MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #32 Retrial

[Warwick7]

No where does it state the DNA for two individuals was blood. It wasn’t. It was touch DNA that could be from anywhere and anyone
IMO.

You take it how you want.
I said that there were 2 different blood samples on JO's clothes.

One stain on his sweatshirt had dna from both JO and an unknown individual.

Multiple places on JO's jeans were analyzed, and some were found to contain dna from two or even three individuals, with one contributor being exponentially more likely to be O'Keefe than anyone else.

 

[keek]

who knows what it means but I'm glad to hear Alessi didn't say it......

Is Brennan when he becomes low brow and nasty to witnesses the same? Yes, visually. Embarrassing to see among other things. IMO

 

[lohrtabitha]

yes a forgone conclusion that the Judge will side with Brennan
But she needs to base it on something ( I am so naive)- so Alessi has to be wrong about it not being introduced ?
Not sure there is any way to split the pie here
Very dramatic but imo very important to keep the snake Brennan in check
JMO

Whatever she decides she must uphold the law. America and its court system are watching!

 

[kuromiiiilove]

Dr. Russell is looking at Welcher’s experiment with the car and the paint. She’s saying what Welcher portrayed with the blue paint would be a direct impact, not a sideswipe or a clip.

She says a direct impact to the arm would likely result in at least significant bruising to the arm, possible fractures to the radius, ulnar or elbow, or dislocations.

 

[ShadyLady]

I am no expert.....but LOOK like DOG or wolf bites to MEEEEEE.

 

[waldojabba]

An honest mistake which she reported when she realized she'd left at 3:45 and the vehicle arrived there hours later. Why wasn't she called at the first trial? MO, she wasn't needed to insinuate shade at B and H because Proctor was on the hot seat and Devers had corrected her interview. No Proctor this time, lets move on to B and H and Dever up there too. All just to cast aspersions around with no actually proof...but it backfired big time on the defense. Hopefully the jurors saw what's really going on. All just my opinion, of course.

So interesting to read your opinion.

I have never heard of anyone having such a specific "false" memory. She was so sure of seeing the two men in the sally port that she relayed it all to the FBI - with specifics - including Karen Read's exact car.. that Brian Higgins had been at the party and was a witness...
It was only after the Feds released information in this case, including her fbi interview, before the second trial that she decided she had a false memory..
Karen Read’s trial is postponed after feds release tidal wave of data on murder case

It seems to me that once this info was public it was not good for her career and her LE friends told her that. So she recanted. So I very much believe that the FBI still has an eye on her at BPD despite whatever they told her.

I don't fault her as she is very young and I think she got caught in a pickle.
There seemed to be no good alternative for her. I felt I could see that on her face as she tried to weigh her answers before committing to them.
I am only sorry that she did not have a trusted adult to go to that had her long term best interest at heart.

These life decisions are so hard - the old Two Roads diverged. I hope she feels she chose wisely.
JMO

 

[lohrtabitha]

Chloe is innocent

IMO

And she didn't bite the neighbors or their dog either?

 

[cocomod]

Wow. She’s got guts.
DNA can be recovered from thousands of year old fossils

IMO

Not from the clothing they were wearing, just from their bones - and under the right circumstances.

 

[arielilane]

Perfect timing to call for lunch, Alessi. lol

This lady is an expert in everything. Knows all. Sees all.
However, ADA Brennan discredited her. Time to send her home. jmo

 

[rescuemom]

She does not claim to be an expert in everything.I<modsnip - personalizing>

She is respectful, clinical and knowledgeable in her answers.
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[jepop]

It's so frustrating watching Brennan trying to poke holes in Dr Russell's testimony. The CW cannot make this trial make sense, Brennan cannot make Dr Welcher's absurd experiment or speculations make sense. IMO.

Those wounds are from dog scratches and half bites/partial bites/ a semi grip, however you want to put it, not from 16th inch or smaller irregular shards of tail light. Blind Freddy can surely see this.

Total kudus to Dr Russell and Alessi for doing so well after being forced into proving the obvious, because Brennan on behalf of the CW must try to get the jury to bury their heads in the sand, like the CW has been doing, like Proctor did when he saw those wounds, like the ME must have done when she measured and photographed them and never enquired further. Jmo

These wounds have been ignored for years. Now the defense brings them into the light in great detail in a court of law through Dr Russell, and the cw's only answer is to burrow down into the sand to not see, to obtusely ignore what is in front of its collective eyes. Jmo

No warrant was ever issued for 34 Fairview where a large dog resided, yet there on the lawn was the deceased with dog scratches and evidence of partial bites up and down his right forearm.

Moo the cw's case is a joke. Just hoping the jury sees it for what it is.

 

[Linda7NJ]

dbm

 

[Warwick7]

I’ve have never seen a “expert witness” so laughably unqualified.


IMO

Repeat after me: Shanon Burgess in M00

 

[Linda7NJ]

And she didn't bite the neighbors or their dog either?

She was dog agressive and that’s why she was re-homed 4 months after John’s death
Imo

 

[rescuemom]

So interesting to read your opinion.

I have never heard of anyone having such a specific "false" memory. She was so sure of seeing the two men in the sally port that she relayed it all to the FBI - with specifics - including Karen Read's exact car.. that Brian Higgins had been at the party and was a witness...
It was only after the Feds released information in this case, including her fbi interview, before the second trial that she decided she had a false memory..
Karen Read’s trial is postponed after feds release tidal wave of data on murder case

It seems to me that once this info was public it was not good for her career and her LE friends told her that. So she recanted. So I very much believe that the FBI still has an eye on her at BPD despite whatever they told her.

I don't fault her as she is very young and I think she got caught in a pickle.
There seemed to be no good alternative for her. I felt I could see that on her face as she tried to weigh her answers before committing to them.
I am only sorry that she did not have a trusted adult to go to that had her long term best interest at heart.

These life decisions are so hard - the old Two Roads diverged. I hope she feels she chose wisely.
JMO

Either way, it seems in my opinion that it is nature to go to whichever way benefits her. First, it was the FBI and then it was the BPD. I don’t think either one are finished with her yet.

 

[lohrtabitha]

Dog treats pig DNA wouldn’t be there without DOG SALIVA

IMO

How do you know that for 100% fact?

 

[keek]

She does not claim to be an expert in everything.I’m sure it’s hard for you to appreciate anybody who has any intelligence and can speak on multiple subjects. She is respectful, clinical and knowledgeable in her answers.
I’m sure it’s very hard for you to watch this case go down the tube.

I do wonder at some not understanding or reading/listening to the incredible background and accolades across the board on Dr. Russell. They are public. IMO

 

[lohrtabitha]

Dr Russell says the dog DNA could have degraded because of how long it took to swab the hoodie.

ETA: she said best practice would have been to immediately swab the hoodie.

EXACTLY!!!

 

[Maat99]

I do wonder at some not understanding or reading/listening to the incredible background and accolades across the board on Dr. Russell. They are public. IMO

it’s lashing out behavior imvho

 

[lohrtabitha]

Wow. She’s got guts.
DNA can be recovered from thousands of year old fossils

IMO

I have read that dogs may not salivate enough when they bite to leave enough DNA behind to yield a quality sample.