MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #28 Retrial

[Malleeboy]

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His information was not out of date, he claimed a degree he did not have, he claimed a degree that does not exist, he did so on multiple occasions. He took 17 years to not get a degree.

I have a degree, did it in three years. No wonder he mistook bits and bytes. I wouldn't trust this guy to understand the physics and maths to understand what occurred in this accident.

 

[missy1974]

Alessi said on Friday that he would need 4 days to prepare for the Aperture stuff. I was not expecting anything today.

Does this mean that Defence got everything done over the weekend and will not claim the 4 days?


The other point made on Friday was the possibility of having to re-interview previous witnesses depending on revised times presented. Would that now be obsolete/thrown out in the light of totally discredited witness?

Alessi is not done cross examining Burgess. It will continue tomorrow morning.

I think, but am not sure.. the 4 days might have been about the other Aperture witness, Welcher?

 

[HarmonyE.]

His information was not out of date, he claimed a degree he did not have, he claimed a degree that does not exist, he did so on multiple occasions. He took 17 years to get a degree.

I have a degree, did it in three years. No wonder he mistook bits and bytes. I wouldn't trust this guy to understand the physics and maths to understand what occurred in this accident.

Small correction. He's taken 17 years to not get a degree.

Dude even lied about what that degree would be called. If he'd actually graduated.

 

[PamCake]

Watching the NBC10 YouTube that LYK was on earlier and they showed some pictures of John that I don’t think I’ve seen before. Really made me teary, he was so handsome and seemingly a good guy. I’m glad I got reminded of that, I’ll admit to unfortunately not thinking about HIM nearly enough throughout these trial days.

He deserves so much more than this farcical and often undignified circus. So many people, from those framing Karen to the CW, should be so ashamed, but we know they aren’t! All IMO, thank you for listening, Crime Family, I have no one else interested, sigh….

Thank you for reminding us about who we want justice for...Officer John O'Keefe.

 

[keek]

I think of all the hiding, deleting, butt dialing, lieing to FBI, you name it, people that were at that house the night JOK died. You have a son of one of them watching and learning how you play it to get away with it. ALL those adults, when he knows. He thinks off free as a bird before he is even 21. Helping to try to put a woman he doesn't even know, facing a prison sentence for his own unstable persona. Skin crawling bunch. Get one of them back on the stand, see how they can be so bold now seeing that the prosecutors reconstruction team is not credible and may not even be allowed to finish whatever they all copy pasted from each other. Input from Tully on top of it. Pretty sure that bunch is furious on top of feeling the ground may be cracking under them. They do not want further looking at THEM. IMO

 

[Leilei]

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BBM
The Defense hasn't even gotten going with Burgess. Just wait until tomorrow.
Burgess was brought in as an expert witness, which he is NOT.
He knew that he didn't have valid credentials, but went ahead and took that money to give expert testimony.
That is fraudulent.
I don't care about AJ's Linkedin, or KR's Linkedin. They're not lying on their CVs.
I've seen two/three Linkedin updates for Burgess, and they all contain what he calls "errors" (he's the one who created and posted them).
I call them LIES.
Nothing he says on the stand can be trusted as fact. He did that to himself, to the CW, and to the company he represents (for now).
IMO.

 

[Seni]

Small correction. He's taken 17 years to not get a degree.

Dude even lied about what that degree would be called. If he'd actually graduated.

We know that if you lie enough and repeatedly over a long period of time you begin to see the lie as truth.

Amazing that he was never asked for a copy of his diplomas over all these years, handling sensitive information for insurance etc.

 

[Soulmagent]

And And And ,see what happen today in court..was... @ about TS 3:23 on todays court fed TS .
The witness who should never been ..said he was inspired to look into this more because he was accused of being potentially misleading.
Now , as I am on a rewatch and I know what lies ahead for this man, this made me laugh out loud.

 

[Warwick7]

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BMM

No.

His testimony wasn't damning to the defendant today.

It wasn't clear and concise evidence.

He had no business testifying as an expert. He is a fraud.

When a so-called expert lies about their education and uses that lie to testify under oath before a jury, it is absolutely fraud. It's counterfeit.

And under oath, he sat in a chair, banking on these forgery qualifications and testified. That’s perjury!

And I will add @arielilane , he accepted money based on fake credentials, well that's civil theft. That’s illegal in every state. It’s not just unethical—it’s a crime.

If insurance companies used his reports to deny claims… And he wasn’t qualified to issue those opinions, well that’s grounds for a class action by affected policyholders.

M00!!

 

[SteveS]

About the nonsense posted above saying LinkedIn info doesn't count, there are several MAJOR issues conveniently being swept under the carpet:
1 The LinkedIn information is not something that was accurate at some point, and then became obsolete because it was not updated. Instead, it was a LIE the day it was posted. It has been a lie every day since.
2 Nor was it accidental error nor was it done by someone else. B himself told this lie, to pretend he was someone (a guy who had worked to get a degree) that he was not. Anyone who hired him under that pretense, as well as anyone he has testified against under the claim he is indeed degreed, has been defrauded by his LIE that paints expertise he does not have, and the proof is indisputable. (If he told the lie in a trial or in credentials given for one, perjury charges are certainly on the way from someone, I would think.)
3 The same LIE is told by Aperture too, not just LinkedIn, who is touting (as of today, still) on their website that B is a college grad, as part of his qualifications as an expert. It says he has a "B.S." (the promising "Bachelor of SCIENCE" which is slyly wanting us to see a background in science itself, and it's in Math [as well as Business] which promises expertise in the MATH discipline). Again, FRAUD (not an error), although B and Aperture would have to sort out who told the lie if they end up being sued by someone.

If you want to see, here's the LIE still being told for the world to see - see education ...

Shanon Burgess | Forensic Expert

Shanon Burgess

www.aperturellc.com

 

[Forest_Wood]

We know that if you lie enough and repeatedly over a long period of time you begin to see the lie as truth.

Amazing that he was never asked for a copy of his diplomas over all these years, handling sensitive information for insurance etc.

The only conclusion to make here is that Aperture doesn't hire "real" experts. Every one of their "experts" will need to be scrutinized now.
MOO

 

[Warwick7]

BBM
The Defense hasn't even gotten going with Burgess. Just wait until tomorrow.
Burgess was brought in as an expert witness, which he is NOT.
He knew that he didn't have valid credentials, but went ahead and took that money to give expert testimony.
That is fraudulent.
I don't care about AJ's Linkedin, or KR's Linkedin. They're not lying on their CVs.
I've seen two/three Linkedin updates for Burgess, and they all contain what he calls "errors" (he's the one who created and posted them).
I call them LIES.
Nothing he says on the stand can be trusted as fact. He did that to himself, to the CW, and to the company he represents (for now).
IMO.

Boom!!
Bam! BAM!!

 

[Warwick7]

About the nonsense posted above saying LinkedIn info doesn't count, there are several MAJOR issues conveniently being swept under the carpet:
1 The LinkedIn information is not something that was accurate at some point, and then became obsolete because it was not updated. Instead, it was a LIE the day it was posted. It has been a lie every day since.
2 Nor was it accidental error nor was it done by someone else. B himself told this lie, to pretend he was someone (a guy who had worked to get a degree) that he was not. Anyone who hired him under that pretense, as well as anyone he has testified against under the claim he is indeed degreed, has been defrauded by his LIE that paints expertise he does not have, and the proof is indisputable. (If he told the lie in a trial or in credentials given for one, perjury charges are certainly on the way from someone, I would think.)
3 The same LIE is told by Aperture too, not just LinkedIn, who is touting (as of today, still) on their website that B is a college grad, as part of his qualifications as an expert. It says he has a "B.S." (the promising "Bachelor of SCIENCE" which is slyly wanting us to see a background in science itself, and it's in Math [as well as Business] which promises expertise in the MATH discipline). Again, FRAUD (not an error), although B and Aperture would have to sort out who told the lie if they end up being sued by someone.

If you want to see, here's the LIE still being told for the world to see - see education ...

Shanon Burgess | Forensic Expert

Shanon Burgess

www.aperturellc.com

Another BAM!! BAM!!!!!!

 

[sapphire blue]

Burgess claiming he has a degree when he doesn’t is fraud, lying about it on LinkedIn is also fraud. It tells us everything about his honesty, ethics and integrity - they are each non existent.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Does anyone think that BC knew Burgess was a fraud when she agreed to let him testify about his amended report without a voir dire and allowed Alessi "ample game for cross examination". I kind of get that impression by the way she said she has every confidence that Mr Alessi can perform a fulsome cross examination. Do judges research experts before they make these decisions for prosecutors or defense? It looked like such a win for Brennan but it was anything but.

 

[Forest_Wood]

And it’s LinkedIn

Thank you for that. Yes, it's LinkedIn. Sheesh. A small but important detail missed.

 

[whitelilac]

Alessi deserves a crate of champagne when this is over.

 

[Warwick7]

The arrogance of Shannon Burgess is next level.

Copy and pasting, YES copying and pasting, in reports used for a criminal trial and just shrugging it off as insignificant is repulsive.

His whole testimony should be struck.

 

[Forest_Wood]

Alessi deserves a crate of champagne when this is over.

And Alessi was so polite and courteous as he presented all of that. Not judgy, just stating the facts.

 

[Seni]

Another BAM!! BAM!!!!!!

Alessi deserves a crate of champagne when this is over.

Goodness, yes! How does he keep it flowing, totally on top of his game. Am in absolute awe