Live MSM coverage on Baby Lisa 20 October 2011

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I agree that something happened inside the home but I'm stuck on how DB would have gotten a dead baby out of there with no car.

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Can't help thinking the wine buying brother came back to help....
 
Well, it was early on in the case. The parents drove out to where LE was searching the woods near the house. There was a confrontation and they left, and IIRC, that was when the parents stopped cooperating with LE.

I remember that. Even JI got animated in the sense that he was talking with his hands and arms. The jist I got was that DB and JI were upset that they were searching the woods instead of following up on the tip. Hmmmm

The video is in Shelby's timeline.
 
Can't help thinking the wine buying brother came back to help....


Rumor alert...Was it here that a rumor had been reported that stated that the call that was sent at 2:30 was a text coming in saying" Ready when you are?"

It might have been in the comments after one of the articles...it was a rumor only and certainly disappeared quickly.
 
Seeing it bigger in PS- I no longer say tablet. It's shorter than I thought seeing it at first. It is closer to a GPS size, but it's obviously not a GPS. So I give up, because I don't really know why I'm trying to figure it out :waitasec:

I need sleep.

Maybe a nintendo ds ? The newer versions have cameras ?
 
Panthera: There was a car there. She just wasn't licensed to drive it. Doesn't mean she didn't.
 
Lawyers for a Northland couple pushed back hard against police Thursday for saying their clients have stopped cooperating in the search for their missing 11-month-old daughter.

..........





O’Brien, a law professor who briefly represented the couple during the Oct. 8 interview,.....

O’Brien works with the Innocence Project at the University of Missouri-Kansas City............

“To (police), refusing to cooperate means not wanting to sign a confession,” said Sean O’Brien, one of the attorneys...........







Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/20/3220223/baby-lisas-lawyers-say-police.html#ixzz1bOBGyS5j



informative quote from this article:

Thus far, according to Short, the couple has allowed police to:

Take their computer; call an Amber Alert, knowing that it would bring federal investigators into the case; take their other two children for forensic interviews; have the complete run of their home, their vehicles, a shed and a pop-up camper; take DNA and other biological evidence; obtain Lisa’s medical records, including those for well-baby visits; and conduct a polygraph examination on Bradley.

The couple also receives five or six calls a day from investigators, said Short, who estimated that Bradley and Irwin each have spent about 40 hours answering police questions since Lisa disappeared.

Read more: http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/20/3220223/baby-lisas-lawyers-say-police.html#ixzz1bOGmeqsG
 
Rumor alert...Was it here that a rumor had been reported that stated that the call that was sent at 2:30 was a text coming in saying" Ready when you are?"

It might have been in the comments after one of the articles...it was a rumor only and certainly disappeared quickly.

I'm pretty sure it was here, as I recall reading it, and I don't get time to read the comments in articles.
 
I had asked earlier about Dr. Drew announcing that he would have a family member on the next night and it never happened. But he did say this, which I had posted earlier:

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/1110/19/ddhln.01.html



Wonder if this is the same family member that was supposed to be on the show that night?

I wonder who this family member is because this person seemed to have said a lot to Dr. Drew about their family. And if it's true, often the apple doesn't fall far from the tree, does it?


I had heard about this as well and felt like it did suggest a background that could explain something bad happening to Lisa..... not because of genetics, but because certain sorts of events can cause psychological damage that travels down generations. I wonder if the relative was DB's uncle who it seems has a bit to say?
 
IMO NG and JVM and her psychologist and her friends from Ft Bragg are the ones seeking attention. It is their job (NG and JVM) however they make to many mistakes for me to feel they have credibility. They are looking for ratings. They could care less what kind of crap they stir up or who they hurt in the process. I have no respect for them at all and don't watch them. Ever.
Everything in that house has 'evidentiary value'. A crime was committed. At the very least a kidnapping and possibly a murder. Any single thing could prove valuable in some way to locating this baby. LE didn't say anything.
I believe (moo) that Jeremy and Deborah quit spending their days with LE because they (LE) fixated on her and they (J&D) want to find their baby. I think they are relying on (naively) BS and JT for help and they are the same as NG and JVM. More talking heads. I think LE tore the place up hoping for proof of guilt and they will not find it.
 
IMO NG and JVM and her psychologist and her friends from Ft Bragg are the ones seeking attention. It is their job (NG and JVM) however they make to many mistakes for me to fell they have credibility. They are looking for ratings. They could care less what kind of crap they stir up or who they hurt in the process. I have no respect for them at all and don't watch them. Ever.
Everything in that house has 'evidentiary value'. A crime was committed. At the very least a kidnapping and possibly a murder. Any single thing could prove valuable in some way to locating this baby. LE didn't say anything.
I believe (moo) that Jeremy and Deborah quit spending their days with LE because they fixated on her and they want to find their baby. I think they are relying on (naively) BS and JT for help and they are the same as NG and JVM. More talking heads. I think LE tore the place up hoping for proof of guilt and they will not find it.

I respectfully disagree. I believe that LE already has evidence and there will be an arrest within the next few days. But, I do agree with you on NG and JVM.
 
I remember that. Even JI got animated in the sense that he was talking with his hands and arms. The jist I got was that DB and JI were upset that they were searching the woods instead of following up on the tip. Hmmmm

The video is in Shelby's timeline.

Like most others here, I am tired and not at my best - I've gone through Shelby's timeline and I can't find the video with JI being (even remotely) animated...help, please!!! TIA:banghead:
 
IMO NG and JVM and her psychologist and her friends from Ft Bragg are the ones seeking attention. It is their job (NG and JVM) however they make to many mistakes for me to feel they have credibility. They are looking for ratings. They could care less what kind of crap they stir up or who they hurt in the process. I have no respect for them at all and don't watch them. Ever.
Everything in that house has 'evidentiary value'. A crime was committed. At the very least a kidnapping and possibly a murder. Any single thing could prove valuable in some way to locating this baby. LE didn't say anything.
I believe (moo) that Jeremy and Deborah quit spending their days with LE because they (LE) fixated on her and they (J&D) want to find their baby. I think they are relying on (naively) BS and JT for help and they are the same as NG and JVM. More talking heads. I think LE tore the place up hoping for proof of guilt and they will not find it.

thank you for this post! i agree. i believe that these parents are being completely railroaded in the media. it is actually SICKENING to me. spin, editing, misrepresentation..taking things out of context. absolutely disgusting to me. just get it right! i have seen ZERO MSM articles or what have you without spin or distorted "facts." appalling!

patiently awaiting evidence. :fence:
 
http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/18/3215726/promising-lead-fizzles-in-lisa.html

Posted on Tue, Oct. 18, 2011 10:23 PM

Fox News Channel aired more of an interview that Lisa’s parents, Deborah Bradley and Jeremy Irwin, did Sunday on “America Live.” In the new segment, Bradley told Megyn Kelly she thought police had lied to her to elicit a confession.

Bradley, who has said several cellphones were missing from their home along with their daughter, said police told her a call was made on one of the phones at 2:30 a.m. Oct. 4, when Lisa disappeared.

She told Kelly that she was sleeping at the time and that whoever took Lisa would have used the phone. She said police didn’t tell her where the call had been placed except that it was “close by.”
 
:whistle:

I am pretty sure no one here is planning to sleuth DB's brother, or any other person whom LE has not yet named a suspect or POI in this case.

Just checking in. No one planning to sleuth any of those kind of folks? OK then.

:whistle:
 
thank you for this post! i agree. i believe that these parents are being completely railroaded in the media. it is actually SICKENING to me. spin, editing, misrepresentation..taking things out of context. absolutely disgusting to me. just get it right! i have seen ZERO MSM articles or what have you without spin or distorted "facts." appalling!

patiently awaiting evidence. :fence:

While the media has been taking apart the words of the parents, using the most sensational aspects, etc..(which is what the media does), many cases don't have the issues of an intoxicated parent, which is sensational, video of that parent buying wine just hours before, changes in the timeline as to when the baby was last seen, the issue of LE indicating less cooperation from the parents than they would like, big name lawyers coming on board before anyone is even named a POI, etc...all of the above being areas that are bound to give the media ammunition to make their headlines a little racier. So as this case plays out, the parents (mostly Mom) are providing the fodder for the media to feed off of, IMO.

I am not a fan of ANY media, because of the way it has changed over the decades, but you aren't going to have this type of story and not see some "bombshell" headlines, inferences and stretching of facts. Unfortunate, but reality, IMO.
 
While the media has been taking apart the words of the parents, using the most sensational aspects, etc..(which is what the media does), many cases don't have the issues of an intoxicated parent, which is sensational, video of that parent buying wine just hours before, changes in the timeline as to when the baby was last seen, the issue of LE indicating less cooperation from the parents than they would like, big name lawyers coming on board before anyone is even named a POI, etc...all of the above being areas that are bound to give the media ammunition to make their headlines a little racier. So as this case plays out, the parents (mostly Mom) are providing the fodder for the media to feed off of, IMO.

I am not a fan of ANY media, because of the way it has changed over the decades, but you aren't going to have this type of story and not see some "bombshell" headlines, inferences and stretching of facts. Unfortunate, but reality, IMO.

I agree!
 
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Better?

Hi, LancelotLink!

This is great! Please send this to LE. I will bet you this pic was taken on the on that Monday, Oct. 3. I wonder if this pic was taken with one of the missing cells? I also have to wonder if DB had already downloaded it on her cpmputer. If DB downloaded a lot of pics that day or night, LE is going to know it from the computer hard drive forensics. That would look even worse for her, IMO.

:twocents:
 
Hi, LancelotLink!

This is great! Please send this to LE. I will bet you this pic was taken on the on that Monday, Oct. 3. I wonder if this pic was taken with one of the missing cells? I also have to wonder if DB had already downloaded it on her cpmputer. If DB downloaded a lot of pics that day or night, LE is going to know it from the computer hard drive forensics. That would look even worse for her, IMO.

:twocents:

why do you think that would look worse for her? just curious. :)
 
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