MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #23 Retrial

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  • #381
Sounds like how those 2 families have always dealt with Canton business.
This comment, my GODDDDDDD. Total confirmation and please let the members of the jury UNDERSTAND this statement for what it said. SAID. IMO
 
  • #382
Peter about an hour ago.

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  • #383
I’m watching today’s testimony now, and I think he’s on fire today.ETA: moo
You've got company.
Peter @ LYK said AJ came back from yesterday and "handled it masterfully" and "did a great job adapting from some of the difficulties yesterday."
 
  • #384
Coco I agree with you completely! It was just that one tiny instance in which she was impartial. She gave the jury the same “don’t treat these texts as the truth” statement for both the CW and the defense.
I think she said the text are not to be considered evidence. Which is way worse. IMO.
Because they are evidence arent they? Or nothing, no, evidence is to be considered at all until the jury actually gets the case? I guess she could have meant that but words matter judge and that could good and confuse a jury. Imo .
 
  • #385
You've got company.
Peter @ LYK said AJ came back from yesterday and "handled it masterfully" and "did a great job adapting from some of the difficulties yesterday."

I was watching Andrea Burkheart all day and she was saying Jackson was masterful today!
 
  • #386
Brian Albert has lived in that house for decades. The guy across the street was a retired cop. There is no way JM didn’t know this. She had 2 people within steps of John’s body that she could have gone to but didn’t. Both had medical training and even if they didn’t, they had warm blankets. This woman is evil. I really hope police at some level investigate her and some of the other colluders once this is done.

From the minute they found him it was like she wasn't sure if she should let anyone know she even knew John...just 'a guy' passed out on the lawn, not her sister's lawn, they just happened to find a guy lying in the snow, in a blizzard.

On the 911 call, she acted like she didn't even know who he was, not a 'dear friend' she had drinks with the night before, not the guy she was madly waiting to arrive at that house hours earlier, calling and texting him constantly to see where he was, just 'a guy' in the snow. So much distancing from this very 'dear friend'.

The the very one doing all the talking to the cops on the scene.

P.S. They'll never investigate her, the CW would have to prosecute, and that'll never happen, imo.
 
  • #387
I think she said the text are not to be considered evidence. Which is way worse. IMO.
Because they are evidence arent they? Or nothing not evidence is to be considered at all until the jury actually gets the case?
I don’t understand what it means either way to tell you the truth! Don’t consider them the truth or evidence? Sooo…what are they?

Did she say this last trial? I didn’t watch.
 
  • #388
I don’t understand what it means either way to tell you the truth! Don’t consider them the truth or evidence? Sooo…what are they?
A very expensive waste of the taxpayer's money?
 
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  • #389
I was watching Andrea Burkheart all day and she was saying Jackson was masterful today!
Hopefully there are some sharp jurors who are astute.
 
  • #390
I think she said the text are not to be considered evidence. Which is way worse. IMO.
Because they are evidence arent they? Or nothing, no, evidence is to be considered at all until the jury actually gets the case? I guess she could have meant that but words matter judge and that could good and confuse a jury. Imo .
Lori Vallow Daybell was just convicted of conspiracy to commit murder and texts were instrumental in getting the guilty verdict.
I did miss today's court so I don't know how this played out with the defense and what she did say.
imo
 
  • #391
Are the cops that were at the scene going to testify? Specifically, the ones Jen was talking to at length in the video clips they showed today? I don’t think they were named.
 
  • #392
I think John and Karen arrived at about 12:24 and John jumped out of the car and entered the front door 50ft or so away. Still wonder if BH went outside to move his car, why leave it in the middle of a road on a snowy night. Really hope someone breaks and tells the truth.
 
  • #393
Did your shoes fly off?
No. I had a small cut at my hairline a forehead from the antenna and broken femur requiring surgery and pins. I was a 13 y/o and weighed around 100 lbs. probably much smaller than JOK. I was lucky.
 
  • #394
The defense is objecting and making a record of each and every time they contest the judge's highly inappropriate decisions and actions. Moo.

That's all that can happen at this point, if I'm understanding the range of options immediately available. Per LYK who analysed this situ recently. Jmo
Kind of feels like we’re watching “My Cousin Vinny” and the judge answering the questions before the witness has a chance.

Would be funny except it’s not.

MOO
 
  • #395
Don't forget, the door to their house was UNLOCKED during this whole thing. Was she aware of that? Was this a normal thing for them? If so, one would think that there would be major worry about the people inside the house.
But, nope, she wasn't worried at all.
A guest on Court TV just said that Jen has ice in her veins, and I have to agree.
IMO.

I don’t believe for a second it was unlocked but she couldn’t say they let her in because that would admit that they weren’t sleeping and instead were peeking out watching the scene.
 
  • #396
I think it was @HarmonyE.
I don’t understand all the back and forth after the local has weighed in. I trust them to know the streets of their town better than Google.
JMO

That was me also, I’ve said multiple times here that I’ve driven those routes and streets hundreds of times throughout my lifetime and no way it’d be 4 minutes even in perfect conditions.
 
  • #397
I must say that it feels safer and more comfortable without Paul O'Keefe sitting right up front staring down Karen Read, her lawyers and the jury constantly. I don't think he likes being relegated to the back row.
I missed the facial expressions.
 
  • #398
Can anyone tell me why Karen jumps up and joins the lawyers during side bars? I have never seen a defendant act like a lawyer when on trial.
 
  • #399
Can anyone tell me why Karen jumps up and joins the lawyers during side bars? I have never seen a defendant act like a lawyer when on trial.

She’s not acting like a lawyer she’s invested in proving her innocence.
 
  • #400
Can anyone tell me why Karen jumps up and joins the lawyers during side bars? I have never seen a defendant act like a lawyer when on trial.
LYK has been asked if that’s normal a few times and he says it isn’t unusual.
 
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