MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #26 Retrial

[kuromiiiilove]

Judge Cannone allowing speculative testimony…

 

[Derph]

Here comes the medical examiner!

 

[DustysMom]

Some months before the murder, while on a trip to Aruba, KR came upon JOK hugging a women in the lobby. KR got mad, and she and the woman had words. At some point, I think the women’s sister got involved too. JOK explained that they were very old friends and he was just saying hello. Later KR apologized to them and paid for dinner, drinks, or some part of their hotel room.
This is all IIRC. Please feel free to correct me if I got any of this wrong.

I think the Aruba trip was over New Years and 1 to 2 weeks after they returned, KR started texting with BH. That lasted about 2 weeks. She stopped texting him about 3/4 days before the murder…on NYE, According to KR, JO was drinking all day and stumbled out of the hotel bar, saw the little sister of the woman who arranged the trip and hugged her. KR, who had been with JOs niece and nephew all day, walked in to see the hug and blew up. She apologized later and paid for part of her hotel room. And, yes, I think she paid for everyone’s drinks and dinner the first night of the trip. Anyone, correct ME if I got it wrong.

 

[Soulmagent]

I think the Aruba trip was over New Years and 1 to 2 weeks after they returned, KR started texting with BH. That lasted about 2 weeks. She stopped texting him about 3/4 days before the murder…on NYE, According to KR, JO was drinking all day and stumbled out of the hotel bar, saw the little sister of the woman who arranged the trip and hugged her. KR, who had been with JOs niece and nephew all day, walked in to see the hug and blew up. She apologized later and paid for part of her hotel room. And, yes, I think she paid for everyone’s drinks and dinner the first night of the trip. Anyone, correct ME if I got it wrong.

I heard versions like this. After I went looking but I have only been aware of this since she came up as a possible witness.

 

[Soulmagent]

The ME

Now I wonder if this why he got a bit shaken.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Last up with MH and Alessi (my stream is a bit behind)

MH performed damage analysis on John’s hoodie, but didn’t do any analysis on what could have caused the hole in the sweatshirt.

MH wants to correct something from the record yesterday???

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Last up with MH and Alessi (my stream is a bit behind)

MH performed damage analysis on John’s hoodie, but didn’t do any analysis on what could have caused the hole in the sweatshirt.

MH wants to correct something from the record yesterday???

Sidebar.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Sidebar.

Uh… she didn’t correct anything post-sidebar, unless I missed it. The ME is up.

 

[Forest_Wood]

What I got from Brennan showing the hard-to-see Lexus in the sally port, is I think he was trying to show how much snow was still on the car at the time MH examined it? She said there was no snow, and I don't know at which time she examined it.
MOO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Uh… she didn’t correct anything post-sidebar, unless I missed it. The ME is up.

So Judge Cannone ruled that she couldn’t correct her testimony. Wow. If I were a juror I’d wonder what was incorrect…

 

[Maat99]

So Judge Cannone ruled that she couldn’t correct her testimony. Wow. If I were a juror I’d wonder what was incorrect…

Oh so I guess we now know it was something helpful to the defense

 

[Wishbone]

What I got from Brennan showing the hard-to-see Lexus in the sally port, is I think he was trying to show how much snow was still on the car at the time MH examined it? She said there was no snow, and I don't know at which time she examined it.
MOO

To the best of her knowledge, Hartnett, said the car could have been damaged before she examined it on Feb. 1, 2022 and the damage could have existed prior to Jan. 29, 2022.

Karen Read trial recap: Jury sees scratches, glass, hair found on back of Read’s SUV

Numerous witnesses took the stand on the 15th day of the Karen Read retrial. Here's what took place.

www.masslive.com

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Oh so I guess we now know it was something helpful to the defense

Right? Haha

 

[kuromiiiilove]

I’m a fan of Dr. Scordi-Bello. She just asked Brennan, incredulously, ‘You want me to explain what an autopsy is…?’

Echoes of Lally

 

[Forest_Wood]

To the best of her knowledge, Hartnett, said the car could have been damaged before she examined it on Feb. 1, 2022 and the damage could have existed prior to Jan. 29, 2022.

Karen Read trial recap: Jury sees scratches, glass, hair found on back of Read’s SUV

Numerous witnesses took the stand on the 15th day of the Karen Read retrial. Here's what took place.

www.masslive.com

Oh yes. HB was asking about the hair she had found, which I believe he was trying to imply the hair was still under the snow at the time she examined it. However, she testified there was no snow when she examined it. Do we know at what time she examined the Lexus?

 

[Forest_Wood]

Why does the court allow some witnesses to use their notes, while other witnesses are not permitted?

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Oh yes. HB was asking about the hair she had found, which I believe he was trying to imply the hair was still under the snow at the time she examined it. However, she testified there was no snow when she examined it. Do we know at what time she examined the Lexus?

She testified yesterday that she examined the Lexus on 2/1/22. CPD employees have also mentioned the Sallyport was heated, so… no snow by the time MH got there, considering the Lexus was seized 1/29/22.

 

[Forest_Wood]

She testified yesterday that she examined the Lexus on 2/1/22. CPD employees have also mentioned the Sallyport was heated, so… no snow by the time MH got there, most likely.

So I wonder why he was showing the snow on the car over several hours on the timestamp.

 

[kuromiiiilove]

So I wonder why he was showing the snow on the car over several hours on the timestamp.

I struggle to find a non ‘nefarious’ reason, as Jen McCabe would put it…

 

[Soulmagent]

What I got from Brennan showing the hard-to-see Lexus in the sally port, is I think he was trying to show how much snow was still on the car at the time MH examined it? She said there was no snow, and I don't know at which time she examined it.
MOO

He would have been better off the let that point go.