NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #38 Retrial

[HarmonyE.]

Cox said he didn't even know "this person" was associated with Karen Red.

Betcha Devers thought she was so special and all the big boys had her back. lol

imo

Well, Kelly could have learned a few things from the Karen Read case if she'd been paying attention. First and foremost, the big boys will always be happy to "pin it on the girl".

 

[Forest_Wood]

Are you kidding me???

https://twitter.com/x/status/1943397279072686108

When Dever was called to his office to offer support, he never knew she was testifying at the Karen Read trial?
MOO
Edited to remove incorrect details.

 

[Lilibet]

How long has this guy been around? John was a BPD cop.. Brian Albert was a BPD cop... he has never heard of Karen Read? Seriously? Someone is lying.. AGAIN!

Everyone and everything surrounding this case is almost incredulous and they think everyone is stupid.

JMO

BBM

it’s clearly stupid of him to pull a Sargent Schultz and pretend he's never even heard of the Karen Read case.

BBM

Let’s’ quote the guy correctly, please. He didn’t say he had “never heard” of Karen Read or the case. That doesn’t mean he isn’t lying in what he did say, but it wasn’t this. Personally, I’d be more inclined to think Devers is lying about her meeting with him.

Boston’s top cop questioned about Karen Read case, officer who testified in her murder retrial

Michael Cox answered questions about Karen Read on Thursday, specifically about one of his officers who testified in the Mansfield woman’s high-profile murder retrial.

www.boston25news.com

Cox quickly answered, “I have nothing to do with Karen Read. As a matter of fact, I didn’t even know this person was associated with the Karen Read case.

“I have an organization full of over 3,000 people, and we support all our folks. The reality is that I get information passed on, whether those people are high or low, and I encourage everyone,” Cox continued. “If you want to work here and you belong here, then we’re going to encourage you. I have no idea what they’re talking about with Karen Read. I had nothing to do with Karen Read, no discussion about Karen Read.”

 

[Lilibet]

How could he have never heard of Karen Read? C'mon! That's ludicrous.
JOK was one of his 3000 employees who he said he supports them all. And he didn't know the name of his "killer"? Plus Brian Albert was one those 3000 also. Yet he never heard of Karen Read? And when Dever was called to his office to offer support, he never knew she was testifying at the Karen Read trial?
MOO

Please re-read the article. He never said he never heard of Karen Read.

 

[keek]

Cox said he didn't even know "this person" was associated with Karen Read.

Betcha Devers thought she was so special and all the big boys had her back. lol
imo

So, The Alberts and McCabes gave everyone the gift that keeps on giving and it's all very bad news to keep seeing and being reminded how it goes so disgustingly and scary, but the light is being shone and I just don't see it removing the corruption that exists in our faces from the top to the bottom feeders. IMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

Well, Kelly could have learned a few things from the Karen Read case if she'd been paying attention. First and foremost, the big boys will always be happy to "pin it on the girl".

Yep and if she thought her life/career couldn't get any worse since her testimony there it is.
Devers also has to deal with the fact that her live-in boyfriend is also a Boston officer.
imo

 

[Forest_Wood]

If you want to work here and you belong here, then we’re going to encourage you.

Yep! If you want to work here and you belong here, they will encourage you.
But if you don't want to play by our rules, you don't belong here and you won't work here.
MOO

 

[Izzylizzy]

How could he have never heard of Karen Read? C'mon! That's ludicrous.
JOK was one of his 3000 employees who he said he supports them all. And he didn't know the name of his "killer"? Plus Brian Albert was one those 3000 also. Yet he never heard of Karen Read? And when Dever was called to his office to offer support, he never knew she was testifying at the Karen Read trial?
MOO

snip

“Your name came up during the recent Karen Read trial. You got a visit from Officer Kelly Dever. The defense implied you influenced her testimony. Do you want to respond to that?” Cox was asked.

Cox quickly answered, “I have nothing to do with Karen Read. As a matter of fact, I didn’t even know this person was associated with the Karen Read case.


“I have an organization full of over 3,000 people, and we support all our folks. The reality is that I get information passed on, whether those people are high or low, and I encourage everyone,” Cox continued. “If you want to work here and you belong here, then we’re going to encourage you. I have no idea what they’re talking about with Karen Read. I had nothing to do with Karen Read, no discussion about Karen Read.”

Cox was then asked, “Did you tell Officer Dever to do the right thing?”

“I didn’t know she was even associated with that case,” Cox answered. “I was struck like, ‘What do I have to do with the Karen Read case?’ I’ve never said those words together. So, the fact is it’s much to do about nothing.”

 

[Forest_Wood]

Please re-read the article. He never said he never heard of Karen Read.

Yes I edited my post. He completely distances himself from the KR trial and almost from Kelly Devers too. He implied his staff arranged to have her go visit him? Did he even say at the end, "I was in the state of Michigan."?

 

[Forest_Wood]

Did I miss it when the reporter asked Cox if what he's saying is he never called Dever to his office and told her to "do the right thing"?
I heard him say that he never said those words together. lol

It was hard to make out some of what he was saying. He was stumbling over his words a couple times though.

 

[New Penny]

What is needed, is a bulldozer to clean out all the corruption from the top to the bottom. JMOO

It’s like we’ve witnessed a full-blown Mafia type situation except it’s actual law enforcement committing this fraud on their own residents.

Good luck EVER getting this sorted.

MOO

 

[Lilibet]

When Dever was called to his office to offer support, he never knew she was testifying at the Karen Read trial?
MOO
Edited to remove incorrect details.

Did he call her in or did she ask for the meeting? Could this meeting with Cox be one of Devers’ “false memories”? Cox may not have known she was testifying and it’s possible she spoke in general terms about testifying in “a case,” not specifically about Read’s. I don’t know the answers anymore than anyone else does. But I’m not quick to cast doubt on Cox, who has a long and honorable record. FWIW he was beaten more than once by fellow BPD officers who mistook him for a perp (Wikipedia), so I have my doubts that he would throw an officer under the bus because he knows what it feels like. JMO MOO

 

[Lilibet]

Yes I edited my post. He completely distances himself from the KR trial and almost from Kelly Devers too. He implied his staff arranged to have her go visit him? Did he even say at the end, "I was in the state of Michigan."?

Thank you for your edit.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Did he call her in or did she ask for the meeting? Could this meeting with Cox be one of Devers’ “false memories”? Cox may not have known she was testifying and it’s possible she spoke in general terms about testifying in “a case,” not specifically about Read’s. I don’t know the answers anymore than anyone else does. But I’m not quick to cast doubt on Cox, who has a long and honorable record. FWIW he was beaten more than once by fellow BPD officers who mistook him for a perp (Wikipedia), so I have my doubts that he would throw an officer under the bus because he knows what it feels like. JMO MOO

Are you jesting about Dever's "false memory"?

Cox said he didn't know that "this person" (Officer Kelly Dever) was associated with the KR trial.
Dever testified that she was informed by her superior that Cox wanted to see her.
Soon after KD's meeting with Cox she retracted what she told the FBI.
I don't see any connection with officers violently attacking Cox in the past and him not lying today to try and cover his tush.
Cox just opened Pandora's Box.
imo

 

[ch_13]

Did he call her in or did she ask for the meeting? Could this meeting with Cox be one of Devers’ “false memories”? Cox may not have known she was testifying and it’s possible she spoke in general terms about testifying in “a case,” not specifically about Read’s. I don’t know the answers anymore than anyone else does. But I’m not quick to cast doubt on Cox, who has a long and honorable record. FWIW he was beaten more than once by fellow BPD officers who mistook him for a perp (Wikipedia), so I have my doubts that he would throw an officer under the bus because he knows what it feels like. JMO MOO

It just seems weird that they would even ever have a meeting unless it was about Karen Read.

As Cox states, he has thousands of people working for him. And Dever is a very junior officer. He's basically a CEO, and I would imagine that his time is scheduled down to the minute, with assistants and deputies that act as gatekeepers. But it does sound like they met, because Cox didn't say, "I don't even know who Devers is." Instead, he said that he didn't know she was associated with the Karen Read case.

I don't know what's going on. Maybe this was something orchestrated by one of his aides, who neglected to fill in his boss on all the details.

Cox may have thought his brief statement would put this issue to bed, but it just raises more questions about Dever's FBI statement and recantation.

 

[Lilibet]

Are you jesting about Dever's "false memory"?

Cox said he didn't know that "this person" (Officer Kelly Dever) was associated with the KR trial.
Dever testified that she was informed by her superior that Cox wanted to see her.
Soon after KD's meeting with Cox she retracted what she told the FBI.
I don't see any connection with officers violently attacking Cox in the past and him not lying today to try and cover his tush.
Cox just opened Pandora's Box.
imo

I guess you could call my comment about Dever’s “false memory” a jest, since I don’t believe she had a false memory about the sally port. So why would her testimony about the meeting with the commissioner necessarily be true?

I think it’s interesting that there is such a change in attitude toward Dever now. She was roundly criticized for her questionable testimony. Now it’s the commissioner who is lying about her? Carelessly misquoting him, as I posted about earlier, certainly indicates to me a willingness to view him negatively. Maybe there’s a reason for the negative posts that I’m not aware of, but I find it odd.

Cox has had an untarnished career, despite being mistreated. So I’m inclined to trust him more than someone like Dever. But perhaps other posters have more accurate knowledge about him than I do. I’m inclined to wonder if he’s trying to get to the bottom of what happened to JOK.

Boston Police Commissioner Michael Cox Scaled the Blue Wall of Silence

BU alum Michael Cox was beaten by fellow police officers nearly 30 years ago. In 2022, he was appointed in Boston police commissioner.

www.bu.edu

JMO

 

[DustysMom]

Oh, he's not happy with her at all. But I guess he figures throwing her under the bus is the easiest route because she came across as a non-believable nut case at trial, but it's clearly stupid of him to pull a Sargent Schultz and pretend he's never even heard of the Karen Read case. "I know nothing. NOTHING!"

I love that reference! I know NUthing!

 

[missy1974]

I guess you could call my comment about Dever’s “false memory” a jest, since I don’t believe she had a false memory about the sally port. So why would her testimony about the meeting with the commissioner necessarily be true?

I think it’s interesting that there is such a change in attitude toward Dever now. She was roundly criticized for her questionable testimony. Now it’s the commissioner who is lying about her? Carelessly misquoting him, as I posted about earlier, certainly indicates to me a willingness to view him negatively. Maybe there’s a reason for the negative posts that I’m not aware of, but I find it odd.

Cox has had an untarnished career, despite being mistreated. So I’m inclined to trust him more than someone like Dever. But perhaps other posters have more accurate knowledge about him than I do. I’m inclined to wonder if he’s trying to get to the bottom of what happened to JOK.

Boston Police Commissioner Michael Cox Scaled the Blue Wall of Silence

BU alum Michael Cox was beaten by fellow police officers nearly 30 years ago. In 2022, he was appointed in Boston police commissioner.

www.bu.edu

JMO

It was me that misread the article earlier today! Sorry about that, and way too late to go back and edit... BUT.. it does not change what I said... someone is lying AGAIN! I didn't say it was him, but it was him or Dever... pick one, it doesn't matter, but what she testified to and what he said today do not match.

So did Dever lie on the stand? Maybe? He said he didn't know she had a connection to the KR case.... she said in her testimony (linked below): he made it very clear he did not want to discuss the case at all. Which to me doesn't jive with what Cox said today.

And maybe Michael Cox's intentions were good, it sounds like it was her superiors that arranged the meeting, so you have a young officer that has said something that is not favourable to LE in Canton and may be called to testify for the defense and someone arranges for her to meet with Commissioner for "support"? Maybe she read between the lines the wrong way? It's possible he really was just giving his support and told her to do the right thing, maybe she just didn't understand what the right thing was. But then, he said today, he didn't even know there was a connection, so why did he meet with her at all?

All JMO but it is all very shady.

 

[Seattle1]

That is how he started with the case, Yanetti reached out to him to help with Read's parents, he was then asked by the insurance company to represent Karen, along with a few new ones as well. In that interview, it sounded like her original lawyers were just gonna allow them to be deposed, and he did such a good job in arguing against it, he was asked to join them or help.

Damon Seligson was actually in court on many days during the 2nd trial A lot of the same evidence will be used in the civil trial, but hoping even more of what the defense was not able to use in the criminal trial. I believe the other 2 from the firm he works at were added last week.


Here is an article from a few days:

Specifically, Damon Seligson, Charles Waters and Aaron D. Rosenberg all joined Read’s defense team last week, according to court filings. They join three lawyers from the firm Melick & Porter, who already represented Read: Christopher George, William L. Keville Jr. and Marissa K. Palladini.

Karen Read beefs up defense team for wrongful death lawsuit with 3 new lawyers

All three of Karen Read's new lawyers cite "business litigation" as an area of expertise.

www.masslive.com

And glad Ted Daniel is back adding context to the Motions!

https://twitter.com/x/status/1943349618034500065

 

[Warwick7]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1943413495548014968

Brennan was hired in September and I believe his initial contract through November was $75,000.

Then the trial lasted another 10 days after July 8, so it's $641,000 and counting. And of course that's just his fee. Aperture also got $400,000 and who knows what others got.

That's quite the "episode" of money.