williams recognizes the invoice from Tristar, she says. #Millard has it on the screen. "I am assuming the cremator is the eliminator? The incinerator? It's a downpayment." She has seen the document. #LauraBabcock

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Blue ink handwriting at the bottom of the invoice... Dellen Millard wrote garbage or utilities account. Her writing says MP #230 July 7/12? A note to relate to the Quickbooks file. She can't remember a garbage account. #LauraBabcock

 

[Velma]

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Lisa Williams says there was no garbage account, as far as she can remember, but there was a utilities account, and a GSE account, which had to do with other hangar business. She definitely remembers #Millard handwriting, as well as her own. The MP is "Millard Properties."

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"K, Lisa. We see some more handwriting on the screen. You see an arrow that says downpayment?" She does. She recognizes #Millard's dad's handwriting. #LauraBabcock

Millard pulls up the invoice of the animal incinerator. It shows the cost, $15,242.50.

There is some handwriting at the bottom, it says in all caps, "paid."

There is another note, "Garbage or Utilities account" and another that says GSC account, but that is crossed out.

Justice Code asks, "Was there a garbage account?"

Williams says she can't remember there being one called garbage.
by Shannon Martin 2:39 PM

 

[JPC]

Lots of reference to WM. Hopefully he doesn’t try to pin it on him.


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[Shaz14]

On the company books WM never checked?

Was it only in the Quickbooks or did he copy it into the paper books too? That isn't clear.

 

[Velma]

We see another slip, relating to the incinerator.

Williams says Wayne Millard's handwriting is on the document.. There is an equation of the total cost, minus a $5,000 down payment "by Visa" it reads.

Millard, "So it's your understanding the incinerator was put on company books, but you can't remember which account?

She answers no.
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The incinerator was put on the books but she can't remember what account she put it under, she says. #LauraBabcock

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Wayne Millard would get the bank statements, check them himself, make notes and writing, and pass them to Williams. "I would see his handwriting all the time," she says. #LauraBabcock