NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #37 Retrial

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  • #81
The continued accusations of judicial misconduct and corruption in these threads is wild.
Is incompetence better? The charge instructions are a perfect example. Cannone refused to change the verbiage to make it easier to understand both in the first trial and the second. Yet, here we are again. I’ll give her trial one. Maybe she did believe the instructions were clear, but the confusion was no longer a secret for trial 2.
 
  • #82
Despising the defendant (as I do) and believing she's not guilty (as I do) are not mutually exclusive.
 
  • #83
Acting like a bunch of posers.
Kinda sad considering what's at stake.

No matter the verdict, my biggest wish is the defendant disappears from the limelight never to be heard of again.
What’s sad is pretending that a woman who’s been dragged through two trials doesn’t have the right to acknowledge people who’ve stood by her for years. MOO
 
  • #84
The problem exists because we have lawyers and judges coming up with the jury slip language, people highly educated and experienced on the law. Ordinary citizens which comprise juries do not have that education and experience, obviously, and need very simple easy to understand instructions.
 
  • #85
@cathyrusson


I'm wondering if, when jurors asked if Karen Read's media interviews were evidence, that's what they hung up on the OUI charge because she admitted she shouldn't have been driving (not exact verbiage).


9:40 AM · Jun 18, 2025
 
  • #86
I genuinely couldn't call it either way which is why I think it should be NG.
 
  • #87
What's wild to me is how they can get away with that misconduct and corruption with no consequences.

At this point the cw has spent a disgusting amount of money( a million plus?) to prove OUI. JMOO
 
  • #88
Praying this won't drag on much longer.
 
  • #89
The problem exists because we have lawyers and judges coming up with the jury slip language, people highly educated and experienced on the law. Ordinary citizens which comprise juries do not have that education and experience, obviously, and need very simple easy to understand instructions.

Exactly, these verdict forms appear to be written for those well-versed in the law, not ordinary citizens just trying to fulfill their civic duty.
 
  • #90
The continued accusations of judicial misconduct and corruption in these threads is wild.
It’s not just in “these threads”. Websleuths approved legal analysts also see and comment on her inexplicable rulings and their thoughts have been posted quite frequently imo. Also, misconduct and corruption are certainly explanations for her odd behavior, but bias and incompetence are also on the table. IMO.
 
  • #91
The problem exists because we have lawyers and judges coming up with the jury slip language, people highly educated and experienced on the law. Ordinary citizens which comprise juries do not have that education and experience, obviously, and need very simple easy to understand instructions.
Yes. The verdict form should be simple. Ultimately, it is Cannone’s responsibility.

Also, charge stacking shouldn’t be allowed. Throw everything and the kitchen sink at someone and hope they take a plea. That’s why they do it.
 
  • #92
I am in the minority, I think she did do it and was too drunk to know she hit him. The weather finished him off.
Yeah, it’s just hard to get past all four medical examiners testifying that his injuries weren’t from a car strike. Jmo.
 
  • #93
I have to go meet a new client and will be unable to check in for about an hour. If we could hold a verdict until I am done and then have it immediately, that would be great. Please and thank you. LOL
 
  • #94
Not the most current one with the changes added yesterday suggested by the defense for count 2. I agree it,'s clear the jury can and should reach a verdict for each of the three indictments ( counts). Ie Count 1 and 3 are clear. The problem remains if and only if they hang on a lesser ( imo no. 5 in Count 2) and cannone declares a mistrial. Legally she can be retried on count 2 in its entirety ie man slaughter. Jmo
 
  • #95
Today has to be the day. NG
 
  • #96
What’s sad is pretending that a woman who’s been dragged through two trials doesn’t have the right to acknowledge people who’ve stood by her for years. MOO
I swear, folks out here acting like she asked for this notoriety.
It's beyond bizarre.
IMO.
 
  • #97
Despising the defendant (as I do) and believing she's not guilty (as I do) are not mutually exclusive.
Curious what you despise about her. I'm genuinely asking. I mean despise is a strong word. Is it the voice mails? Or the way she speaks? Or the way she dresses? I'm just curious. I wouldn't say she is by any means a perfect human, but she has a lot of positive attributes as well and I certainly admire her strength against such adversity.
 
  • #98
Yes. The verdict form should be simple. Ultimately, it is Cannone’s responsibility.

Also, charge stacking shouldn’t be allowed. Throw everything and the kitchen sink at someone and hope they take a plea. That’s why they do it.
BBM
IMO, Matt McCabe in a group text with his wife, Jen, SIL Nicole and BIL, Brian Albert:

“If she pleas it will all go away, if she fights it will be an episode.”
 
  • #99
The continued accusations of judicial misconduct and corruption in these threads is wild.
Yes because they are truth and people have a hard time accepting it in my opinion.
 
  • #100
Not the most current one with the changes added yesterday suggested by the defense for count 2. I agree it,'s clear the jury can and should reach a verdict for each of the three indictments ( counts). Ie Count 1 and 3 are clear. The problem remains if and only if they hang on a lesser ( imo no. 5 in Count 2) and cannone declares a mistrial. Legally she can be retried on count 2 in its entirety ie man slaughter. Jmo
I"m thinking they will find her guilty on the OUI, in which case, she is guilty of only an OUI, correct? ... and not of manslaughter while OUI?

Are you saying that if they cannot decide on the OUI, it becomes a hung jury on Count 2 in its entirety and she could be retried on that count alone?
 
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