Leonard Padilla and Tim Miller on Scared Monkey Radio - 10/10/08

[Elphaba]

Somehow I don't think a case of a mother murdering her child and hiding the body is supposed to be entertaining.

Amen...

 

[magic-cat]

Mr. Padilla has done nothing that ALL of us here have not done-worked up new theories from the evidence as it has become available to us. We have thrown around some pretty far out there ideas and these ideas have involved various players. Why is it that HE gets judged so harshly for it when it is nothing different than what we have done here? I don't get it...Poor Leonard...

 

[MnkeyBznes]

Ummm.....He was not dragged into this mess. And he continues to stay in it by choice!

OK maybe dragged wasn't the right word but I believe he was told 1 thing about this case and arrived in FL to find out he had been deceived. His heart was in the right place. I thought in the beginning that he just wanted his 15 minutes, but after watching him, changed my mind.
I think most of us have changed our theories as time went on thru this case and LP is no different. He has changed his theories as well, but he does have access to more info than we do and I think it is entirely possible some of his theories may show true in the end.

 

[Gaia713]

Chilly, don't forget the "script" story that he changed at least three times.

And how many times has KC changed her story? And Cindy?

 

[Macushla]

I think at this point, it doesn't matter if the father was George Clooney,

Nah, I don't think she is George Clooney's type

 

[Chilly Willy]

Did I say he was?

You said that he did not insert himself into this case and yet you agree that it was his choice to get involved. Whether by invitation or not, I feel he most certainly did insert himself into the case and furthermore, I believe he did it for himself and the media attention he knew it would bring him. He shared any little tidbits of information he got directly from the Anthonys weeks ago. There is no reason for him to be involved any longer - other than his desire for media attention.

 

[Seranade]

You are mistaken and I will dispute it. He did NOT insert himself into this case. He was asked to join by another party who still has remained unnamed. (They have only said it was not Geraldo.)

So being asked to get involved in a case and accepting is the same as being "dragged" into it?

http://www.sacramentorepublicrat.com/2006/07/timothy_boggs_to_be_released_i.php

(CBS 13) SACRAMENTO The attorney for convicted sex offender Timothy Boggs says the state is holding his client illegally and he should be released immediately. Boggs was supposed to be released more than a year ago but the state says they've been unable to find property owners willing to allow Boggs to live on their land. Now local bounty hunter Leonard Padilla has offered to let Boggs live in a trailer on a 60-acre parcel along the west side of Interstate 5 in Natomas. But the land is adjacent to a gated community and residents there say the idea makes them uneasy.
Boggs' attorney says he's been treated and isn't a danger to the public.

Like LP or not like him, you cannot deny that he has had far more access to this family than any of us have EVER had. He has actually talked to some of the principals in this case. That provides him with some insights that we will never have. He has interacted with LE and with TM. He has shown himself as someone who is willing to change his opinion based on evidence provided.

I am not a big fan of his, but he has as much right to his opinions as do anyone else. The only people who have to think of Casey as "innocent until proven guilty" are the jurors during her trial. We are free to speculate all we want to. As is LP.

I don't give a bloody hoohaa what kind of access he has had to this family or what kind of "insights" or "opinions" he has, LP offered shelter to a pedophile and he is forever discredited in my eyes and should be to anyone who cares about victim's rights.

 

[NancyT]

Just because she googled chloroform doesnt mean she used it on caylee.... its just as likely that she wanted it for herself and her boyfriend. that is speculation , as is the sibling incest thing.
So we can speculate that based on her hyper sexuality, need for attention, her many icons involving children with strong sexual innuendo could be signs of a person who has experienced sibling incest.
I'd also like to point out that this situation is different to an uncle and neice or father son molestation etc.There was not a huge age gap between LA and kc and the idea does not disgust me-it saddens me.
Often this happens when children are not getting enough attention and comfort from adult caregivers so siblings turn to each other. And when you think about the fact that children are taught that you are intimate with people you love, it is difficult to distinguish at a youing age where those lines are drawn.
I cant imagine CA having a discussion about sexuality with her children, other than to say DONT DO IT.
Even when JG and KC were engaged she had issues with them laying in the same bed together.
The denial that it could be a possibility by some people here, reminds me of CAs denial, and is the reason why so many victims never see their abuser pay for what they have done.
People just dont want to believe that it happens.
I just dont get why posters can suggest that she may have been a stripper, or prostitute,that she used chloroform on her child, or locked her in the boot of the car, or that she had planned the death of her daughter, that she may have been planning to kill her parents etc but they refuse to accept the possibilty that incest was involved until it is proven with DNA.
Now if people were suggesting that LE or KC were doing inappropriate things with caylee, i could understand the objections. There is a big difference between the two situations.
Oh....and if it makes anybody feel better it can also be classified as sibling sexuality when it is consensual.
Finally, one of the things that made me seriously consider the idea was that there was such a huge turnaround after the first few days after Caylee was finally reported as missing. To me its suggests that KC has something that she is holding over her family, that has forced them to support her now....It could be anything though.we just dont know with all the secrets in that family.
Sorry- i know your post wasnt directed at me, but just had to jump in.

I'd ignore your post because I really don't take exception with it, but I never stated that chloroform was used. I was just tossing out another example that may not have been motivated with regard to Cindy in anyway.

Sure, we can guess what may have happened, but we don't know that Casey killed Caylee out of vengeance for her mother.

As for speculating about incest with this family, you're harming more than just Casey. Lee isn't responsible (as far as LE is concerned at this point) for Caylee's death. He'll someday have to put his life back together. If LP wants to toss the accusation out there, he should at least back it up. He just might have to do that in a court of law one day. It's my hope that he does.

Casey has been plenty loose with the men folk. Any number of men could possibly be Caylee's father.

 

[Chilly Willy]

And how many times has KC changed her story? And Cindy?

And look at how people feel about them.

 

[magic-cat]

And how many times has KC changed her story? And Cindy?

How many times have WE changed OUR stories? Theories evolve with evidence and leaks and witnesses and interviews...a bit at a time. None of us likely has exactly the same theory we started out with. Let him who is without theory changes case the first stone at poor Leonard...:blowkiss:

 

[Gaia713]

So being asked to get involved in a case and accepting is the same as being "dragged" into it?





I don't give a bloody hoohaa what kind of access he has had to this family or what kind of "insights" or "opinions" he has, LP offered shelter to a pedophile and he is forever discredited in my eyes and should be to anyone who cares about victim's rights.

shelter? a trailer?????? ROFLMAO

Not enough information. Is the 60 acres next to the gated community or is the trailer. BIG DIFFERENCE

 

[Seranade]

And how many times has KC changed her story? And Cindy?

What difference does that make as to whether I should trust LP?

 

[Chilly Willy]

OK maybe dragged wasn't the right word but I believe he was told 1 thing about this case and arrived in FL to find out he had been deceived. His heart was in the right place. I thought in the beginning that he just wanted his 15 minutes, but after watching him, changed my mind.
I think most of us have changed our theories as time went on thru this case and LP is no different. He has changed his theories as well, but he does have access to more info than we do and I think it is entirely possible some of his theories may show true in the end.

How was he deceived? He admitted that he would not have become involved if he'd known all the facts - the very same facts we here knew when he did get involved. The man didn't do his research. Besides, did he really expect that Casey would talk to him when she wouldn't talk to anyone else, and did he expect that her attorney would allow her to? Beats me how people keep saying he's so smart. He's certainly hiding it well.

 

[NancyT]

We don't know either way, so I am tossing out the unknown.

I know I personally ask LP on 9/5/08 at 1:48 PM (it's still on his website) to donate the money to Equusearch when LP offered up the money to anyone that would tell LP where Caylee's body is.

Based on how the public treated LP when he came to Florida and put up the bond, then the first reward money for Caylee and then the third reward money for Caylee, I think LP learned that if he made any other donations, he was wise to just keep it to himself because no matter what LP did, someone was bound to bash him for it!

Well, we do know his nephew didn't give a dime, don't we? I actually had more respect for the nephew.

You can say anything you'd like. You can think anything you'd like. It's a free country. That doesn't mean LP gave a dime to EquuSearch. Call me a skeptic, but I like a bit more than, "I think," before I form my opinions.

 

[Black Magic Woman]

So being asked to get involved in a case and accepting is the same as being "dragged" into it?





I don't give a bloody hoohaa what kind of access he has had to this family or what kind of "insights" or "opinions" he has, LP offered shelter to a pedophile and he is forever discredited in my eyes and should be to anyone who cares about victim's rights.

Sorry, just came in. could you tell me what you're taling about when you say LP offered shelter ot a pedophile? that sounds really serious to me and although I've always been behind LP that sounds like a BIG RED FLAG to me. Need more info!

 

[Mysterylover]

Oh Lord, he just said that Lee doesn't want to provide DNA because he doesn't want to be shown as the babies daddy...he keeps saying this over and over, so he obviously has something that he knows or has heard that has led him to believe this...
He also said Casey is nuts, and that she is in lala land...

What is Lee's age? What is the age difference in Lee and Casey?

 

[Seranade]

shelter? a trailer?????? ROFLMAO

Not enough information. Is the 60 acres next to the gated community or is the trailer. BIG DIFFERENCE

Not the point. Who cares if it was next to a gated community or a landfill? If LP offered it, it must have been his land. (Or was he offering someone else's land?) Either way, he gave shelter to a pedophile.

 

[NancyT]

Wow do u know this man? Not being disrespectful just wondering why your posts are so hateful to him? He seems to me to be just another player dragged into this, naive maybe? a little arrogant maybe?? but definately not diabolicle to say the least, imo

Another player dragged thru this? Are you serious? He wasn't "dragged" thru nothing. He himself, CHOOSE to interject himself into this case.

Look at the other cast of characters here (aside from EquuSearch who were asked to search), who among them interjected themselves in this case? It seems to me, most had it thrust upon them with little to no say. LP cannot and will never be able to say the same.

The pedophile supporter! That alone is enough to make me vomit.

 

[Chilly Willy]

shelter? a trailer?????? ROFLMAO

Not enough information. Is the 60 acres next to the gated community or is the trailer. BIG DIFFERENCE

Why does the idea of a trailer being shelter have you ROFLYAO? Many decent folks live in trailer homes. What's so funny about that?

 

[Seranade]

Sorry, just came in. could you tell me what you're taling about when you say LP offered shelter ot a pedophile? that sounds really serious to me and although I've always been behind LP that sounds like a BIG RED FLAG to me. Need more info!

NancyT just gave a link upthread. I was shocked too, as I hadn't heard that until now:

http://www.sacramentorepublicrat.com/2006/07/timothy_boggs_to_be_released_i.php

(CBS 13) SACRAMENTO The attorney for convicted sex offender Timothy Boggs says the state is holding his client illegally and he should be released immediately. Boggs was supposed to be released more than a year ago but the state says they've been unable to find property owners willing to allow Boggs to live on their land. Now local bounty hunter Leonard Padilla has offered to let Boggs live in a trailer on a 60-acre parcel along the west side of Interstate 5 in Natomas. But the land is adjacent to a gated community and residents there say the idea makes them uneasy.
Boggs' attorney says he's been treated and isn't a danger to the public.