Still Missing MA - Ana Walshe, 39, allegedly left home, may have been dismembered, Cohasset, Jan 2023 *husband indicted* #4

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IMO the Defense is leaking their closing argument. It is going to be a joke.

They are going to argue that the CW's expert who did say that SUDs is real as their basis for the closing argument.

The judge is rocking this.

The bloody slipper, the hair -- that all came before the clean up purchase. Therefore, violence already occurred.
 
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IMO the Defense is leaking their closing argument. It is going to be a joke.

They are going to argue that the CW's expert who did say that SUDs is real as their basis for the closing argument.

The judge is rocking this.

The bloody slipper, the hair -- that all came before the clean up purchase. Therefore, violence already occurred.
yep
lying to get murder day time out of the house
searches
disappearing the phone
 
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Defense ways to argue that all the CW's circumstantia evidence that they are saying implies homicide all go toward concealment.

I guess BW started dismembering her on NYD in the living room. In his slippers.

The CW will be believable.

The Defense will not.
 
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Closing arguments in the morning, approx 45 minutes per side.
 
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Adjourned until 8:45 am, to resolve any final adjustments to the jury instructions.

Judge: I appreciate the work you've done on this case.
 
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Is anyone a little concerned about who will be doing the closing for the prosecution?

I hope she won’t be using her kindergarten teacher’s voice to be arguing the “murder of Ana” by Brian. jmo
 
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Why does one lie?

They lie to hide the truth.

It’s that simple.
 
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I hope so. IMO he killed Ana and the SUD is BS . But thinking as a juror, can I say 100% that he murdered her without a body, an official cause of death and not knowing his pleas .
If he didn't murder her, what happened?

Is it reasonable that he went to the kitchen to do dishes and when he returned to his young, fit, wife, she had dropped dead? And is it reasonable that he would NOT call for help to try and revive her? Instead he made up a list of supplies to dismember and dispose of her body? Who does that when it was an innocent, natural murder? Why dispose of the body when it would supposedly prove your innocence?

I think one would only go to that extreme scenario if the body would prove his guilt and not his innocence. He felt he had to dispose of her because of the condition of her body.

And his bloody slippers, THROWN OUT BEFORE HE EVEN BOUGHT THE DISPOSAL SUPPLIES reveals the truth, imo. She died a bloody death before the New Year unfolded.
 
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I think there is enough but I am hoping that the CW can hammer home a few key points that leave the door open to premeditated murder even without a body.

AW missed thanksgiving. She was with WF in Dublin then off to her mother's.
Brian knew she was in Dublin and what she was spending her money on because he looked up their *Chase acct. *

12/22/22
Brian requests a 6 hour leave time on 1/1/23 to take his mother home. (3:00pm-9:00pm)
Brian's mother wasn't at his home
Brian begins his murder day shopping at 3:39 pm (1/1/23) and continues through that window of time

AW missed xmas eve. She was with WF.
AW missed most of Christmas day.

12/27
Brian googled WF
he also looked up best state to divorce, best strategy for divorce and DC divorce laws.

12/29
Brian looked up offices she managed that may have had an *emergency*

1/1/23
Brian tells Gem he lost is phone
LE investigation indicates Brian's phone was plugged into a power source
Brian buys bandaids for presumably himself. Thumb photo shows cut/laceration.
Brian spends his requested leave time for murder clean up shopping.
Yes, to all of the above.

Also, he threw out his bloody slippers, which had her blood on them. He threw them out BEFORE he bought the dismemberment supplies.

How did they get all bloody if she just died naturally in her sleep?
 
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So... he likely stabbed her. With a kitchen knife? Which he thoroughly cleaned? Multiple stabs? Is that where dismemberment even occurred to him?

Starting to form a cohesive picture.

JMO
I wish they had tested that knife for blood though. Supposedly it was just a preliminary test for blood but was not sent to the lab for conclusive tests?
 
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Defense ways to argue that all the CW's circumstantia evidence that they are saying implies homicide all go toward concealment.

I guess BW started dismembering her on NYD in the living room. In his slippers.
While his kids were in the home?
The CW will be believable.

The Defense will not.
 
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I wonder if he murdered her in the living room?
 
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Yes, to all of the above.

Also, he threw out his bloody slippers, which had her blood on them. He threw them out BEFORE he bought the dismemberment supplies.

How did they get all bloody if she just died naturally in her sleep?
Yes the slippers don't fit the 12 count of tyvec shoe covers do they.
 
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I wish they had tested that knife for blood though. Supposedly it was just a preliminary test for blood but was not sent to the lab for conclusive tests?
Today when the CW was talking about reasonable inference she had mentioned the knife and that brought a whole flurry of discussion because the defense didn't want the word aka weapon mentioned.

CW reminded the judge about all of the searches that included the word aka weapon knife in BW's searches. All the searches were in the later part of the 1:00 am time frame on 1/1/23.

It sounds as if the judge will keep it as written for the jurors. Obviously all the other weapons were purchased after her supposed sudden death.
 
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I don't think he planned this or there would be evidence of planning. I do think he was desperate. He could not let her leave him. Not because he loved her. Because I needed her. Rather, he needed the children in order to maintain house arrest.

I think it's possible that he tried to wine and dine her (how stereotypical he is) to maintain the status quo.

She was treading water to see how that would play out. If he took responsibility, served a year, that would go a long way to restoring her faith in him IMO. Meanwhile, he was using her to secure his house arrest.

Either the affair came up or he tried to be intimate and she was not having it, and he stabbed her. Badly. Fatally but severely. Giving him a headstart on dismembering. Dismembering was the only way to hide her actual cause of death IMO.

With a kitchen knife.

Those searches occurred rather close to Cem's departure. I think she was dead within minutes.

He may have assumed she was having an affair with Cem, for that matter. Although FW was certainly on his radar.

The Defense was stupid to drill down in investigators shut the lack of evidence in the bedroom. Working for the CW. No evidence in the bedroom because she didn't die in the bedroom.

Limited evidence elsewhere because there is abundant evidence he cleaned up the crime scenes and successfully destroyed the body.

No reason to do that unless....

JMO
 
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@Megnut I agree that BW didn't wake up that morning planning to kill his wife, but I hope that jurors are of my opinion that if you pick up a deadly weapon in the course of an argument that it counts as premeditation. My own speculation is that the argument started in the kitchen, she walked away to allow him to cool off, and he picked up the knife and followed her to the living room.
 
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@Megnut I agree that BW didn't wake up that morning planning to kill his wife, but I hope that jurors are of my opinion that if you pick up a deadly weapon in the course of an argument that it counts as premeditation. My own speculation is that the argument started in the kitchen, she walked away to allow him to cool off, and he picked up the knife and followed her to the living room.
Agreed. And the CW needs to spell that out.

Crime of passion if he walked in on her in bed with a lover. This wasn't that. You have time to pick up a weapon, and that's all the time premeditation requires. A moment.

If the Defense claimed self-defense or crime of passion, the jury would weigh that. But the Defense isn't. So the jury is left to determine whether it's reasonable that Ana died naturally, in bed, and the baking soda residue in the rug and varnish-bare area in the living room and the bloody slippers and jacket are unrelated to that night. But then why did he discard it?

You'd have to invent a story to make these details fit. It wouldn't be a reasonable story.

Jury gets to apply reason.

They've got this.

JMO
 

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