MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #33 Retrial

[Wishbone]

core temp was taken rectally and the time of death according to Dr. Rice’s testimony was 7:50 am.

Yes, after JO was warmed up enough to declare him deceased.

 

[missy1974]

dang, i missed the last question, my feed was buffering....

Wolfe is done.

No voir dire so they can all have a break. They will do it later, maybe before or after lunch break?

 

[BUF]

So now the judge wants the defense to put Dr Lasada on the stand but not ask any questions about dog bites….as she wants to wait to do the voir dire after lunch?

Does this make any sense???

 

[justwannahelp]

dang, i missed the last question, my feed was buffering....

Wolfe is done.

No voir dire so they can all have a break. They will do it later, maybe before or after lunch break?

Wolfe was STILL on the stand today?! I haven’t watched any trial today and couldn’t finish watching Brennan’s ridiculous cross examination

 

[justwannahelp]

So now the judge wants the defense to put Dr Lasada on the stand but not ask any questions about dog bites….as she wants to wait to do the voir dire after lunch?

Does this make any sense???

NONE

None whatsoever!!

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

Well I'm just getting caught up on ARCCA guy's direct testimony.

That Test E (in the ARCCA presentation) the crash dummy was hit in the arm (which was less than the weight of the victim's) by the tail light area of the vehicle, at 29mph.It proved everything the prosecution, on their direct case, says happened.

In ARCCA's Test E the tail light explodes into shards flying outward everywhere and the victim was spun around. If the dummy hadn't of been suspended by a crane the momentum would have certainly set it flying back landing to slam it's head on the ground, AJMO.

Why would the defense even put this on as it proves the prosecution's case? If I was a juror I'd be wondering that

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How would it have CERTAINLY slammed it's head on the ground? It could have been flung back and landed knees first, hands first, hands and knees first, feet first, back first. There's about 20 different options that wouldn't include "slamming the head on the ground"

ETA: None of these options matter because he wasn't hit by a car. JMO

 

[Elliot_Alderson]

brennan's question is not making sense and the judge keeps allowing whatever it is he is trying to ask. INSANE.

CASE LAW, Wishbone!

 

[DustysMom]

If a woman reverses her car into her boyfriend and kills him, but no-one is around to hear it. Does that mean that it never made a sound?

If mental gymnastics was an olympic sport, Hank and the Aperture boys would bring home gold for the US of A. Has there ever been a case in criminal history where they needed to download megabytes, or megabits of data (they didn't know the difference and I don't either) from a computer in order to prove a car hit someone outside a house where he was expected to arrive and then not notice him dead outside said house for 6 hours?

Is Karen Read guilty?

The science says 'no'
the computer says 'yes'

JMO

Thanks for making me LOL !
I’d like to add that KR was at 34F for 11 minutes - during which Ryan &co came and went and JMC claims she was looking out the window. Yet no one saw or heard anything.

 

[Teche]

DBM

 

[Wishbone]

CASE LAW, Wishbone!

ok, I get it, just take the judge's word with no explanation.

 

[keek]

CASE LAW, Wishbone!

I just ran in and turned it on and instant stupid babble from him.. Wolfe is so disgusted he can't stand it. He just has nothing of substance. IMO

 

[keek]

DBM

Neither here nor there. IMO Either way. If it was B wife or whatever did that on opposite.. yawn. IMO. Means nothing in this trial. We see evidence. IMO

 

[kuromiiiilove]

ok, I get it, just take the judge's word with no explanation.

Source: trust me bro

 

[LvsAMystry]

Jackson back... made it clear that Welcher used a 50 percentile dummy in his testing.

Boom

 

[Wishbone]

Neither here nor there. IMO Either way. If it was B wife or whatever did that on opposite.. yawn. IMO. Means nothing in this trial. We see evidence. IMO

I see that post got deleted by the poster

 

[missy1974]

I learned something new today... did anyone know there was holes in the back of the sweatshirt?

I went back to look again, but we can't see where Brennan is point to on the sweatshirt.

Wolfe said they are not consistent with road rash.

My first thought... a dog pulling at the sweatshirt... but no idea where the holes are.

 

[jepop]

So now the judge wants the defense to put Dr Lasada on the stand but not ask any questions about dog bites….as she wants to wait to do the voir dire after lunch?

Does this make any sense???

No, that does not make sense to me. What's the deal? You don't do a voir dire after the witness has already testified. Are you sure that's right? Could be a 'that's how we do it Massachusetts' thing I guess.

Is it possible this judge is trying to rush through the tail end of the trial and squeeze things in higgledy piggledy to suit he own whim? Just a thought. Will await developments. Jmo

 

[bobbymkii]

Well I'm just getting caught up on ARCCA guy's direct testimony.

That Test E (in the ARCCA presentation) the crash dummy was hit in the arm (which was less than the weight of the victim's) by the tail light area of the vehicle, at 29mph.It proved everything the prosecution, on their direct case, says happened.

In ARCCA's Test E the tail light explodes into shards flying outward everywhere and the victim was spun around. If the dummy hadn't of been suspended by a crane the momentum would have certainly set it flying back landing to slam it's head on the ground, AJMO.

Why would the defense even put this on as it proves the prosecution's case? If I was a juror I'd be wondering that

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On a superficial level, yes, the video of Test E looks very similar to what the CW have described happening in the pedestrian strike. Almost chillingly so.

But with a proper analysis of the damage the test shows very different damage to the interior of the taillight which doesn't match KR's Lexus and also no damage to the sweater, which the CW are claiming was pierced by taillight shards.

JMO

 

[missy1974]

No, that does not make sense to me. What's the deal? You don't do a voir dire after the witness has already testified. Are you sure that's right? Could be a 'that's how we do it Massachusetts' thing I guess.

Is it possible this judge is trying to rush through the tail end of the trial and squeeze things in higgledy piggledy to suit he own whim? Just a thought. Will await developments. Jmo

Jackson just won't ask certain questions to start.. so they don't make the jury wait too long.

 

[ShadyLady]

On a superficial level, yes, the video of Test E looks very similar to what the CW have described happening in the pedestrian strike. Almost chillingly so.

But with a proper analysis of the damage the test shows very different damage to the interior of the taillight which doesn't match KR's Lexus and also no damage to the sweater, which the CW are claiming was pierced by taillight shards.

JMO

Brennan wanted the shards of tail light to move backwards??? And so embed in sweat shirt?