MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #24 Retrial

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  • #181
I dont see the point here. Nap time!
 
  • #182
Well Wow , he makes good money. I woke up mystified too..
Now I am just mad.
I’m mad too. And sad for JOK’s family. I’d be infuriated. Poor John.
 
  • #183
I dont see the point here. Nap time!
Come on !
This got to be the highlight of a whole career of weather watching!
I cant leave him. I am learning . This probably the most realist science of the whole case!
ETA I hope AJ ask him about how long your expected travel can be on a 4 minute drive!
 
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Who is shocked to know/ have learned that meteorologist have clients ?
 
  • #186
They were hired and paid by the FBI to do the reconstruction.
I'm not sure why to some this is so hard to understand. They were hired and paid for by the FBI.
 
  • #187
I find this witness refreshing.
 
  • #188
Why did they bring this person up, no one is contending that it didn't snow or wasn't cold, what's the point
 
  • #189
I'm not sure why to some this is so hard to understand. They were hired and paid for by the FBI.
Because it does not fit their talking points?
 
  • #190
Why did they bring this person up, no one is contending that it didn't snow or wasn't cold, what's the point
He is getting there
 
  • #191
Lt O'Hara's SERT responded just before 5pm to 34F.

7 team members proceeded to conduct a shoulder to shoulder search. 6 or 7 pieces of the Lexus tail light were recovered from under the snow. The pieces were documented in situ. Each piece of tail light, and the shoe, were photographed and located with a Garmin GPS. This was all documented. Multiple photos were admitted in evidence.

It was therefore established beyond any doubt, that the defendant's tail light pieces were deposited hours earlier, and were then covered by the snowfall, before the SERT team members excavated them and photographed them.

Example timecode 32.12

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  • #192
Why did they bring this person up, no one is contending that it didn't snow or wasn't cold, what's the point
I am shocked the CW called him. I think he made a few points for the defense .Very small but if AJ stays true to point like he has been , it is all gravy.
 
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Lt O'Hara's SERT responded just before 5pm to 34F.

7 team members proceeded to conduct a shoulder to shoulder search. 6 or 7 pieces of the Lexus tail light were recovered from under the snow. The pieces were documented in situ. Each piece of tail light, and the shoe, were photographed and located with a Garmin GPS. This was all documented. Multiple photos were admitted in evidence.

It was therefore established beyond any doubt, that the defendant's tail light pieces were deposited hours earlier, and were then covered by the snowfall, before the SERT team members excavated them and photographed them.

Example timecode 32.12

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Explain how it was intact in the video?
 
  • #194
Sarah Levinson testified yesterday that Matt McCabe suddenly remembered he left his coat in the Albert’s house and went back inside to retrieve it around 1:45 am as JmC and he were preparing to drive Ms Levinson home. It was now snowing more steadily and SL testified she was watching her step as she left the Albert residence because it was slippery. Wouldn’t MmC have realized he didn’t have his coat as soon as he stepped outside? Or did he need discuss something with the Alberts out of earshot of the younger girls?
Matt also never acknowledged he went back in during his testimony in the first trial If I remember correctly. JMO
 
  • #195
The problem with your take is that it treats this case like it’s already been cleanly decided, when it hasn’t. There was a mistrial. The state couldn’t convince twelve jurors beyond a reasonable doubt with all their evidence laid out. That alone should tell you this is not an open-and-shut case.

No one is saying every person involved is a cartoon villain part of a Scooby-Doo gang conspiracy - in fact, that’s a straw man fallacy. What I and many others are saying is that the investigation was botched at best, and at worst, manipulated. When you have deleted texts, late-entered evidence, contradictory statements, and officers admitting under oath they don’t know if their department keeps evidence logs, the issue isn’t just “poor judgment.” It’s incompetence and possible misconduct and deserves to be thoroughly looked into.
How many people have to be involved in framing someone, and that is the language the defendant and her lawyers have used, before it starts to seem quite ridiculous a concept?

Yet the defendant actually saying she hit the victim (before and while at the scene with his body) and then changing it in a documentary while her trial was happening, is thought of as not possibly being suspect? In light of her saying she was never at the house at all and then backtracking that to...oh yeah I was, did I hit him? Her honesty is not suspect?

IMO this case is a tragic and simple case of hit and run and then lying (she never went to the house at all) to try and cover it up...all during a significant snowstorm that did hamper investigations. There was no planting of evidence or conspiracy to frame her by a multitude of people. That's just a ridiculous notion. AJMO
 
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How many people have to be involved in framing someone, and that is the language the defendant and her lawyers have used, before it starts to seem quite ridiculous a concept?

Yet the defendant actually saying she hit the victim (before and while at the scene with his body) and then changing it in a documentary while her trial was happening, is thought of as not possibly being suspect? In light of her saying she was never at the house at all and then backtracking that to...oh yeah I was, did I hit him? Her honesty is not suspect?

IMO this case is a tragic and simple case of hit and run and then lying (she never went to the house at all) to try and cover it up...all during a significant snowstorm that did hamper investigations. There was no planting of evidence or conspiracy to frame her by a multitude of people. That's just a ridiculous notion. AJMO
How many state police officers need to lie,and get investigated by the FBI before you consider they were wrong in their behavior?
Lets not forget Sandra.
 
  • #198
Alessi is sneaky good.
 
  • #199
AJ points out that Canton PD was removed from the interview section of the investigation because their ‘best detective’ Kevin Albert is Brian’s brother.

AJ brought up the lost gun incident from July 2022. LOL. He didn’t say what it was, just asked if Gallagher was aware of ‘an incident.’
AJ: Do you stand by your statement that Kevin Albert was your best detective?
Lt. Gallagher: He was an excellent detective, yes.

AJ allows for crickets 😂
He is was also per his testimony, good friends with Brian Higgins.
So…just spitballing …Brian Higgins I believe went back to police HQ in Canton after he left BA’s. He either stayed there thru out the night or returned again in the am to HQ.
The Lieutenant stopped by the station for gear and then arrived at the scene at 11 am.
Would it be reasonable to assume that while he was at the station he asked what was going on and maybe even ran into BH.
I know he orig said he thought the scene was at Meadows but I’m not sure why he would think that.
JMO
 
  • #200
It almost feels like this thread is being spammed with the repeated redundant posts. JMOO
 
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