NOT GUILTY MA - Professor Karen Read, 43, charged with murdering police officer boyfriend John O'Keefe by hitting him with car, Canton, 14 Apr 2023 #38 Retrial

[Izzylizzy]

It was me that misread the article earlier today! Sorry about that, and way too late to go back and edit... BUT.. it does not change what I said... someone is lying AGAIN! I didn't say it was him, but it was him or Dever... pick one, it doesn't matter, but what she testified to and what he said today do not match.

So did Dever lie on the stand? Maybe? He said he didn't know she had a connection to the KR case.... she said in her testimony (linked below): he made it very clear he did not want to discuss the case at all. Which to me doesn't jive with what Cox said today.

And maybe Michael Cox's intentions were good, it sounds like it was her superiors that arranged the meeting, so you have a young officer that has said something that is not favourable to LE in Canton and may be called to testify for the defense and someone arranges for her to meet with Commissioner for "support"? Maybe she read between the lines the wrong way? It's possible he really was just giving his support and told her to do the right thing, maybe she just didn't understand what the right thing was. But then, he said today, he didn't even know there was a connection, so why did he meet with her at all?

All JMO but it is all very shady.

Brennan had no problem believing that Commissioner Cox met with Dever.
imo

@ 33:29 AJ's second time questioning KD about her meeting with Cox.

 

[LittleSeaTree]

I guess you could call my comment about Dever’s “false memory” a jest, since I don’t believe she had a false memory about the sally port. So why would her testimony about the meeting with the commissioner necessarily be true?

I think it’s interesting that there is such a change in attitude toward Dever now. She was roundly criticized for her questionable testimony. Now it’s the commissioner who is lying about her? Carelessly misquoting him, as I posted about earlier, certainly indicates to me a willingness to view him negatively. Maybe there’s a reason for the negative posts that I’m not aware of, but I find it odd.

Cox has had an untarnished career, despite being mistreated. So I’m inclined to trust him more than someone like Dever. But perhaps other posters have more accurate knowledge about him than I do. I’m inclined to wonder if he’s trying to get to the bottom of what happened to JOK.

Boston Police Commissioner Michael Cox Scaled the Blue Wall of Silence

BU alum Michael Cox was beaten by fellow police officers nearly 30 years ago. In 2022, he was appointed in Boston police commissioner.

www.bu.edu

JMO

Good points. She’s the only one that stated that she’d been called in, right? I wonder who appointed her to her new coveted position. Imagine if there’s yet another bad apple somewhere within those ranks (under commissioner ) that took it upon themselves to do that. Lord knows that’s possible, to say the least, imo!

 

[Warwick7]

Brennan had no problem believing that Commissioner Cox met with Dever.
imo

@ 33:29 AJ's second time questioning KD about her meeting with Cox.

Exactly...

 

[Warwick7]

Boston Herald

https://twitter.com/x/status/1943587850680709402

 

[Forest_Wood]

It was me that misread the article earlier today! Sorry about that, and way too late to go back and edit... BUT.. it does not change what I said... someone is lying AGAIN! I didn't say it was him, but it was him or Dever... pick one, it doesn't matter, but what she testified to and what he said today do not match.

So did Dever lie on the stand? Maybe? He said he didn't know she had a connection to the KR case.... she said in her testimony (linked below): he made it very clear he did not want to discuss the case at all. Which to me doesn't jive with what Cox said today.

And maybe Michael Cox's intentions were good, it sounds like it was her superiors that arranged the meeting, so you have a young officer that has said something that is not favourable to LE in Canton and may be called to testify for the defense and someone arranges for her to meet with Commissioner for "support"? Maybe she read between the lines the wrong way? It's possible he really was just giving his support and told her to do the right thing, maybe she just didn't understand what the right thing was. But then, he said today, he didn't even know there was a connection, so why did he meet with her at all?

All JMO but it is all very shady.

Exactly my thoughts. Cox implied he hardly knows Dever because there's over 3000 employees in the BPD. Dever testified she was called in to see him. Dever testified that at least Cox knows how to pronounce her name correctly, unlike AJ.
Cox said he never knew Dever was even involved with the KR case. Cox acts surprised he's being pulled into the Karen Read case. However ...

Dever: I had a conversation, but it was my department saying regardless of what I have to say on the stand, they support me.

AJ: You were invited to go to the commissioner's office?

Dever: Yes. It wasn't a direct line of contact from him.

AJ: Did you go to his office.

Dever: He's my boss, so yes.

AJ: ...At some point did the commissioner say to you that the Boston PD, insofar as your connection to this case is concerned, the Boston Police Department fully supports you.

Dever: Yes.

AJ: Did he also say do the right thing.

Dever: ...I can't recollect that he said a direct quote two years ago.

AJ: A year ago when you talked to the defense, did you tell the defense that when you were called up to the commissioners office, he told you two things.
The Boston Police Department supports you and Officer Dever do the right thing.

Dever: So he said my name correctly...He said nothing with the intent to guide me one way or the other.

Dever: ...He wanted me to tell the truth up here.

AJ: And his words were "do the right thing, correct".

Dever: I don't recall.

---

Still, Cox says he has 3000 employees he tries to encourage, and makes it seem like he can barely recall his meeting with Dever and that certainly he didn't even know she was connected with the Karen Read case. Hmmmm.

Just like he pointed out in that interview, I can see Cox saying to Dever in their private meeting with nobody else present, something like, ever so subtly, "If you want to work here and you want to belong here, we will encourage you. Just tell the truth and say the right thing."

And Dever's truth is that she developed a false memory from the media. The only problem with that is that the media never said the two of them (BH+KB) were ever seen together in the sallyport.

 

[Forest_Wood]

That's quite the "episode" of money.

That's an insane amount of money for how many months of work? Would it be a year he worked in that case? $566,000 to Brennan. I wonder how much Lally earned for doing the same work as Brennan. Not nearly as much as what Hank the special prosecutor scored for getting a worse result than Lally. And there's the other female prosecutor too. Then all of those fake experts paid exorbitant amounts of money, $400,000 to one company alone.
All of that taxpayer's money to pin it on the girl because it was a cop who was found on another cop's lawn. However, it's not like that cop died while on duty. That off-duty cop was drunk himself and had broken the law by allowing and encouraging another person to drink and drive him around, even buying her drinks. If that had been a regular citizen found on someone's lawn, all those police departments would have acted so differently and there never would have been a second trial. It's not fair to the average citizen to raise the status of a drunk cop's death simply because they work as a cop by day, and are allowed to do anything they like outside of the law on their time off.
MOO

 

[Younger Sister]

Just heard Hank Brennan was paid $566,000 for the Read trial. Can this really be true. Unbelievable.

 

[Izzylizzy]

Exactly my thoughts. Cox implied he hardly knows Dever because there's over 3000 employees in the BPD. Dever testified she was called in to see him. Dever testified that at least Cox knows how to pronounce her name correctly, unlike AJ.
Cox said he never knew Dever was even involved with the KR case. Cox acts surprised he's being pulled into the Karen Read case. However ...

Dever: I had a conversation, but it was my department saying regardless of what I have to say on the stand, they support me.

AJ: You were invited to go to the commissioner's office?

Dever: Yes. It wasn't a direct line of contact from him.

AJ: Did you go to his office.

Dever: He's my boss, so yes.

AJ: ...At some point did the commissioner say to you that the Boston PD, insofar as your connection to this case is concerned, the Boston Police Department fully supports you.

Dever: Yes.

AJ: Did he also say do the right thing.

Dever: ...I can't recollect that he said a direct quote two years ago.

AJ: A year ago when you talked to the defense, did you tell the defense that when you were called up to the commissioners office, he told you two things.
The Boston Police Department supports you and Officer Dever do the right thing.

Dever: So he said my name correctly...He said nothing with the intent to guide me one way or the other.

Dever: ...He wanted me to tell the truth up here.

AJ: And his words were "do the right thing, correct".

Dever: I don't recall.

---

Still, Cox says he has 3000 employees he tries to encourage, and makes it seem like he can barely recall his meeting with Dever and that certainly he didn't even know she was connected with the Karen Read case. Hmmmm.

Just like he pointed out in that interview, I can see Cox saying to Dever in their private meeting with nobody else present, something like, ever so subtly, "If you want to work here and you want to belong here, we will encourage you. Just tell the truth and say the right thing."

And Dever's truth is that she developed a false memory from the media. The only problem with that is that the media never said the two of them (BH+KB) were ever seen together in the sallyport.

Thanks for the quotes during testimony.
KD said it was the timestamp on the Sally port video of when KR's vehicle arrived that showed her that she wasn't still at the Canton station and had a "false memory". lol
No evidence was ever presented by either side of when she did leave the station that day which I find a bit baffling.
imo

 

[missy1974]

Exactly my thoughts. Cox implied he hardly knows Dever because there's over 3000 employees in the BPD. Dever testified she was called in to see him. Dever testified that at least Cox knows how to pronounce her name correctly, unlike AJ.
Cox said he never knew Dever was even involved with the KR case. Cox acts surprised he's being pulled into the Karen Read case. However ...

Dever: I had a conversation, but it was my department saying regardless of what I have to say on the stand, they support me.

AJ: You were invited to go to the commissioner's office?

Dever: Yes. It wasn't a direct line of contact from him.

AJ: Did you go to his office.

Dever: He's my boss, so yes.

AJ: ...At some point did the commissioner say to you that the Boston PD, insofar as your connection to this case is concerned, the Boston Police Department fully supports you.

Dever: Yes.

AJ: Did he also say do the right thing.

Dever: ...I can't recollect that he said a direct quote two years ago.

AJ: A year ago when you talked to the defense, did you tell the defense that when you were called up to the commissioners office, he told you two things.
The Boston Police Department supports you and Officer Dever do the right thing.

Dever: So he said my name correctly...He said nothing with the intent to guide me one way or the other.

Dever: ...He wanted me to tell the truth up here.

AJ: And his words were "do the right thing, correct".

Dever: I don't recall.

---

Still, Cox says he has 3000 employees he tries to encourage, and makes it seem like he can barely recall his meeting with Dever and that certainly he didn't even know she was connected with the Karen Read case. Hmmmm.

Just like he pointed out in that interview, I can see Cox saying to Dever in their private meeting with nobody else present, something like, ever so subtly, "If you want to work here and you want to belong here, we will encourage you. Just tell the truth and say the right thing."

And Dever's truth is that she developed a false memory from the media. The only problem with that is that the media never said the two of them (BH+KB) were ever seen together in the sallyport.

In light of Cox's personal history... he very well could have been trying to let her know that she is supported even if she has to testify about some of her former LE officers doing shady things. Maybe she didn't understand that message? Maybe the message from her department superiors was not the same?

But it is still does not explain the discrepancy that she says the meeting was about her possible testimony and he says it had nothing to do with it.

all JMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

In light of Cox's personal history... he very well could have been trying to let her know that she is supported even if she has to testify about some of her former LE officers doing shady things. Maybe she didn't understand that message? Maybe the message from her department superiors was not the same?

But it is still does not explain the discrepancy that she says the meeting was about her possible testimony and he says it had nothing to do with it.

all JMO

Did I miss where Cox said that indeed he did have a meeting with Dever?
Even from the little I about what a meeting between a rookie cop/anyone and the top guy would look like I would say that the top guy would have been well versed before the meeting on why he called for it or if it was recommended to him by those involved with the rookie.
IMO

 

[Izzylizzy]

Amazing that Cox skirted being questioned about KD for 5 weeks since her testimony.
imo

 

[LittleSeaTree]

Good points. She’s the only one that stated that she’d been called in, right? I wonder who appointed her to her new coveted position. Imagine if there’s yet another bad apple somewhere within those ranks (under commissioner ) that took it upon themselves to do that. Lord knows that’s possible, to say the least, imo!

I take the above back after seeing the video of Cox pretty much denying the case and calling it ‘much ado about nothing’. Wowwww. Liars liars pants in a raging fire~~

 

[DustysMom]

I take the above back after seeing the video of Cox pretty much denying the case and calling it ‘much ado about nothing’. Wowwww. Liars liars pants in a raging fire~~

These people (Cox, Dever, Morrissey, Canonne, McAlberts) are truly unbelievable! Hoping karma comes to town for them.

 

[missy1974]

Did I miss where Cox said that indeed he did have a meeting with Dever?
Even from the little I about what a meeting between a rookie cop/anyone and the top guy would look like I would say that the top guy would have been well versed before the meeting on why he called for it or if it was recommended to him by those involved with the rookie.
IMO

He doesn't say he didn't meet with her lol

Cox quickly answered, “I have nothing to do with Karen Read. As a matter of fact, I didn’t even know this person was associated with the Karen Read case.

I really wish that someone had asked him why he did meet with her then?

Boston’s top cop questioned about Karen Read case, officer who testified in her murder retrial

Michael Cox answered questions about Karen Read on Thursday, specifically about one of his officers who testified in the Mansfield woman’s high-profile murder retrial.

www.boston25news.com

 

[Derph]

25 Investigates: Read defense demands Boston officer be placed on ‘Brady List’

The letter, addressed to Boston Police Commissioner Michael Cox and obtained exclusively by 25 Investigates, alleges Officer Kelly Dever’s credibility is “irreparably compromised”.

www.boston25news.com

" A Boston Police officer who testified in Karen Read’s murder retrial is now the subject of a scathing letter from Read’s defense attorney, Alan Jackson, who is demanding she be added to Boston’s “Brady List” for officers with credibility issues. The letter, addressed to Boston Police Commissioner Michael Cox and obtained exclusively by 25 Investigates, alleges Officer Kelly Dever’s credibility is “irreparably compromised”."

 

[cocomod]

25 Investigates: Read defense demands Boston officer be placed on ‘Brady List’

The letter, addressed to Boston Police Commissioner Michael Cox and obtained exclusively by 25 Investigates, alleges Officer Kelly Dever’s credibility is “irreparably compromised”.

www.boston25news.com

" A Boston Police officer who testified in Karen Read’s murder retrial is now the subject of a scathing letter from Read’s defense attorney, Alan Jackson, who is demanding she be added to Boston’s “Brady List” for officers with credibility issues. The letter, addressed to Boston Police Commissioner Michael Cox and obtained exclusively by 25 Investigates, alleges Officer Kelly Dever’s credibility is “irreparably compromised”."

Wow!!!!!!!

 

[shotgun09]

The hits just keep on coming !
Brace yourselves for more..... ( imagine dominoes standing up, and falling one by one )
IMO

 

[MerlinFalcon]

The hits keep coming!!!

 

[Izzylizzy]

He doesn't say he didn't meet with her lol
Cox quickly answered, “I have nothing to do with Karen Read. As a matter of fact, I didn’t even know this person was associated with the Karen Read case.

I really wish that someone had asked him why he did meet with her then?

Boston’s top cop questioned about Karen Read case, officer who testified in her murder retrial

Michael Cox answered questions about Karen Read on Thursday, specifically about one of his officers who testified in the Mansfield woman’s high-profile murder retrial.

www.boston25news.com

Cox's word salad that needs tossing.

He could even bring himself to say her name, "Officer Dever", and refers to her as "this person".

The reporters caved big time.
imo

 

[Izzylizzy]

25 Investigates: Read defense demands Boston officer be placed on ‘Brady List’

The letter, addressed to Boston Police Commissioner Michael Cox and obtained exclusively by 25 Investigates, alleges Officer Kelly Dever’s credibility is “irreparably compromised”.

www.boston25news.com

" A Boston Police officer who testified in Karen Read’s murder retrial is now the subject of a scathing letter from Read’s defense attorney, Alan Jackson, who is demanding she be added to Boston’s “Brady List” for officers with credibility issues. The letter, addressed to Boston Police Commissioner Michael Cox and obtained exclusively by 25 Investigates, alleges Officer Kelly Dever’s credibility is “irreparably compromised”."