NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #38 Retrial

[Izzylizzy]

What a travesty. I'm extremely sorry for John's family and friends, the pain in knowing that she got away with throwing an enraged and drunken tantrum with a 4,000 lb vehicle killing their loved one. The evidence was clearly there to convict on Manslaughter while Driving Intoxicated and Leaving the Scene. Too bad the jurors were either unable to see the truth beyond the falsehoods, the hype and the false celebrity or too scared by the probable repercussions from her adoring fans. This is ALL just my opinion.

Too bad the jurors were able to see photos of the taillight eh?

imo

 

[missy1974]

Too bad the jurors were able to see photos of the taillight eh?

imo

Even better, they were able to see and touch it and see an intact one

 

[ShadyLady]

Stuff that is deleted on computers can often be recovered. Would love the FBI to go into Canton PD and get some forensic IT people to see what can be recovered from their computers (especially any device used by Michael Proctor.)

AND the missing sally port videos.

 

[Dawookie]

Too bad the jurors were able to see photos of the taillight eh?

imo

I got told today I was lying about there being photos of the tail light intact after they told me I was a conspiracy theorist and uneducated. Had to laugh about that one. Also basically said that because she lied about the amount of drinks, that was worse than all the lies by Proctor and the McAlberts

 

[Forest_Wood]

I found HBs statement to be really him trying to distance himself from the NG verdict and try to save his reputation. Who is going to admit now that there may be other suspects out there. I don’t anticipate the case into JOKs death reopened since they didn’t do an investigation to begin with to collect any other evidence. MOO

 

[iluvmua]

Karen Read Supporters Harass O'Keefe Family Post Verdict, Woman Dances Outside Home

John O'Keefe’s family says they’ve continued to be harassed by Karen Read supporters ever since her acquittal last week on second-degree murder and manslaughter while under the influence ... TMZ can reveal.

www.tmz.com

 

[twall]

Karen Read Supporters Harass O'Keefe Family Post Verdict, Woman Dances Outside Home

John O'Keefe’s family says they’ve continued to be harassed by Karen Read supporters ever since her acquittal last week on second-degree murder and manslaughter while under the influence ... TMZ can reveal.

www.tmz.com

That's real mature. /s JMO

 

[Anniesflowers]

Karen Read Supporters Harass O'Keefe Family Post Verdict, Woman Dances Outside Home

John O'Keefe’s family says they’ve continued to be harassed by Karen Read supporters ever since her acquittal last week on second-degree murder and manslaughter while under the influence ... TMZ can reveal.

www.tmz.com

Anyone harassing the family should be arrested and, if found guilty, punished. Disgusting.

 

[mzmarymac]

Karen Read Supporters Harass O'Keefe Family Post Verdict, Woman Dances Outside Home

John O'Keefe’s family says they’ve continued to be harassed by Karen Read supporters ever since her acquittal last week on second-degree murder and manslaughter while under the influence ... TMZ can reveal.

www.tmz.com

Absolutely disgraceful. Those kids live there with their grandmother. I hope the Read camp issues a statement that this is NOT what they want.

 

[MerlinFalcon]

That's real mature. /s JMO

What is wrong with people?

 

[I am not Sherlock H.]

What a travesty. I'm extremely sorry for John's family and friends, the pain in knowing that she got away with throwing an enraged and drunken tantrum with a 4,000 lb vehicle killing their loved one. The evidence was clearly there to convict on Manslaughter while Driving Intoxicated and Leaving the Scene. Too bad the jurors were either unable to see the truth beyond the falsehoods, the hype and the false celebrity or too scared by the probable repercussions from her adoring fans. This is ALL just my opinion.

Respectfully, and actually that is not the case IIUC. AFAIK the jurors have determined that KR did not ‘throw an enraged and drunken tantrum with a 4,000 lb vehicle’. And according to the jurors and many others, the ‘evidence’ was not there in this case, neither the first or second trial. From the questions the jurors asked in this second trial, it is apparent IMO that they took their oath and duty very seriously and professionally. And rendered a just verdict……. based on the evidence presented in court to them.

Yes, sadly an individual lost their life that evening. And some feel, me included, that the CW should have conducted a better investigation. There was considerable ‘evidence’ in this case that IMO did not have suitable ‘chain of custody’ or other proper protocol handling. And other necessary evidence to form a sound convincing idea of the events was seen as lacking IMO.

Regarding the Lexus vehicle that KR owned at that time, a circa 2021 Lexus LX 570. IIUC the actual curb weight (also sometimes called gross vehicle weight) is closer to 6,000 pounds. See attached Edmunds online specifications for that vehicle (Lexus LX 570 Specs and Features): https://www.edmunds.com/lexus/lx-570/2021/features-specs/

I am not an accident reconstructionist or other accident investigator. But if a nearly 6,000 pound (~3 ton) vehicle had hit an individual it is likely they would have received considerable bodily injury. And as the jurors concluded and considerable evidence demonstrated, JOK was not struck by a vehicle. MOO

 

[LittleSeaTree]

Quote: here's no way that his DNA was planted on the taillight.

Agreed DNA was not planted but it was on the flat external surface of the car, there were three male DNA detected (which included John O'Keefe). John had access to the car for months, I would be utterly gobsmacked if his DNA didn't appear on the outside of the car. There was no DNA, skin or blood on any of the shards that supposedly created the marks on his arms.

Minute pieces of taillight was found on the clothes. Firstly the clothes were left on the floor of the hospital. There existed no proper logs or control of the clothes or the tail light. IMHO the glass that was found on the bumper, which only matched the glass found much latter by Proctor. The testimony of Policeman Barros from Dighton. You may not believe it but the vast majority do believe that evidence was planted in this case.

Again no ME or doctor testified that John had injury that matched a car impact.

Engineers hired by the FBI, and therefore utterly independent, confirmed that John wasn't hit by a car, not did the car hit someone.

Clearly IMHO you appear to have wasted four hours.

Actually most of us took in a hell of a lot more hours than 4, taking in gobs of evidence, leading us to our opinions.

 

[waldojabba]

Absolutely disgraceful. Those kids live there with their grandmother. I hope the Read camp issues a statement that this is NOT what they want.

As @keek said the trial is over and its time for people to move on.
Stop the harrassing and the gaslighting on both sides.
Shake hands and move on like they do in hockey at the end of the game

A statement like Brennan's, just adds fuel to the fire unfortunately. There is lots of bad behavior, deflection and attention seeking from people on both sides of the fence.
It will die down I suspect. Maybe the Canton PD can park a car out front of Peg's house or something to deter the bad behavior in the short term. Certainly talking to TMZ and calling
the cops on a dancing woman is not going to help. Maybe take the kids to the beach and get away for a bit.

I was thinking driving home tonight that I still cannot get over that farce of an interview on Dateline with some of the after bar party crowd. Great idea ...Lets draw attention to ourselves and open that door ... ...
I wish there was a really good investigative journalist that would blow this thing wide open.
JMO

 

[LittleSeaTree]

Actually most of us took in a hell of a lot more hours than 4, taking in gobs of evidence, leading us to our opinions.

Adding…..but thanks for stopping in.

 

[ShadyLady]

Karen Read Supporters Harass O'Keefe Family Post Verdict, Woman Dances Outside Home

John O'Keefe’s family says they’ve continued to be harassed by Karen Read supporters ever since her acquittal last week on second-degree murder and manslaughter while under the influence ... TMZ can reveal.

www.tmz.com

Crazy people on all sides. Guess they want their 15 minutes.

 

[ShadyLady]

Quote: here's no way that his DNA was planted on the taillight.

Agreed DNA was not planted but it was on the flat external surface of the car, there were three male DNA detected (which included John O'Keefe). John had access to the car for months, I would be utterly gobsmacked if his DNA didn't appear on the outside of the car. There was no DNA, skin or blood on any of the shards that supposedly created the marks on his arms.

Minute pieces of taillight was found on the clothes. Firstly the clothes were left on the floor of the hospital. There existed no proper logs or control of the clothes or the tail light. IMHO the glass that was found on the bumper, which only matched the glass found much latter by Proctor. The testimony of Policeman Barros from Dighton. You may not believe it but the vast majority do believe that evidence was planted in this case.

Again no ME or doctor testified that John had injury that matched a car impact.

Engineers hired by the FBI, and therefore utterly independent, confirmed that John wasn't hit by a car, not did the car hit someone.

Clearly IMHO you appear to have wasted four hours.

And still inexcusable that lead cop kept evidence for one and a half MONTHS before turning it over for analysis. The one that called Karen a *****.

 

[Malleeboy]

Actually most of us took in a hell of a lot more hours than 4, taking in gobs of evidence, leading us to our opinions.

My response was to the OP, who indicated that they spent four hours.

You entitled to your view, just as I'm entitled to the view that anyone that reviews the data and science and still finds it possible Karen Read did this, have failed to understand it.

 

[Luna20]

Yanetti has Karen in his X avatar. That is so funny…and thoughtful.

 

[missy1974]

This is interesting... Barros did an interview tonight.... Lally didn't show him the photo before the 1st trial because Barros told him that if it's a picture of it smashed, that is NOT how it was in Dighton, they would also have to share that with the defense.

https://twitter.com/x/status/1937347225853788391

 

[jesse]

I was just reading tonight that jurors and their families are being harassed- including claiming that jurors' children should suffer the same fate as JOK. People really need to grow up and get a grip.