MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #28 Retrial

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  • #561
Timeline timeline timeline - there’s less than a 30 second discrepancy between the CW & the defense
This is Locard's Exchange Principle:
Part of her SUV found at the scene and parts of her vehicle were as found on him
His hair was found on her vehicle

IMO
 
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I don’t know how many people will ‘understand’ someone allowing their company to submit a falsified document regarding their education to the federal courts.

I also reject the passive language of Aperture submitting his CV ‘on his behalf’. Please. It was the same lie for 17 years. I highly doubt Aperture came up with the same nonexistent degree on their own. He clearly gave his place of employment a falsified CV. MOO.
And HR didn't find it in their 'vetting'
 
  • #564
We don't though know what his life was like so your life experience and his could differ greatly. I think it would be valuable to know his life situation before judging.
I haven’t seen anyone judging brennan’s lack of bachelor’s degree, only his lies and misinformation. I only earned my associates degree and would never judge anyone on their education level UNLESS they lie about it so they can become a paid expert witness.
 
  • #565
If Aperture hired SB they either, hired SB without checking any of his qualifications and following up on them, or knew he didn't have it and along with SB falsified his credentials

If I'm the defense, OR LITERALLY ANYBODY who has had Aperture testify against them, I am looking to see what other employees at Aperture don't have credentials and lied in court.

Time to look into Welcher's past

MOO
 
  • #566
No, he said he did not.
IMO
Linda, do you really believe that Aperture mysteriously drafted this man’s CV and came up with the EXACT nonexistent degree that Burgess claimed to have received? You think he had NO hand in the materials submitted to the federal circuit court on his credentials?
 
  • #567
Well, she saw maybe how brutal and have to be so thick skinned and on point IMO.
shes talking about the planted glass??? IT was brought to her, so what can she add to this caes?? Lally is questioning her so what does that tell you? She's just there to take up time.
 
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shes talking about the planted glass??? IT was brought to her, so what can she add to this caes?? Lally is questioning her so what does that tell you? She's just there to take up time.
“Planted glass”
What evidence is there anything was planted, let alone glass that doesn’t match?
 
  • #569
If Aperture hired SB they either, hired SB without checking any of his qualifications and following up on them, or knew he didn't have it and along with SB falsified his credentials

If I'm the defense, OR LITERALLY ANYBODY who has had Aperture testify against them, I am looking to see what other employees at Aperture don't have credentials and lied in court.

Time to look into Welcher's past

MOO
If I’m a defense attorney and Aperture testified in my clients case, you best bet I’m revisiting that, too.

Burgess majorly shot their credibility today. He didn’t want to go down with the ship alone. So he:
-Insinuated Dr. Welcher’s findings are wrong, saying ‘on the unadjusted clocks’
-Insinuated Aperture lied on his behalf in a federal court filing.

So now it’s hard to even believe ANYONE at Aperture is reputable. MOO.
 
  • #570
IMO, this doesn’t matter. He’s had plenty of time to correct any ‘misinformation’ on his CV and LinkedIn.
The CW cannot prove that Officer O’Keefe was hit by a vehicle, T2 should have never happened. Thus far, I’ve not seen any bit of evidence that shows he was hit by a car.
Burgess is doing a great job for the defense. This whole trial is a farce.
Two trials no less.
Meanwhile the party (parties) who harmed and caused Okeefe's death and the individuals present who suppressed and impeded the investigation, are going on with their lives while a convenient and easy fall person, spends some two years fighting a murder charge.
IMO
 
  • #571
His findings weren’t particularly strong. He made mistakes in his own direct - for one, saying the Lexus ‘power on’ event around 5am 1/29/22 was occurring WHILE we see Karen exiting John’s garage in the morning, in the timestamped video that Burgess included as part of his report. How did the car turn on, when it was already turned on and reversing out of the garage?

He also admitted to over a dozen mistakes and ‘misrepresentations’ on cross. He did not have a single person review his report before handing it over. He has no reason for choosing the ‘anchor point’ as the most accurate data point, other than that it most closely fits the CW’s theory.

He showed major signs of confirmation bias and did NO analysis of raw data. He exists, not to independently review his findings, but in a desperate attempt to discredit ARCCA.

All IMO.
I know, right? Once you get beyond the whole lying on CV, and then there's the pesky bits vs. bytes, and then the slides had the wrong dates to which he stated multiple times were accurate--there's still more errors and misrepresentations. This guy's work was sloppy. I'm blown away that anyone thinks he is a credible expert.
 
  • #572
Timeline timeline timeline - there’s less than a 30 second discrepancy between the CW & the defense
This is Locard's Exchange Principle:
Part of her SUV found at the scene and parts of her vehicle were as found on him
His hair was found on her vehicle

IMO
The hair could have been from his nephew. This was testified to yesterday, I believe.
IMO.
 
  • #573
The hair could have been from his nephew. This was testified to yesterday, I believe.
IMO.
Theoretically, likely?
No

IMO
 
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Linda, do you really believe that Aperture mysteriously drafted this man’s CV and came up with the EXACT nonexistent degree that Burgess claimed to have received? You think he had NO hand in the materials submitted to the federal circuit court on his credentials?
Not just one CV, but three. Two with different years as to when he received his degree, and the third stating that he was currently pursuing it.
Aperture drafted all of those? Really?
IMO.
 
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I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the jury to think the Defense Attorney is harping on the resume instead of the data.
When they present their case the Defense will be calling their own data people to the stand - ARCCA - that's when the data will be gone over
JMO
 
  • #577
I don’t think it’s unreasonable for the jury to think the Defense Attorney is harping on the resume instead of the data.
but it was the gift that kept on giving....someone had to do it, Hank didn't
 
  • #578
His credibility will be judged by the jury - I would suspect they’ll view it in context of other witnesses and their conclusions.
The evidence Karen hit him is overwhelming.

IMO
The disgraced CW expert just testified today that she didn't hit him.
 
  • #579
Timeline timeline timeline - there’s less than a 30 second discrepancy between the CW & the defense
This is Locard's Exchange Principle:
Part of her SUV found at the scene and parts of her vehicle were as found on him
His hair was found on her vehicle

IMO
Transfer alone isn’t proof of a collision. It just means contact happened at some point. That’s why exactly 0 of the CW witnesses could say that the hair got onto Karen’s Lexus by mechanism of vehicle stroke.

ETA: What would be proof of collision would be, say, Karen’s Lexus showing a collision event, or the ME determining John died by vehicle stroke.
 
  • #580
Transfer alone isn’t proof of a collision. It just means contact happened at some point. That’s why exactly 0 of the CW witnesses could say that the hair got onto Karen’s Lexus by mechanism of vehicle stroke.
You’re forgetting the taillight pieces
Imo
 
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