Low copy number (LCN) DNA = Ramsey's far from cleared

[Solace]

Jayce,
If you reckon the recent discovered dna nearly matches the prior dna recovered from her panties. Then what is it that is new?

Have the other longjohns been dna analysed just in case there has been some contact transfer? Remember according to the parents the longjohns were fresh on JonBenet that night, also you can bet the size-12's were clean, fresh out of the Bloomingdales panty tube, so how come there is only suspect dna on clothing that was clean on JonBenet that night?

Does this suggest to us that JonBenet was initially redressed in only her longjohns, thus transferring contact/touch dna, then redressed in the size-12's, so transferring the dna?

How come this mysterious intruder only left dna on her underwear but no where else, not a foreign cell left internally, none on her hands, face or head where she was whacked?

What other foreign dna was discovered on JonBenet's clothing, why is that not being released to the press, or might that suggest some kind of indecent group activity?

The dna means nothing since it cannot be shown to be directly linked with JonBenet's death e.g. semen dna would alter any interpretation.

Hi UK,

I think this murderer had some indiosyncracies; namely, removing his gloves to get his DNA on the underwear and the longjohns (exactly where he wouldn't want to leave it, but what the hey) and then he puts the gloves back on for the rest of this affair. He also does not leave any hair or fibers anywhere else on JB - and no semen at all. And no prints, absolutely nothing. Not even on the note and he comes in through the window like casper the ghost and magically floats above the window frame, thereby leaving no traces of himself at all and not only that, he disturbs nothing, not even a leaf. Although Augustin, in one of his weaker moments, said there were leaves all over the basement and showed a picture with a few leaves that had probably blown in and then he also pointed out the footprint, but forgets to mention that Burke had a pair of shoes like that. Then he leaves his ransom note and the flashlight with all the prints wiped off on the kitchen counter. He no longer wants the ransom money or JB. He just wants to leave never to be heard from again and he never is.:bang:

 

[UKGuy]

Hi UK,

I think this murderer had some indiosyncracies; namely, removing his gloves to get his DNA on the underwear and the longjohns (exactly where he wouldn't want to leave it, but what the hey) and then he puts the gloves back on for the rest of this affair. He also does not leave any hair or fibers anywhere else on JB - and no semen at all. And no prints, absolutely nothing. Not even on the note and he comes in through the window like casper the ghost and magically floats above the window frame, thereby leaving no traces of himself at all and not only that, he disturbs nothing, not even a leaf. Although Augustin, in one of his weaker moments, said there were leaves all over the basement and showed a picture with a few leaves that had probably blown in and then he also pointed out the footprint, but forgets to mention that Burke had a pair of shoes like that. Then he leaves his ransom note and the flashlight with all the prints wiped off on the kitchen counter. He no longer wants the ransom money or JB. He just wants to leave never to be heard from again and he never is.:bang:

Solace,
Hey there, Gloves what Gloves? Oh he took them off to use the flashlight too. I see, mmm, how about the cord used to constrain JonBenet, the duct tape on her mouth, the knotting on the paintbrush handle, any mysterious dna left here? None I hear you all say, well none reported, just fibers from Patsy's jacket embedded into the knotting and on the underside of the duct-tape.

Like you suggest the culprit must have been a pedofile ghost!

 

[Solace]

Solace,
Hey there, Gloves what Gloves? Oh he took them off to use the flashlight too. I see, mmm, how about the cord used to constrain JonBenet, the duct tape on her mouth, the knotting on the paintbrush handle, any mysterious dna left here? None I hear you all say, well none reported, just fibers from Patsy's jacket embedded into the knotting and on the underside of the duct-tape.

Like you suggest the culprit must have been a pedofile ghost!

Yes he was, exactly that, a pedofile ghost.

 

[Solace]

Jayce,
If you reckon the recent discovered dna nearly matches the prior dna recovered from her panties. Then what is it that is new?

Have the other longjohns been dna analysed just in case there has been some contact transfer?

According to Jayce, we cannot factor transference in.

 

[Jane Osa]

It would make sense to me that this DNA may have come from the paintbrush - it was used to molest her & may have brushed against her leggings easily.

I'm going to assume that the brush handle has not been tested - I assume that because it'd be the logical thing to do -
.......or has it been tested?

 

[Solace]

It would make sense to me that this DNA may have come from the paintbrush - it was used to molest her & may have brushed against her leggings easily.

I'm going to assume that the brush handle has not been tested - I assume that because it'd be the logical thing to do -
.......or has it been tested?

It is hard to believe that anything has been tested.

 

[LI_Mom]

It is hard to believe that anything has been tested.

They probably couldn't avoid it.... no matter how hard they tried. lol

 

[Ames]

It is hard to believe that anything has been tested.

I am still waiting for them to test that "whole warehouse full of evidence that hasn't been tested".....that they talked about on "48 Hours". I guess that hell will freeze over first.

 

[UKGuy]

It would make sense to me that this DNA may have come from the paintbrush - it was used to molest her & may have brushed against her leggings easily.

I'm going to assume that the brush handle has not been tested - I assume that because it'd be the logical thing to do -
.......or has it been tested?

Jane ,

Of course other evidence has been tested but selectively only particular results have been released. Other foreign dna must lead to the conclusion of indecent group activity, although a non-sequitur, it follows since the released results point to an individual male.

 

[txsvicki]

I wonder if the touch dna could have come from exposed areas around the wrists if there was an intruder. Latex gloves don't usually come up and cover the wrist areas, especially a man's. Exposed wrist or arm areas could also account for a possible arm hair being found on the blanket. During that time period a person would be worried about leaving fingerprints and not thinking about their wrists touching something.

 

[angelwngs]

I wonder if the touch dna could have come from exposed areas around the wrists if there was an intruder. Latex gloves don't usually come up and cover the wrist areas, especially a man's. Exposed wrist or arm areas could also account for a possible arm hair being found on the blanket. During that time period a person would be worried about leaving fingerprints and not thinking about their wrists touching something.

Ok, considering for a minute it was an intruder and your point above which did make me pause...how would you explain the same intruder's substantial dna (not touch) get mixed with the drop of blood in JBR's undies?

 

[txsvicki]

Ok, considering for a minute it was an intruder and your point above which did make me pause...how would you explain the same intruder's substantial dna (not touch) get mixed with the drop of blood in JBR's undies?

I don't know if they said the panty dna was liquid or not, but I guess it could be saliva, a drop of sweat, a drippy nose, or a tear maybe.

 

[BBB167893]

I don't know if they said the panty dna was liquid or not, but I guess it could be saliva, a drop of sweat, a drippy nose, or a tear maybe.

If they could tell what it was.

 

[txsvicki]

If they could tell what it was.

Do you mean that they don't know if it was a body fluid (besides semen) or not?

 

[BBB167893]

Yeah, that's what I mean.

 

[robotdog]

JR: She was laying on the blanket, and the blanket was kind of folded around her legs. And her arms were tied behind her head, and there was some pieces of black tape (inaudible) on her legs, and her head was cocked to the side.




on her legs , i never knew that

hmmmmmmmmmmm

 

[JMO8778]

It would make sense to me that this DNA may have come from the paintbrush - it was used to molest her & may have brushed against her leggings easily.

I'm going to assume that the brush handle has not been tested - I assume that because it'd be the logical thing to do -
.......or has it been tested?

Patsy took an art class at the local college,so it could have come from someone helping her learn to paint.

 

[JMO8778]

I wonder if the touch dna could have come from exposed areas around the wrists if there was an intruder. Latex gloves don't usually come up and cover the wrist areas, especially a man's. Exposed wrist or arm areas could also account for a possible arm hair being found on the blanket. During that time period a person would be worried about leaving fingerprints and not thinking about their wrists touching something.

the arm hair was proven to be Patsy'.s IMO it most likely got there b/c she was the one who wrapped JB in the blanket.

 

[UKGuy]

I wonder if the touch dna could have come from exposed areas around the wrists if there was an intruder. Latex gloves don't usually come up and cover the wrist areas, especially a man's. Exposed wrist or arm areas could also account for a possible arm hair being found on the blanket. During that time period a person would be worried about leaving fingerprints and not thinking about their wrists touching something.

txsvicki,

Wrists, why wrists, why not male legs or genitalia, these parts shed skin cells too?

Looks like the dna in her panties came from the longjohns so what were the longjohns in prior contact with? And if there is male dna on the waistband of the longjohns how come there is none on the waistband of the size-12 panties?

Also what other foreign dna was discovered on JonBenet, there must be some since she allegedly never bathed and was in contact with many people at the White's, so why all the secrecy over the evidence?




.

 

[Solace]

the arm hair was proven to be Patsy'.s IMO it most likely got there b/c she was the one who wrapped JB in the blanket.

See what happens when we look at this again. It is just chilling.