Lawyer of baby Lisa's family sets up a website

[PlainJaneDoe]

For the public to print out and post! :waitasec: moo

So...nothing new on this website, is that correct? Just interviews and posters which have been readily available elsewhere?

 

[Melanie]

How many glasses were in that bottle of wine? Was it more than 5 but less than 10? :crazy:

a 750 ml. bottle of wine will last me 2-3 days. You should be able to squeeze 3-4 glasses out of it. A box o' wine is equivalent to 6 bottles of wine, or 18-24 glasses IMHO.

:crazy:

MOO

Mel

 

[Deleted member 39678]

It's quoted from the affidavit.

http://www.kmbc.com/download/2011/1021/29552734.pdf

Thanks for your reply. I don't believe that the dog "hit" on the floor itself. It had to be the carpet or something lying on the floor. LE wrote "in an area of the floor" because they didn't want to release a specific location or object of the dogs "hit" to the public.

 

[~n/t~]

multi-color comforter
purple shorts
multi-color Disney character shirt
glow worm toy
"cars" themed blanket
roll of tape
tape dispenser

Listed in the Return/Receipt for search warrant.

http://www.kmbc.com/download/2011/1021/29552734.pdf

Thank you. After 16 - 17 hours, I must admit I'm surprised and confused by how little was taken. I'm also surprised they didn't take the carpet or flooring. No bedding from Lisa's room? Nothing taken from the backyard? Nothing from the shed? No bedding from the master bedroom? None of DB's or JI's clothing? No baby products? Were the items taken located in the master bedroom?

Do we have any attorneys here who can explain if this makes any sense? Would LE have another return/receipt that we are not privy to ? Can they go in again? If so, do they need another search warrant?

 

[HatesSociopaths]

This isn't the same website linked in the OP?

Thanks - makes a lot more sense now.

 

[~n/t~]

Speaking of that, did you notice the wording about the tipline?
'If you see baby Lisa call.' Nothing at all about if you believe you may have info about the baby, nothing about I believe someone I know may have harmed her. You are only supposed to call if you "see" the baby.

LOL I guess I should be grateful that at least they did put the tipline on there. Has anyone checked to see if the number is correct?

They think she's alive and have no idea who took her. Why would they say I believe someone may have harmed her?:waitasec:

 

[mysteriew]

There are two different websites. Note the differences in the url

http://findbabylisa.com/ attorney site

http://www.findlisa.com/ unknown contributor. lol I actually kinda like this site. In the about section the author says she is not affiliated with anyone in the case. The only thing I don't like about this case is the person doesn't list the tipline prominently. Though I did find it posted in the about page. I would think that would be paramount if your only motive was that you wanted the baby found.

 

[Karmaa]

BBM. Link, please. Thank you.

United States v. Gonzalez, 969 F.2d 999,1002 (11th Cir.1996)
Ortega v. Christian. 85 F.3d 1521,1525 (11th Cir. 1996)
Skop. 485 F.3d at 1137
Dahl v. Holley. 312F.3d 1228,1235 (11th Cir. 2002)

 

[carole]

Thank you. After 16 - 17 hours, I must admit I'm surprised and confused by how little was taken. I'm also surprised they didn't take the carpet or flooring. No bedding from Lisa's room? Nothing taken from the backyard? Nothing from the shed? No bedding from the master bedroom? None of DB's or JI's clothing? No baby products? Were the items taken located in the master bedroom?

Do we have any attorneys here who can explain if this makes any sense? Would LE have another return/receipt that we are not privy to ? Can they go in again? If so, do they need another search warrant?

BBM

The document filed on Friday is State's Motion to Seal Court Records - http://media2.nbcactionnews.com/NWT/pdf/20111021_irwinwarrant.pdf

This is to keep evidence that was found on Wed. from being leaked to media, etc. The several items were listed, I suppose, to show the court that there was evidence collected. In my opinion, there is much, much, much more evidence that was obtained on Wed.

I watched the live feed and there were many bags of evidence taken from the house and many x rays of the inside of the house taken.

ETA - I am not a lawyer.

 

[mysteriew]

Thanks for your reply. I don't believe that the dog "hit" on the floor itself. It had to be the carpet or something lying on the floor. LE wrote "in an area of the floor" because they didn't want to release a specific location or object of the dogs "hit" to the public.

Someone in another thread suggested that maybe there were two carpets in the bedroom, one on top of the other. That maybe the carpet in the shed used to be in the bedroom.

 

[mysteriew]

They think she's alive and have no idea who took her. Why would they say I believe someone may have harmed her?:waitasec:

Poor wording on my part.

Sometimes there are people who may call the tipline and say I think I know who harmed baby XXX and give a name. But according to the tipline they are only interested in people who actually see baby Lisa.

 

[nursebeeme]

http://findbabylisa.com/

this is the lawyer's website... any others with the combination of baby and lisa, etc.. are not the same..

just bumping this up.

 

[Angleena]

Thank you. After 16 - 17 hours, I must admit I'm surprised and confused by how little was taken. I'm also surprised they didn't take the carpet or flooring. No bedding from Lisa's room? Nothing taken from the backyard? Nothing from the shed? No bedding from the master bedroom? None of DB's or JI's clothing? No baby products? Were the items taken located in the master bedroom?

Do we have any attorneys here who can explain if this makes any sense? Would LE have another return/receipt that we are not privy to ? Can they go in again? If so, do they need another search warrant?

I am not a lawyer.

But some items do not have to be listed on the warrant return. A few items that wouldn't have to be listed are lose hair strands, fibers, and fingerprint lifts. I think they spent a great deal of their time digging in the back yard and taking x-rays inside the house.

 

[cachmo]

If the web site is to find baby Lisa IMO there would be less of who did what wrong and more about LISA.JMO

 

[Angleena]

Someone in another thread suggested that maybe there were two carpets in the bedroom, one on top of the other. That maybe the carpet in the shed used to be in the bedroom.

It didn't appear to me that LE treated that carpet as if it were a critical piece of evidence. My thoughts are that it was carpeting that was rolled up in the shed or garage that was brought out to the driveway and unrolled to see if something had been rolled up inside it. I can see why they would be interested in a rolled piece of carpet, many things can be hidden inside a roll of carpet, including a body. moo

 

[Boytwnmom]

while refusing to TALK to the interviewer who's taking us on a tour of the damn house-who cares? All I can think, cynically, is licensing fees for the video. So, it's on at least two networks and we get a "tour" of the house but no words from the parents about their daughter or pleading for their daughter....hinky is an understatement.

And the attorney's...please. JT says not to get focused on "details" like the cadaver hit and the woman says there was no hit and I guess the police are just big fat liars. The lawyers for innocent parents would be saying how their clients were hysterical over that news. Since they supposedly don't know what happened and since she didn't see her child from 6:40 on how the hootin heck could they know that their child wasn't killed in the room.

If these people are completely innocent they should sue these lawyers for malpractice.

afaik, the family has never returned to the house to spend the night but they have been there to allow reporters in, etc.

 

[Wendy101]

She's not the only one who has questions about the cadaver dog "hit". There is no excuse at all for LE to have not taken the carpet where the hit was. None. Even if there was a rug over it. Even if the hit was on an object on the floor. They would have taken the carpet, or at least the part of it that was under and around the hit. So, why didn't they take it? Maybe because they knew the cadaver dog hit was a false positive? (Or maybe because the dog never actually hit there?)

And, no - it's not likely that LE took the carpet and replaced it with other carpet. They do not do that on a search. They do not fix their messes.

Just bouncing off your post.

I was thinking maybe the "hit" was not on a carpet but a blanket that was on the floor near the parents bed... in this situation, wouldn't they just have to photograph the scene, and collect the blanket?

Just wondering, did the LE say the dog hit onthe carpet???

 

[strach304]

Ohhhhh, is THAT what she's doing? Because I was under the impression that defense attorneys are in the business of keeping their clients from winding up in jail, and not in the business of bringing home missing children.

Finding Lisa alive would accomplish that. Win, win situation.

 

[strach304]

Just bouncing off your post.

I was thinking maybe the "hit" was not on a carpet but a blanket that was on the floor near the parents bed... in this situation, wouldn't they just have to photograph the scene, and collect the blanket?

Just wondering, did the LE say the dog hit onthe carpet???

An area of the floor by the parents bed.

 

[Abby Normal]

OR one dog hit on it and the second round of dogs (the double checkers) did not. Or they took the carpet and whomever laid it left the previous carpet down as the pad (to save money, etc) because the carpet that was there was not tacked in at the doorway. Maybe it was that way before, I can't know.

There are million and one possibilities. I personally do not feel that LE lied... maybe it's naive, but especially with the FBI there I have some amount of respect and faith in the process.

I believe that at the end of this, when more science is released, we will all have a clearer understanding of whether or not one of the parents were involved. Until then all we have is gut feelings, theories and speculation.