MA - Aaron Hernandez, New England Patriots player, charged with homicides #5

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  • #441
Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Locke back they're at sidebar again #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
court officer now says we're in a brief recess #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
jury back from lunch hour Sanchez testimony briefly suspended #AaronHernandez

Laurel J. Sweet‏ @Laurel_Sweet
The defense may be trying to get a single justice of the Supreme Judicial Court to stay Sanches' testimony. #AaronHernandez
 
  • #442
Now on to a new witness...

Laurel J. Sweet‏ @Laurel_Sweet
We move on to state witness No. 20, Paige Aiello, a club goer in 2012 who would see #AaronHernandez at Cure as part of the celebrity scene.
 
  • #443
I must have been taking a break?...

Laurel J. Sweet‏ @Laurel_Sweet
Lawyers for #AaronHernandez seek to block admission of statements Sanches made prior to today describing the shooter.

Laurel J. Sweet‏ @Laurel_Sweet
They argue in filing before SJC to stop it the state will claim it "fits the description of our client" #AaronHernandez.
 
  • #444
Caroline Connolly‏Verified account @CConnNBCBoston 16m16 minutes ago
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In their latest motion, defense wants to keep out statements made by Sanches about shooter days after shooting
https://twitter.com/CConnNBCBoston/with_replies

She ^^^^ posted the defense motion in the above tweet....
 
  • #445
Thanks Katy. I haven't read this yet. So it's his statements days after. Was this even admitted into court?
 
  • #446
Done deal...

Bob McGovern‏ @BobMcGovernJr
Justice Hines denied #AaronHernandez's pitch to stay trial proceedings outright.

Testimony over for today folks!
 
  • #447
I had to share this last tweet...

Laurel J. Sweet‏ @Laurel_Sweet
The sullen expression of #AaronHernandez suggests he's not happy with the score.
 
  • #448
  • #449
Caroline Connolly‏Verified account @CConnNBCBoston 16m16 minutes ago
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In their latest motion, defense wants to keep out statements made by Sanches about shooter days after shooting
https://twitter.com/CConnNBCBoston/with_replies

She ^^^^ posted the defense motion in the above tweet....

Okay, I just read this. I think I know what's going on. During a pre-trial hearing it was ruled that he couldn't say Hernandez was the shooter during the trial, but I think the prosecution is maybe planning on playing the audio from when Sanches first talked with the police describing Hernandez as the shooter.
 
  • #450
Okay, I just read this. I think I know what's going on. During a pre-trial hearing it was ruled that he couldn't say Hernandez was the shooter during the trial, but I think the prosecution is maybe planning on playing the audio from when Sanches first talked with the police describing Hernandez as the shooter.

He may have very well described Aaron Hernandez.. but that was way back in 2012.. He didn't name Hernandez..otherwise Hernandez would have been brought n for questioning at the very least.

This is going to be a bombshell for defence as apparently this witness never actually saw Aaron at the bar or interactions. So what he describes back then is what he recalled..and I'm sure his visual was seared into his memory! He didn't know him at all.. so description that describes him and vehicle ( later found in BY abandoned ) is what it is. At the time it did NOT Help in solving this crime one bit!!

Bradley too will be able to corroborate the fact that this SUV was there etc.

Many want to discount Bradley's testimony .. but I can't help but recall hearing the similar comments during Rae Carruth's Trial,> when Van Brett Watkins testified. VBW was one of Rae's **** friends who carried out the murder of Rae's pregnant girlfriend, Cherica Adams!
 
  • #451
He may have very well described Aaron Hernandez.. but that was way back in 2012.. He didn't name Hernandez..otherwise Hernandez would have been brought n for questioning at the very least.

This is going to be a ombshell for defence as apparently this witness never actually saw Aaron at the bar or interactions. So what he describes back then is what he recalled..and I'm sure his visual was seared into his memory! He didn't know him at all.. so description that describes him and vehicle ( later found in BY abandoned ) is what it is. At the time it did NOT Help in solving this crime one bit!!

Bradley too will be able to corroborate the fact that this SUV was there etc.

Many want to discount Bradley's testimony .. but I can't help but recall hearing the similar comments during Rae Carruth's Trial,> when Van Brett Watkins testified. VBW was one of Rae's **** friends who carried out the murder of Rae's pregnant girlfriend, Cherica Adams!

I think we're on the same page LyndyLoo. That's why the defense ran down to SJC, as they had a feeling this was coming up and had to stop his testimony. That's why AH was so sullen after the decision from the SJC. Darn, I have an appointment in the later morning and may miss some of this!

Bradley will be challenging to get through, but I do think the prosecution has worked with him enough and will be able to re-direct him back after the defense. He will also be sitting there with only one eye too as AH shot him also & left him for dead.
 
  • #452
I really think that sweeper was tweaking on meth or something. His jaw was giving him away. he could not sit still, and was talking so fast, like it was an SNL sketch about a tweaker.

He seemed like he was a big Aaron Hernandez fan, the way he talked about being 'disrespected' over and over again. And he has an open case of Assault with a Weapon going on---so he had personal issues with the cops. Kind of cracks me up that Baez wants to use him as his key defense witness. Wonder if he will get to speak before the jury...

Yep, I could tell right away that he was under the influence of something -- and I alsothought meth, or he is missing his hit and is irritated. He surely acted as if he didn't want to be there. Not the most upstanding citizen, IMO. Rolling his eyes and giving garbled answers, twisting around up there, and just generally not giving a rip about all this stuff. They'll have lots of grooming to do... I would be nervous, nervous if he were my main witness.
 
  • #453
Afternoon all!

katydid said:
I really think that sweeper was tweaking on meth or something. His jaw was giving him away. he could not sit still, and was talking so fast, like it was an SNL sketch about a tweaker.
He seemed like he was a big Aaron Hernandez fan, the way he talked about being 'disrespected' over and over again. And he has an open case of Assault with a Weapon going on---so he had personal issues with the cops. Kind of cracks me up that Baez wants to use him as his key defense witness. Wonder if he will get to speak before the jury...

He was DEFINIATLY on SOMETHING!! LOL!

This Sanches thing - is it happening in front of the Jury?? I got lost there.... :scared:

Thanks for the links to the day's court LyndyLoo!
going to go watch them now!

And :gthanks: for ALL the tweets BUF and katydid!
 
  • #454
okay watching Day 6 -

The two people in the video DA keeps pointing out - is that Bradley & Hernandez? Can't tell on the video.

Also the $20 cover charge!!??!!! :eek: I'd pass on going in there! LOL!

Didn't this guy get prepped for testimony?? He seems to think too long on simple questions! :confused:

Whew - took me almost all day to watch those!

So, from what I concluded there was NO altercation between Daniel and Aaron....
 
  • #455
I just got in and they are on lunch break, so I took a look at the tweets. They did play that recorded interview. I feel bad for this witness. He was in the middle of being shot at, his friends died. Now he has to testify in court. His English has improved over these five years, but there is still that comprehension barrier which I'm sure increases under pressure. He really doesn't like Baez.

Laurel J. Sweet‏ @Laurel_Sweet
The day after his friends died in front of him, Gomes-Sanches gave a recorded interview to @bostonpolice. #AaronHernandez

Laurel J. Sweet‏ @Laurel_Sweet
Haggan plays tape on which Sanches describes the shooter as a white male wearing a black ball cap with a design on front. #AaronHernandez

Laurel J. Sweet‏ @Laurel_Sweet
As Haggan presses Sanches on whether shooter was white, he replies, "Just like him." #AaronHernandez attorney Jose Baez jumps to his feet.

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Sanches IDs 4Runner pic: the same car that night #AaronHernandez

Laurel J. Sweet‏ @Laurel_Sweet
As Baez begins his cross, Sanches refuses to look at him. #AaronHernandez

Cathy‏ @courtchatter
#AaronHernandez - Baez on cross: Good morning Mr. Sanches. Hello? I'm over here. (Sanches doesn't want to look at him)

Laurel J. Sweet‏ @Laurel_Sweet
Sanches tells Baez @bostonpolice were at murder scene when he was covered in blood, but "nobody paid any attention to me." #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Sanches says he was "in a panic" refused to provide his name to officers at scene #AaronHernandez
 
  • #456
okay watching Day 6 -

The two people in the video DA keeps pointing out - is that Bradley & Hernandez? Can't tell on the video.

Also the $20 cover charge!!??!!! :eek: I'd pass on going in there! LOL!

Didn't this guy get prepped for testimony?? He seems to think too long on simple questions! :confused:

Whew - took me almost all day to watch those!

So, from what I concluded there was NO altercation between Daniel and Aaron....

It probably was Bradley and Hernandez they were pointing out, hard to tell on that video. Sanches first language is not English, so I think his delay in answering stuff is a compression problem and wouldn't think anything more of it. There didn't appear to be any altercation between the two, other than spilling a drink on AH (the prosecution says).
 
  • #457
Thanks for those twwets BUF and your reply to my post!

:wave:
 
  • #458
I don't think it has been proven there was no spilled drink incident. All we saw so far was the bouncers testimony and the video of SOME of the time they were there.
I think Bradley might have an answer for when and where the drink incident happened. There was no altercation or loud backlash---at the time. JMO
 
  • #459
As soon as the trial resumed after lunch... sidebar! Sanchez seems to have a bit of an attitude today... or he just hates Baez.

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
jurors being taken out; looks like arguments are coming #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Sanches momentarily excused #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Locke 2 Baez: u asked about a hand sign #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
pic on monitor of Sanches's insta, making hand symbol w/fingers raised #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Baez: his accts have "various photos of him [making] specific signal" #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Baez: witnesses to Fla. shooting of Bradley making same hand symbol in fotos on their accounts #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Baez: state will call someone making same symbol they think he was in the car w/Bradley during Fla. shooting #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Baez: state will call Det Cummings who noted CVO involvement "Cape Verdean Outlaws" gang #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Baez: made thru interviews that they considered as to whether Sanches "may have been involved with the Cape Verdean Outlaws"

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Haggan: DT told him it was a "complete rumor" "certainly... not from a source" Baez: early BPD statement poss gang related then recanted.


3m
Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Locke asks which expert witness will interpret gang symbols? Baez doesn't have name, searching recs at def table #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Locke: u don't have a witness #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Locke: u told me u had a witness who will interpret gang signs A: i did not say that specifically #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Baez: we're in a search for the truth .... law enforcement has pursued this issue #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Locke: i will tell u sir i have every right to rely on the statements that either side gives #AaronHernandez


1m
Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Locke: will u est that Fla witness has connection w/Sanches or the deceased A: can't make that representation #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Locke: u can't just throw things out to smear a witness #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Locke: how claimed gang sign tie in w/case? #AaronHernandez

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Leontire: we know expert we want have not yet finalized arrangements #AaronHernandez

And it goes on.......
 
  • #460
Wish we could watch this! And it goes on...

Travis Andersen‏ @TAGlobe
Haggan: b4 Baez can delve into this we should voir dire Det Cummings #AaronHernandez

Laurel J. Sweet‏ @Laurel_Sweet
Locke will allow Team #AaronHernandez to inquire of an upcoming police witness whether investigators pursued the gang angle.
 
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