MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #23 Retrial

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  • #161
They’re back. Judge said they were waiting for some records.

AJ now going into phone records with JenMc
 
  • #162
jen's body language isn't so cocky and confident anymore is it? I swear she's shrunk a few inches since she took the stand today!
 
  • #163
She makes herself look so shady playing this game with him.
Jenn for the love of God, just do your best to answer a direct question, use yes or no if he asks you to do that. Why pretend that your current memory is better than it was ?
She definitely come across as having an agenda and her distaste for Karen is palpable.
She has overplayed her hand
IMO
Because the CW’s timeline has shifted and she has to change her previous testimony. Why? Because if KR didn’t kill JOK, someone close to JM did.
 
  • #164
Because the CW’s timeline has shifted and she has to change her previous testimony. Why? Because if KR didn’t kill JOK, someone close to JM did.
100% spot on!
 
  • #165
Because the CW’s timeline has shifted and she has to change her previous testimony. Why? Because if KR didn’t kill JOK, someone close to JM did.
Weird how they all never call John by his name. Only that "guy". Cold and indifferent to their "friend".
 
  • #166
Wow. JM sure was keeping up with Proctor.
 
  • #167
Weird how they all never call John by his name. Only that "guy". Cold and indifferent to their "friend".
How dare you! Don’t you know that’s her ‘very close friend’, the same one she called ‘a man’ when she called 911! For shame! 😂
 
  • #168
WTF Judge C is now asking Jen the questions and giving her answers to AJ. Guess AJ wasn’t going to want a follow-up question or anything.
 
  • #169
AJ likes to say, "in point of fact(!)" a lot.

This is the dumbest line of questioning.
I actually really like it when he says that! I think he is a phenomenal attorney. IMO
 
  • #170
JEN LIED TO TROOPER TULLY ABOUT MEETING PROCTOR. She told trooper Tully that she had NEVER met Elizabeth or Michael Proctor before September 2023. It explicitly says this in his report of his interview with her. But we know she met with Proctor just the day after John died.

She denies this and says she doesn’t want to see Tullys report stating she has never met Proctor. So again, Tully was just a horrible investigator? AJ has led her to a rock and a hard place. Are you lying, or was the investigation bungled and we can’t trust anything the investigators claim you - or others - said?
 
  • #171
WTF Judge C is now asking Jen the questions and giving her answers to AJ. Guess AJ wasn’t going to want a follow-up question or anything.
AJ obviously made sure to get any objections on the record at the side baah. This judge...smh
 
  • #172
ANOTHER side-bah so the Judge can bail out the witness for yet ANOTHER lie
SMH
 
  • #173
JEN LIED TO TROOPER TULLY ABOUT MEETING PROCTOR. She told trooper Tully that she had NEVER met Elizabeth or Michael Proctor before September 2023.

She denies this and says she doesn’t want to see Tullys report stating she has never met Proctor. So again, Tully was just a horrible investigator? AJ has led her to a rock and a hard place. Are you lying, or was the investigation bungled and we can’t trust anything the investigators claim you - or others - said?
But of course the judge is coming to rescue to help JM evade that line of questioning.
 
  • #174
But of course the judge is coming to rescue to help JM evade that line of questioning.
Because god forbid she’s held accountable to her own sworn statements. MOO.
 
  • #175
Jackson's line of questioning is not effective.

Imo, he is wasting time. We want to see ADA Brennan (at least I do ;)) If you watch a lot of trials, you want to see great lawyering. ADA Brennan is masterful, articulate, commands the courtroom. The jurors are listening and paying attention when he is speaking.

Jackson is winning the case for the CW. Jurors still remember how often Jackson stated the other day in court I hit him, I hit him....

Gee... moo
 
  • #176
Really, it just puts more doubt on the investigation. In this one point either Jen Lying or the Tolley is ,but it justs reflects bad on eveyone except Karen . No reason for either of them to lie ,Jen to him nor him in the report. The lie has no reason for being if Jen isnt hiding something. Or LE
 
  • #177
jen's body language isn't so cocky and confident anymore is it? I swear she's shrunk a few inches since she took the stand today!

I think yesterday she felt supported by Judge Cannone on objections whereas today it seems neither the prosecution or Judge Cannone are being heavy handed on the objections
 
  • #178
Jackson's line of questioning is not effective.

Imo, he is wasting time. We want to see ADA Brennan (at least I do ;)) If you watch a lot of trials, you want to see great lawyering. ADA Brennan is masterful, articulate, commands the courtroom. The jurors are listening and paying attention when he is speaking.

Jackson is winning the case for the CW. Jurors still remember how often Jackson stated the other day in court I hit him, I hit him....

Gee... moo

We can’t possibly be watching the same trial. Writing opinion doesn’t make it fact for sure
 
  • #179
Now AJ is talking to JM about her phone calls with JOK the night of his death. The calls ranged from 12:14 AM to 12:50 AM.
12:14 - JM calls JOK - answered - call lasts 49 seconds.
12:18:47 - JOK calls JM - answered - call lasts 36 seconds.
12:29:44 - JM calls JOK - answered - call lasted 7 seconds. JM denies THIS call, although she does not deny the other 2.
12:41:10 - JM calls JOK - missed
12:41:59 - JM calls JOK - missed
12:43:19 - JM calls JOK - missed
12:46:16 - JM calls JOK - missed
12:47:52 - JM calls JOK - missed
12:50:47 - JM calls JOK - missed

Why call him SEVEN times? Also, I believe this puts to rest whether or not the call went through, since the record is showing which calls were answered and which were missed. MOO though. So why acknowledge 12:14 and 12:18 but deny the 12:27 call?
 
  • #180
Because god forbid she’s held accountable to her own sworn statements. MOO.
Fairly sure that JM has never been held accountable for anything, ever.
IMO.
 
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