MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #23 Retrial

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It is not about the first trial anymore. This is a new trial and new witnesses and evidence hopefully. Too much imo is based on T1.

True but everything that was presented in Trial 1 is on the record and people were sworn to tell the truth, the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Any deviations from their previous testimony is fair game.
 
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It is not about the first trial anymore. This is a new trial and new witnesses and evidence hopefully. Too much imo is based on T1.
So if Karen testified Trial 1 and changed her testimony Trial 2, it wouldn’t matter?
 
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Lunch is usually at 1 pm for those who asked
 
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Lucky said it was a Ford Edge. Brian Albert happened to own a Ford Edge. What a coincidence.

The way I understood it is that JOK had already exited the vehicle. Since the witnesses didn't see him at all, most of us believe he must have already gone into the house.
So did Colin and Kevin.
That family really loves their Ford Edges, apparently.
IMO.
 
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It was brought up in trial 1. Some trace DNA and a single rootless hair. Yanetti openly said it was planted and said ‘The question is, how did that magic hair survive a 30 mile drive through a blizzard?’
The hair had a root. It's been linked multiple times, testimony from Maureen Hartnett trial 1. That is how mitochondrial DNA was extracted and analysed.
 
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The hair had a root. It's been linked multiple times, testimony from Maureen Hartnett trial 1.
The root was destroyed during testing, so they had to send the remaining portion of the hair to another lab for specialized mitochondrial testing
 
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''May I approach ?""
"NO"
????????
 
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If I recall correctly, she testified that she denied being JM because she did not know they were FBI agents. She thought they may be salesmen of some sort.
I never had a salesman at the door who knew my name.
 
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Katie maintains that she is not friends with Caitlin Albert, although she has multiple pictures with Caitlin in both large and small groups. AJ points out that they grew up in the same town, went to middle school and high school together, has Been on both day trips and full vacations with her, and that Katie’s best friend Mikayla even lived with Caitlin in college.
Aaand were back from sidebah. Katie is looking pretty upset.

AJ shows Katie photos of herself with Caitlin. Brennan objecting over and over.

AJ: The reality is, Katie, that your relationship with Caitlin goes back over a decade.
The reality is, you did more with Caitlin Albert than simply go to the same school system.
 
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And now this witness is lying her butt off!! She is absolutely more friendly with these people than she stated!

The person masquerading as a judge is really doing everything she can to exhibit her personal disdain for Jackson and the Defense in general. I really hope something comes of this. She is out of control.
 
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The root was destroyed during testing, so they had to send the remaining portion of the hair to another lab for specialized mitochondrial testing
But it did have a root originally.
 
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Aaand were back from sidebah. Katie is looking pretty upset.

AJ shows Katie photos of herself with Caitlin. Brennan objecting over and over.

AJ: The reality is, Katie, that your relationship with Caitlin goes back over a decade.
The reality is, you did more with Caitlin Albert than simply go to the same school system.
AJ pointing out that Katie acknowledges everyone in the group photos are her friends - EXCEPT for Caitlin. Why? She hasn’t said anything like ‘She just gets on my nerves’ or anything that could explain her behavior.

AJ: There’s also another member of the Albert family that you’ve spoken to about this case. Isn’t that right?
KM: No.
AJ points out that a Canton PD officer - Kevin Albert - set up Katie’s interview with Michael Proctor. BRIANS BROTHER.
 
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The hair had a root. It's been linked multiple times, testimony from Maureen Hartnett trial 1. That is how mitochondrial DNA was extracted and analysed.
Thank you. My mistake on that. My point still stands.

ETA: I reviewed Ms. Hartnetts testimony. She acknowledged that the hair was not affixed to the car in any way and said ‘I don’t know when that hair was deposited on the vehicle.’
 
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It is not about the first trial anymore. This is a new trial and new witnesses and evidence hopefully. Too much imo is based on T1.

Ah I see NEW witnesses and evidence; that explains the lies
 
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Katie is pulling from the JM/Kerry Roberts playbook - she just misunderstood the earlier questions on who set up her interview!
 
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I never had a salesman at the door who knew my name.
Yeah, not a believable statement. Her alarm bells went off. This was an obvious lie imo, one of the many. Jmo
 
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Ah I see NEW witnesses and evidence; that explains the lies
😂 I was actually hoping to hear from more “experts”. More lies idk?
 
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Katie is pulling from the JM/Kerry Roberts playbook - she just misunderstood the earlier questions on who set up her interview!
They all live in Canton and all know who is who on the Fire dept/police dept, EMT's.. and they DEF talk and discuss. She knew who the Alberts were and who was related to who and how. There is ONE fire dept and police dept and they all work together many times, such as this. IMO
 
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it would have been so much easier for Karen to admit she had a drunken mishap with her car, however , that is not what happened...think what you want to but she was in a rage and committed homicide...and I feel like this is what she refuses to admit to and why we are on trial today for the second time.

one reason being that all these people cannot drunkenly collude and frame someone and then stick to a cohesive story with no leaks for all this time as to the truth.

If I am the jury I am not excusing Karen over the piecey at best testimony of drunk driver cops who were completely ship faced in the early morning hours. The people involved created a bad situation by hosting an after-hours get together but I don't think they framed Karen. It's way too convoluted to be a frame up. mOO
 
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