Levi Page Show 5/9/10 10 PM ET

[Whisperer]

"Too clean" was referencing what we saw in t.v. The place was stark and cold and looked staged. It was not a place that looked lived in.
When the family member said, "This is the way it was that night, they were referring to furniture arrangement. It was bare bones...

That did not have the feel anyone lived there, no less two adult-types and thw children.

 

[Whisperer]

Good morning Emeral..LOL

....I was joking about it being you last night. I forgot to add my sarcastic smile...looking for post now.

 

[aoibhinn]

RE: Downloading the Levi Page show for playback
Whisperer is it you that has a 64bit machine? Are you running XP or Vista? I see the Levi Page show can be downloaded through iTunes but there isn't a version of iTunes that will run on Win XP x64 Professional. If anyone has a workaround for this I am all ears.

I would be more than happy to transcribe the queried portions of the show, if I can get a copy of it on playback.

 

[elle1919]

I need to listen again, but if this is the case then maybe they got their wires crossed. During this discussion they definitely made reference to the housekeeping abilities of a 17 yr old, so the implication is for cleaning of the housekeeping type rather than cleaning of the forensic-baffling variety.

It annoyed me when I listened and I waited for someone to make the correction, but nobody did. To think we are this far down the road and 'experts' in the case are still spouting half-truths is very unhelpful and feeds unnecessarily into the rumour mill.

bold by me....exactly what I meant to say!

 

[snowshuze]

<running around like crazy shoring up my alibi for last evening>

 

[Whisperer]

Snipped:
LP also said Law Enforcement confirmed without a doubt that it would have been impossible for RC to have left work on February 9 2009. So why not quote his source on whether or not RC passed a polygraph like he did with that statement? Instead we hear "on good authority". Big difference there in my opinion.

I am not as familiar as most of you are with LP, AH, Levi, PB etc. However, I did feel that on Levi's show last night, LP chose his words carefully. He could have said LE was his source re the poly results, but he did not. I appreciated Levi asking LP for clarification a few minutes later. The guest who was most distracting to me was SMc. And that has nothing to do with her opinions which I would find much more interesting if she would leave the high-strung emotional tones out of her analysis while on air.

He couldn't say LE was the source even if it was because he would be fried. If it was LE, they want it leaked...and this is how it happens

 

[Whisperer]

P. Poppen said the Altima was there that evening - there is a video of him on Jax4 I believe saying the Altima was there, that is how he knew Misty was home so he said.

Charlie....this is huge. Thank You. I thought that is what I recall him saying also.

 

[snowshuze]

I seem to recall Misty saying something about "bleach cleaning" but I'm not sure when this was or in what context. I remember thinking that this was weird and and wondered if Misty thought of this on her own or had someone suggested that she clean the mh with bleach. Not a good idea to use a lot of bleach around small children, imo.

I think Misty says "bleach cleaning" in the 911 call.

Near the beginning, answering the question "When did you last see her".
http://www.news4jax.com/download/2009/0211/18686377.mp3

 

[aoibhinn]

I think Misty says "bleach cleaning" in the 911 call.

I'm not sure about that. I wonder have I got the entire transcript? This is the only reference I can find to the word cleaning, and I can find no mention of bleach.

From 911 transcript:

911: &#8220;OK when did you last see her?&#8221;

Misty Croslin: &#8220;Um, we like just, you know&#8230;it was about 10 o&#8217;clock- she was sleeping- I was cleaning&#8230;

911: &#8220;OK- how old is your daughter?&#8221;

Misty Croslin: &#8220;She&#8217;s five&#8221;

 

[lonetraveler]

(BBM)
I DO REMEMBER in the beginning, TN stating in an interview, that LE had 'tore the place apart' on the second day (with a search warrant) and that she and GGMS went in and 'straightened' up the trailer.

I don't remember hearing about MC cleaning in the beginning. In fact, I can't even 'picture' that in my mind. She seems too removed from the whole idea of 'cleaning' anything, for any reason. Hence, probably why she called ToC & JO over. They probably did the cleaning up for her.

JMO

In the 911 call Misty stated to the 911 operator that she had been "bleach cleaning". I thought that suspicious to begin with for her to be talking about "bleach cleaning" to a 911 operator. WTH? Misty tells the 911 operator about bleach cleaning near the 30 second mark. On cleaned up audios it is very easy to hear this.

 

[Whisperer]

As far as I'm concerned LP contributed a bombshell in the Anthony case. He is the one who knew about baez had somebody go over to the area where the body was found...er before it was found. These guys like LP can get informatin the public can't. He also helped in this case by having the video of tommy and misty availble to listen to. If the parents weren't able to get to the jail, there would not be many of those videos or phone calls for that matter...as LP helped people to stay in touch.

 

[cluciano63]

I'm just one of those people who don't believe things until LE says it...especially in this case...so not sure I buy most of the stuff that came across here tonight, at least not yet. I don't think LE would use LP as their mouthpiece, personally.

Just wondering, if LE says it would have been impossible for Ron to have left work (which I never thought, I figured he operated via his phone) could it be because he was never there to begin with? That is the only way I can see it being totally impossible...

 

[snowshuze]

LE and PDM have sat so tight on the "I wuz at werk" alibi ALL THIS TIME, I'm not ready to let go of the possibility he wasn't there the whole shift.

 

[Baznme]

I need to listen again, but if this is the case then maybe they got their wires crossed. During this discussion they definitely made reference to the housekeeping abilities of a 17 yr old, so the implication is for cleaning of the housekeeping type rather than cleaning of the forensic-baffling variety.

It annoyed me when I listened and I waited for someone to make the correction, but nobody did. To think we are this far down the road and 'experts' in the case are still spouting half-truths is very unhelpful and feeds unnecessarily into the rumour mill.

That's why I think it's confusing. One goes with the other. If you are wiping down a "crime scene" for any possible evidence, it stands to reason that this was purposefully done for that alone, not for the housekeeping end of it. In other words, it was done so well......it was "too clean".

 

[tlcya]

I'm just one of those people who don't believe things until LE says it...especially in this case...so not sure I buy most of the stuff that came across here tonight, at least not yet. I don't think LE would use LP as their mouthpiece, personally.

Just wondering, if LE says it would have been impossible for Ron to have left work (which I never thought, I figured he operated via his phone) could it be because he was never there to begin with? That is the only way I can see it being totally impossible...

BBM ITA. If I don't see it within quotes or hear it on video coming from LE mouth I take is as speculation and give it that weight. Not that I am against specualtion, blessed be, that's all we do here, lol. But I don't give LP statements any more weight than say gramma flora holler or anyone else who is not in an Official Capacity.

 

[Whisperer]

RE: Downloading the Levi Page show for playback
Whisperer is it you that has a 64bit machine? Are you running XP or Vista? I see the Levi Page show can be downloaded through iTunes but there isn't a version of iTunes that will run on Win XP x64 Professional. If anyone has a workaround for this I am all ears.

I would be more than happy to transcribe the queried portions of the show, if I can get a copy of it on playback.

Thank you so much..that is so nice of you to offer like that. I am okay, I can listen to Levi w/o problem. I have windows 7 and x64 bit. but the problem is with any video with Adobe Flash because they haven't produced a version yet for 64 bit. I didn't know ITunes has similiar problem. A member here told me I can access the 32 bit on this puter...have to figure that one out...lol

Thanks again. :dance:

 

[epiphany]

It was SMc on Levi's show last night who, while trying to back up her opinion that the homicide could have occurred before Ron left for work, stated, "Look at the photos." She had stated that if the homicide occurred before R/work that M had enough time to clean up (the MH). Then SMc referencing the "photos" says that the MH doesn't look like a 17 year old's housekeeping abilities.

Beginning at about 40:20 on Levi S Tape.

 

[elle1919]

He couldn't say LE was the source even if it was because he would be fried. If it was LE, they want it leaked...and this is how it happens

well he did say it was LE on the source that RC couldn't leave work, and then he said he had it on good authority that they all either failed or had inconclusive LDT results.

In my opinion if the father of a missing child failed his LDT very early on in the investigation then we would have heard that information back then. This is where the LDT becomes a useful tool in an investigation. We have some cases to fall back on as proof that LE will leak LDT results to put pressure on potential suspects. Susan Smith, Drew Peterson, Raymond Clark, Darin Routier, ....I am sure we could each add on our own names that we remember.

I don't know if RC passed or not, he could have passed it while still being involved for all I know. All I am saying is i have my doubts that LP knows anything on "good authority". I think he is getting much of his info from The Croslin's themselves and I don't need a LDT to persuade me of their guilt or innocence. JMO

 

[Whisperer]

BBM ITA. If I don't see it within quotes or hear it on video coming from LE mouth I take is as speculation and give it that weight. Not that I am against specualtion, blessed be, that's all we do here, lol. But I don't give LP statements any more weight than say gramma flora holler or anyone else who is not in an Official Capacity.

In this case, there would be a problem with that procedure. LE has mislead us quite a few times unless it is true. They told the media the first call came in 2:13am. Official Capacity in this case is an entirely different matter....first time I had to get out the kosher box of salt in a case.

I have no problem believing rc didn't do too well on a poly. When rc said he passed with "flying colors", I knew we were in for a bumpy ride.

 

[Zoe Bogart]

I wish there was someway of listening to blogradio programs on a regular media player with pause and rewind capabilities.

I open the programs in my Windows Media Player and can go back and forth with ease when I listen to the show at a different time than when it's live. I'm always pausing because I don't like to miss anything when I have to step away. It works like a charm. Believe me, I have to listen several times to the same section.