long weekend break: discuss the latest here #114

[LambChop]

The only other thing that came to mind... KatieDDJ and the guest said last week that they've seen jurors talking to each other during sidebars and stuff. I don't remember exactly what was said but they were talking about jurors forming bonds. Aren't they not allowed to talk at all until deliberation? I think I asked that on the legal thread and they said it was not allowed on criminal trials. Any chance that's what it's about? It would explain why JA kept staring and getting JW's attention.

I just want to add that I think it would have to be something HUGE for the judge to grant a mistrial. The defense is going to nitpick everything they can because they know it's not going well for them! I would be pizzed! Not only would that make all of this one long practice trial for her, but it would be $1.4+ million of our tax money down the drain!

Yes, they can talk to one another. Everyone of those jurors have a life outside the courtroom and that is usually the topic of conversation. Do they bond? Yes, most of them do. And it is not hard to imagine when they are sent back to the jury room repeatedly. I'm sure you can hear the groans. During that time in the jury room everyone gets a feel as to who they want to be the foreman. Not because they talk about the case but because they find that someone is a CEO in a company, or works in the legal field, or someone does a lot of public speaking for charity organizations, etc. When it comes time most of the people know they don't want that job but there is always someone in the room that can do it perfectly, or not so perfectly.

 

[Novice Seeker]

:lol: Sorry, I couldn't help myself! Love ya HO!

:blowkiss: you're rotten! :blushing:

 

[Gypseagirl]

Also noticed this Bullcrap:

DEDEFENDANT’S OBJECTION TO ELICITING TESTIMONY OR MAKING ARGUMENT RELATED TO AGGRAVATING CIRCUMSTANCES FOR WHICH PROBABLE CAUSE HAS NOT BEEN FOUND

Yeah I noticed that too. What a bunch of BS!!!!!!!! I'm a firm believer that she will have 23 hours a day in her cell alone (nobody to bother) her so she can think about what she did and an hour to herself in the yard to think about what she did.
:jail::jail::jail::jail::jail::jail:

 

[Horace Finklestein]

Defense can't win so they seem to be trying to game the system. Juror misconduct? I wonder what their argument is.

 

[mck16]

Is there a link to the motion? That link just brings me to a generic page.

On the generic page go to the tab that says 'case history' and click on that. Then enter the defendant's name. It will take you to the page that shows all the motions, etc.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

So if a juror is in a sports bar or something where CNN is playing coverage of JA, is that grounds for a mistrial? Is there any sanity left?

 

[ILikeToBendPages]

I had seen his website before. It does appear that it has been taken down. Interesting.

Went looking for DS...

IN RE DENNIS H.
IN RE DENNIS H.
No. 1 CA-MH 11-0057 SP.
Court of Appeals of Arizona, Division One, Department B.

Filed May 29, 2012.

Thomas C. Horne, Attorney General, Phoenix, By Aubrey Joy Corcoran, Assistant Attorney General, Attorneys for Appellee.
Bruce Peterson, Maricopa County Legal Advocate, Phoenix, By Mary Beth Mitchell, Deputy Legal Advocate and Daniel R. Raynak, Phoenix, Attorneys for Appellant.




THIS DECISION DOES NOT CREATE LEGAL PRECEDENT AND MAY NOT BE CITED EXCEPT AS AUTHORIZED BY APPLICABLE RULES. See Ariz. R. Supreme Court 111(c); ARCAP 28(c); Ariz. R. Crim. P. 31.24
MEMORANDUM DECISION
JOHNSEN, Judge
¶1 Dennis H. appeals the denial of his petition for absolute discharge from the Arizona Community Protection and Treatment Center ("ACPTC"). For the following reasons, we affirm.
FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY
¶2 In 1993, Dennis was convicted of one count of molestation of a child, a Class 2 felony, and sentenced to 15 years' imprisonment. Before his release in 2007, the State filed a petition pursuant to Arizona Revised Statutes ("A.R.S.") section 36-3704 (West 2012) alleging Dennis was a sexually violent person ("SVP") who should be committed to the ACPTC for supervision and treatment.1 Dennis admitted the allegation, and the superior court found him to be an SVP and ordered his commitment.
¶3 In February 2011, Dennis petitioned for absolute discharge from ACPTC, asserting that he was no longer an SVP. During a two-day evidentiary hearing, Dr. Nicole Huggins, a psychologist at the Arizona State Hospital who conducted Dennis's annual examination, testified that Dennis's mental disorders had not changed and he remained a danger to others, likely to reoffend if discharged. Dr. Richard Samuels testified on behalf of Dennis and opined that Dennis's condition had changed, that he was no longer at risk of reoffending and that he should be unconditionally discharged from ACPTC.

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[katiedid2]

Agree. The closer it gets to Trial finishing I am sure we will see more. Gosh i lost track with CA's Defense Team filing motions.

Reminded me of all the comments about motions sickness during the Anthony trial. Baez was notorious for filing tons of motions. We were all literally suffering from motion sickness.:floorlaugh:

 

[Hopeful One]

I don't know but the court is only shown through April 3, 2013 on the court website. Maybe that is why they are thinking only 2 days this week. Maybe it will be updated later to show 3 days. I am not sure.

I just checked the calendar and it lists other trials for the judge on 4/4 but doesn't mention the Arias trial, so who knows.

 

[Really?]

Look at it this way. Everything that's argued and ruled on in this stage is one less appeal in the Death appeals process.

That's good to know, thanks.

 

[Softail]

Yeah I noticed that too. What a bunch of BS!!!!!!!! I'm a firm believer that she will have 23 years a day to think about what she did and an hour to herself in the yard to think about what she did.
:jail::jail::jail::jail::jail::jail:

:shush:

:giggle:

I know what you meant. Guess I'm a little giddy today!

 

[SusieD]

I agree he doesn't look happy in any of the pics, but nobody forced him to snap six photos of JA on his bed before he quickly replaced her on the bed--50 seconds after the last gynecological closeup--and posed for a pic. How would he even have heard of a UK bird? Two fingers up, in the US, is a peace sign. On the sex tape, he raved about her body and the "detail in your p***y," talked about all the shots he wanted to get in the planned photoshoot. Apparently the last photo he took was that closeup of JA's rear end. It's a guy thing.

Both the Probable Cause Statement in the Indictment, and Detective Flores' report, state there were eight nude photographs during that early afternoon session [7 minutes 16 seconds total], six of JA, the first at 1340 hours on his bed, and two of TA immediately afterwards. The defense made two motions concerning the nude photos, in June and July of 2011, and, as a result, two nude photos of JA have been withheld.

I've changed my mind about the shower shoot. Previously I believed he was under duress the whole time. But I can't see how she would have displayed a weapon until he was safely cornered, or else he would have gotten away. Evidence shows he was getting ready to clean the downstairs tile floor. According to his roommate, the floor cleaner he'd purchased several weeks earlier hadn't been assembled, but when he returned home he found it assembled and left in the middle of the room, with furniture stacked on the sofa.

If she interrupted his floor cleaning to entice him to have sex in his office (as she claimed they had), then perhaps she got him upstairs to wash up and then persuaded him to pose for a photoshoot. We'll never know exactly how it went because JA's word can never be trusted even when/if she tells the truth.

I think Jodi may have tried to put the floor cleaner together thinking she could clean the upstairs mess up. But it took too much time (imagine she wasn't very patient, you know after jsut butchering someone) and she gave up and left the blood.

 

[Hopeful One]

My husband took me target shooting this weekend (first time ever - loved it!!). Before we went in, we were looking through all of the guns they had for sale. I thought of the gun Jodi used on Travis so I asked my husband to find one and show me (I wanted to see it in person). We couldn't find one and he said he'd never heard of a .25. He kept saying, "Are you sure? I don't think there's any such gun."

Now, he's no gun expert by any means, but is it not a common gun?

 

[lil_buddy]

Went looking for DS...

IN RE DENNIS H.
IN RE DENNIS H.
No. 1 CA-MH 11-0057 SP.
Court of Appeals of Arizona, Division One, Department B.

Filed May 29, 2012.

Thomas C. Horne, Attorney General, Phoenix, By Aubrey Joy Corcoran, Assistant Attorney General, Attorneys for Appellee.
Bruce Peterson, Maricopa County Legal Advocate, Phoenix, By Mary Beth Mitchell, Deputy Legal Advocate and Daniel R. Raynak, Phoenix, Attorneys for Appellant.




THIS DECISION DOES NOT CREATE LEGAL PRECEDENT AND MAY NOT BE CITED EXCEPT AS AUTHORIZED BY APPLICABLE RULES. See Ariz. R. Supreme Court 111(c); ARCAP 28(c); Ariz. R. Crim. P. 31.24
MEMORANDUM DECISION
JOHNSEN, Judge
¶1 Dennis H. appeals the denial of his petition for absolute discharge from the Arizona Community Protection and Treatment Center ("ACPTC"). For the following reasons, we affirm.
FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY
¶2 In 1993, Dennis was convicted of one count of molestation of a child, a Class 2 felony, and sentenced to 15 years' imprisonment. Before his release in 2007, the State filed a petition pursuant to Arizona Revised Statutes ("A.R.S.") section 36-3704 (West 2012) alleging Dennis was a sexually violent person ("SVP") who should be committed to the ACPTC for supervision and treatment.1 Dennis admitted the allegation, and the superior court found him to be an SVP and ordered his commitment.
¶3 In February 2011, Dennis petitioned for absolute discharge from ACPTC, asserting that he was no longer an SVP. During a two-day evidentiary hearing, Dr. Nicole Huggins, a psychologist at the Arizona State Hospital who conducted Dennis's annual examination, testified that Dennis's mental disorders had not changed and he remained a danger to others, likely to reoffend if discharged. Dr. Richard Samuels testified on behalf of Dennis and opined that Dennis's condition had changed, that he was no longer at risk of reoffending and that he should be unconditionally discharged from ACPTC.

Ugh. Can't even begin to express my disgust. I hope all those people who felt bad for RS see this.

 

[LambChop]

No, I'm right with you. we had "words" last night which ended up being a long conversation. Sometimes you just have to agree to disagree. And yes he's burnt out on this trial and disgusted by it. And I do not believe he thinks Jodi is innocent / not at all.

He may think, as many do, that this trial was a big waste of money. All she had to do was confess and tell the truth. Ask for a bench trial and beg for mercy. She could have easily said she brought the gun to scare him and it went off. Then she just lost it and stabbed him in a rage. When Jodi came to her senses, he was dead and she tried to cover up the fact that she was there.

I just do not get RS saying that he and Nurmi had a breakthrough moment when she admitted it was self-defense. Nurmi had to have known her lies could be proven by the State. It's just asking for the DP. That not the game a defense attorney should be playing. So in that respect I can see someone being disgusted with this trial. jmo

 

[Sunny_In_AZ]

Went looking for DS...

IN RE DENNIS H.
IN RE DENNIS H.
No. 1 CA-MH 11-0057 SP.
Court of Appeals of Arizona, Division One, Department B.

Filed May 29, 2012.

Thomas C. Horne, Attorney General, Phoenix, By Aubrey Joy Corcoran, Assistant Attorney General, Attorneys for Appellee.
Bruce Peterson, Maricopa County Legal Advocate, Phoenix, By Mary Beth Mitchell, Deputy Legal Advocate and Daniel R. Raynak, Phoenix, Attorneys for Appellant.




THIS DECISION DOES NOT CREATE LEGAL PRECEDENT AND MAY NOT BE CITED EXCEPT AS AUTHORIZED BY APPLICABLE RULES. See Ariz. R. Supreme Court 111(c); ARCAP 28(c); Ariz. R. Crim. P. 31.24
MEMORANDUM DECISION
JOHNSEN, Judge
¶1 Dennis H. appeals the denial of his petition for absolute discharge from the Arizona Community Protection and Treatment Center ("ACPTC"). For the following reasons, we affirm.
FACTS AND PROCEDURAL HISTORY
¶2 In 1993, Dennis was convicted of one count of molestation of a child, a Class 2 felony, and sentenced to 15 years' imprisonment. Before his release in 2007, the State filed a petition pursuant to Arizona Revised Statutes ("A.R.S.") section 36-3704 (West 2012) alleging Dennis was a sexually violent person ("SVP") who should be committed to the ACPTC for supervision and treatment.1 Dennis admitted the allegation, and the superior court found him to be an SVP and ordered his commitment.
¶3 In February 2011, Dennis petitioned for absolute discharge from ACPTC, asserting that he was no longer an SVP. During a two-day evidentiary hearing, Dr. Nicole Huggins, a psychologist at the Arizona State Hospital who conducted Dennis's annual examination, testified that Dennis's mental disorders had not changed and he remained a danger to others, likely to reoffend if discharged. Dr. Richard Samuels testified on behalf of Dennis and opined that Dennis's condition had changed, that he was no longer at risk of reoffending and that he should be unconditionally discharged from ACPTC.

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BBM: That is just wrong. How do these doctors for hire sleep at night.:furious:

 

[SusieD]

Including being "unfaithful" to Travis with Ryan Burns himself...just hours after she slaughtered him. *#^%#*!!!

Didn't she tell Martinez "Well, I am single" when he asked her about seeing/grinding Ryan Burns right after leaving the slaughter?

For me that was one of "the" lines of the trial

 

[Hopeful One]

:shush:

:giggle:

I know what you meant. Guess I'm a little giddy today!

Quit picking on people today!! :floorlaugh:

 

[Gypseagirl]

:shush:

:giggle:

I know what you meant. Guess I'm a little giddy today!

:floorlaugh:But on a bright note - it probably will feel like 23 years in a day.

 

[Liebchenmutti]

A tweet from wildabouttrial what tomorrow begins with...

@valaxie No, court resumes tomorrow at 9:15. Grace Wong from InSession takes the stand about the Juan autograph incident.

OMFG. Are you serious? She's just a lady who loves Juan & she's at trial almost every day. It was her cane that was autographed by many others (I couldn't read the names). She's harmless.

How irritating that this is dragging on. Must be time for Nurmi & Willmott to officially be desperate.