MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #26 Retrial

[kuromiiiilove]

Oh WOW! Alessi is saying that there is not two stickers, it’s a reflection. So she doubled the amount of glass estimated. There were not two stickers and glass associated with each sticker. No objection on that point.

Exhibit 133 is up (@Elliot_Alderson, this is showing the glass). Definitely looks like a reflection, and that the ridge of the bumper is causing a reflection.

MH says she can’t tell one way or another if it’s a reflection or not.

There is a reverse ‘B’ being displayed on the stickers. It’s a mirror reflection. There’s only 1 sticker and one volume of glass.

MH says she’s unsure, that it could be a reflection. But she says all the apparent glass collected on the bumper were collected together. She doesn’t remember if she labeled two separate areas, or if it’s a reflection.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

I've been waiting for a picture of this piece of apparent glass. It's talked about but I've never seen it.

Just shown by Alessi on cross.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Alessi is asking whether MH has doubt the reflection. MH says it could be a possibility, but she has doubt.

Alessi asks if it’s more than a possibility. Objection + sustained.

Alessi: You would agree that it’s important to have the accurate answer to that question, correct?

MH says it would not have changed how she collected or labeled the apparent glass.

 

[arielilane]

Alessi on par again, cross is confusing and not relevant, he’s doing a great job running out the clock. moo

 

[Angelwatch]

Oh WOW! Alessi is saying that there is not two stickers, it’s a reflection. So she doubled the amount of glass estimated. There were not two stickers and glass associated with each sticker. No objection on that point.

Exhibit 133 is up (@Elliot_Alderson, this is showing the glass). Definitely looks like a reflection, and that the ridge of the bumper is causing a reflection.

MH says she can’t tell one way or another if it’s a reflection or not.

Wow! Very clear it's a reflection.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

None of the pieces of apparent glass were embedded in the bumper. They were resting on the bumper. MH’s exact words were ‘resting’ on the bumper.

 

[Angelwatch]

Letter B for Baloney

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Alessi is asking how those apparent glass pieces would have ‘rested’ on the bumper after a 30 minute tow. The Lexus had driven to Dighton and then back to Canton.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Letter B for Baloney

Can’t spell ‘reasonable doubt’ without a b and a backwards b! lol

 

[kuromiiiilove]

MH can’t say when the apparent glass appeared on the bumper. MH looks at Brennan, and Brennan objects.

Alessi is really driving this home. Talking about wind speed on 1/29.

 

[keek]

Alessi is asking how those apparent glass pieces would have ‘rested’ on the bumper after a 30 minute tow. The Lexus had driven to Dighton and then back to Canton.

Did he get an answer?? I was eaaaaaagerly waiting for the answer, though she may say, not my department and not sure if anyone can really answer that, but it does put the bug in the ear of jurors. IMO

 

[Angelwatch]

Can’t spell ‘reasonable doubt’ without a b and a backwards b! lol

Love that.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Did he get an answer?? I was eaaaaaagerly waiting for the answer, though she may say, not my department and not sure if anyone can really answer that, but it does put the bug in the ear of jurors. IMO

She’s basically saying that’s outside of her scope. She doesn’t know. Props to her for being straightforward, though.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

MH says she could easily remove the apparent glass with tweezers.

She testified on direct that she located an ‘apparent’ hair on the rear right quarter panel of the vehicle. It was not sitting on the horizontal bumper, but a vertical portion of the quarter panel. She found both the apparent glass and hair and made her notes and left within two hours.

MH cannot say when the hair was deposited on the vehicle.

 

[waldojabba]

Can’t spell ‘reasonable doubt’ without a b and a backwards b! lol

MH is a very credible witness and is answering truthfully I believe.
The "apparent hair" she said she picked up with a tweezers -she picked up very easily there was no "tug" or elbow grease needed. It was just perched there on a smooth surface.
I dont think the hair meant anything to either the D or P anyway, but after Alessi's questioning talking about the weather, about how the car had not been out in the cold etc that day, the impression is that somebody would have had to put the hair there.

JMO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

On to the apparent hair.

The hair is rotated almost 180 degrees in the opposite direction from one photo to the next. MH says it may just be angles. MH didn’t take the pictures, so Alessi notes she does not know for sure if they are taken from different angles.

The angles are slightly off, but the shape of the hair has definitely changed, IMO. One looks like a fishhook, and in the other, like a C.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Sidebar. The day will probably end after sidebar.

 

[Spider92]

I think she did a great job. Very bright young lady. Compare and contrast her to YB. Night and day.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Alessi knew that MH couldn’t answer the questions and didn’t expect her to. He’s pointing out to the jury everything the CW alleges the car went through and still had glass resting on the bumper and a single hair. MOO.

 

[keek]

MH is a very credible witness and is answering truthfully I believe.
The "apparent hair" she said she picked up with a tweezers -she picked up very easily there was no "tug" or elbow grease needed. It was just perched there on a smooth surface.
I dont think the hair meant anything to either the D or P anyway, but after Alessi's questioning talking about the weather, about how the car had not been out in the cold etc that day, the impression is that somebody would have had to put the hair there.

JMO

If someone just placed that hair on the car, it had to be after the car was possibly wiped off from snow, I did notice the dried salt. In the sallyport, dried car and the bit of hair sat there? Was it ever confirmed through DNA that it WAS JOK's tiny bit of hair?