NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #38 Retrial

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Probably wasn't a good idea for the prosecution, pro-prosecution people. and some of the witnesses to attack the jurors and/or the system.

The foreman of the jury has issued a public appeal to the FBI to get to the bottom of the murder of John O'Keefe. “No one local should be involved in the investigation. It was lazy police work … and we should start some type of investigation of what went on in that house.”


And that Dighton police officer Sgt. Barros who testified that the taillight was still mostly intact when he saw it at the Reads' home has some interesting things to say about Adam Lally. In an interview yesterday he says he told Lally when they met before the first trial exactly what the condition of the taillight was before the vehicle was returned to Canton. Lally didn't disclose this to the defense and according to Barros never showed Barros the picture of the damage the prosecution asserted at both trials was caused by Karen Read.

Mark Bederow opines that this is because Lally was trying to avoid having to disclose exculpatory evidence to the defense and believes Lally could be in hot water over this. Bederow:

If he said the taillight was not severely damaged or completely destroyed, that contradicted the MSP and should have been disclosed under Brady. Not showing the photo sounds like a deliberate attempt to skirt their obligations. They obviously knew what was happening and attempted to act willfully blind to their Brady obligation. They are in trouble with this.
 
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Canton Select Board selects interim police chief after KR trial. Hopefully, he will do a good job. By the way Chris Albert was not there.
that select board is a real moving side show especially when Albert was there. Same speakers every week. Many long time residents who are so fed up at what their city has become.
 
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Live

 
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Three in one combo.
Yesterday

 
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haha I am watching... he's talking about the FBI.. and if they tell you that they are investigating a case ... you should probably stop talking about the case with other people!

He doesn't think the FBI would be honest about telling anyone their case is "closed". Said the FBI is happy to wait and not tell you anything, if they did tell Brennan or anyone it's closed, it really means nothing, because it can be reopened anyway.

Also saying that the FBI would not investigate the death of JOK, they would investigate the investigators.

He would have been a great witness!
 
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Does anyone know where the civil case stands and who is representing KR in that if. it goes forward?

The Wrongful Death civil suit against KR and the two bars they visited, filed in Plymouth Superior Court in Brockton last August, was stayed until the end of the criminal trial. I recall she's being represented by a civil firm hired by her insurance carrier.

For KR's sake, I hope she directs her insurer to pay the policy limit to the family w/o any admission and be done. Time for all to move on. MOO
 
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The Wrongful Death civil suit against KR and the two bars they visited, filed in Plymouth Superior Court in Brockton last August, was stayed until the end of the criminal trial. I recall she's being represented by a civil firm hired by her insurance carrier.

For KR's sake, I hope she directs her insurer to pay the policy limit to the family w/o any admission and be done. Time for all to move on. MOO

A policyholder has no legal right to direct their carrier to pay or not pay a claim. Standard Auto policies always have a General Condition that says something like "We have the right to settle claims as we see fit".

A lot will depend how much coverge she has, but even if her insurance company opts to offer to pay the full limit, Paul O'Keefe has the right to refuse the offer still try to get a (higher) judgement against her via a jury trial.

So I hope she has a high Auto policy limit and has a personal liability excess policy and that her carrier fights this.
 
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I think there are reasons why the defense is so confident in their insistence that Karen is innocent and why they fought so hard for her. A lot of us have watched so many trials where the defense does what the defense does, but it's rare for defense attorneys to have the passion for her innocence that all of her's did and still do.

With that said... what was in the FBI report? And whatever it was, I'm going to guess they were not allowed to bring it into the trial.



An FBI analysis of a phone belonging to Brian Albert’s sister-in-law, Jennifer McCabe, determined she searched “hos long to die in cold” at 2:27 am, hours before she called 911 to report that O’Keefe’s body had been found outside the Albert home, according to Jackson.

The United States Federal Bureau of Investigation also specifically confirms that that search was made on Jennifer McCabe’s phone, and it was made on or before 2:27 (am)… That fact, Your Honor, is no longer open for debate. And none of that was presented before the (state) grand jury,” Jackson explained.
I was able to find the hearing on youtube too...

FBI specifically confirmed it - yet Jennifer McCabe (in that ridiculous we’re the victims gang interview) still claimed ‘she asked me to search’ - she refused to take responsibility for it.

( Mod) Please post link. Thank You.
 
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The Wrongful Death civil suit against KR and the two bars they visited, filed in Plymouth Superior Court in Brockton last August, was stayed until the end of the criminal trial. I recall she's being represented by a civil firm hired by her insurance carrier.

For KR's sake, I hope she directs her insurer to pay the policy limit to the family w/o any admission and be done. Time for all to move on. MOO
I can’t remember where I read this but I think one of the law tubers was asked what happens to the Lexus. They said she may not get it back due to the OUI. I don’t know how these things work but I’m not sure what KR will do once the dust settles. One the one hand it would be great to get it over with. On the other hand, she didn’t kill John so she may fight it.
 
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I can’t remember where I read this but I think one of the law tubers was asked what happens to the Lexus. They said she may not get it back due to the OUI. I don’t know how these things work but I’m not sure what KR will do once the dust settles. One the one hand it would be great to get it over with. On the other hand, she didn’t kill John so she may fight it.

The Lexus must be returned to her now. It's her property, whether she can drive it or not and it's no longer evidence.

I'm not sure if she's lost her license for 6 months or a year, but she can apply for a hardship license that might allow limited driving privileges during that time.
 
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My response was to the OP, who indicated that they spent four hours.

You entitled to your view, just as I'm entitled to the view that anyone that reviews the data and science and still finds it possible Karen Read did this, have failed to understand it.
Crud, I’m sorry, I intended that for the OP. I’m really awful at this 🥹
 
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The Lexus must be returned to her now. It's her property, whether she can drive it or not and it's no longer evidence.

I'm not sure if she's lost her license for 6 months or a year, but she can apply for a hardship license that might allow limited driving privileges during that time.
she has gotten pretty used to having drivers so she can take Ubers and her family will help with driving.
 
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The Wrongful Death civil suit against KR and the two bars they visited, filed in Plymouth Superior Court in Brockton last August, was stayed until the end of the criminal trial. I recall she's being represented by a civil firm hired by her insurance carrier.

For KR's sake, I hope she directs her insurer to pay the policy limit to the family w/o any admission and be done. Time for all to move on. MOO
Boy I did not realize you can sue the bar that overserved Karen assuming that Karen caused JOK's death. Since she was acquitted of that and no evidence proved she caused his death I don't see how a civil should even go forward. I would think Paul would want to go back to real life not in a courtroom.
 
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I can’t fault HB for representing Whitey Bulger because every defendant deserves to have a lawyer representing them. However, HB’s behavior was reprehensible at times. It’ll be interesting to see if a complaint will be filed.
 
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I can’t fault HB for representing Whitey Bulger because every defendant deserves to have a lawyer representing them. However, HB’s behavior was reprehensible at times. It’ll be interesting to see if a complaint will be filed.
I was really surprised at the end when he agreed with immediate sentencing and probation.
 
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I was listening to a podcast with Michael Easter. I don’t think it’s an approved source here but if you go to you tube and put his name in, it’s from a couple of days ago and over 2 hours. Anyhoo, he told them how easy it would have been for the Commonwealth to go to google with a warrant and ask them to do a search on January 29th for “hos long to die in cold” with the typo. It would have given them the exact time of the search and attributed to the phone or laptop that it came from. He was shocked that the Massachusetts State Police didn’t think of it.
That was a great podcast. I felt like Michael Easter had so much more to say, but kept it strictly professional. What an incredibly intelligent, articulate man. I wish the judge had allowed him to testify. He really did a deep dive into the MSP/Canton police’s investigation. He said the LEOs zeroed in on only one suspect waaaay too soon. Moo.
 
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Does anyone know where the civil case stands and who is representing KR in that if. it goes forward?
I haven’t seen anything news about that!
 
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I was really surprised at the end when he agreed with immediate sentencing and probation.
Got to get that progress draw invoice into the State before the 25th or you have to wait another month to get the second half of your $500,000.00
 
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The Lexus must be returned to her now. It's her property, whether she can drive it or not and it's no longer evidence.

I'm not sure if she's lost her license for 6 months or a year, but she can apply for a hardship license that might allow limited driving privileges during that time.
It's my understanding that she doesn't lose her license. She's free to drive again.
 
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