Found Deceased MA - Zachary Marr, 22, Boston, 13 Feb 2016 #1

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  • #961
I think you might be right, Dionysia. If there isn't video of him meeting with or going somewhere else after the Bell in Hand, then it sounds like he was trying to get to North Station. That might also explain him being seen on video around the Museum of Science (if you overshot the Garden, I guess you could end up near MoS, but it's like a quarter mile or so further west of the Garden area, also on water and a bridge. This is just starting to sound a like an all-over walk around that area of town trying to find a train I guess.
 
  • #962
Harvard MA is a 10 hour walk. Zach was headed towards north station.

But if he's on the bridge, he has gone well past North Station, heading north away from it, not heading toward it.

I suppose he could have been in Cambridge and was walking back south across the Charles to get to North Station, but the bridge at the Museum of Science is a more obvious and accessible route. The highways and bridges on the north side of the river are way up in the air. I'm not even sure they can be accessed.

There's a place near North Station, at the edge of the parking lot where it runs beside the tracks, where it would be relatively easy to get onto the tracks. I think you could also get on from the train station, if it was open.
 
  • #963
I think come 2pm the doors to North Station are locked and the entrance to the commuter rails station is closed/locked. Perhaps when he found this out - or if he had trouble finding a/the entrance, he started walking behind, around, over by MoS, thought of going to the Cambridge side, who knows.
 
  • #964
Trying to find something or someone. There's not a lot going on in the Nashua St. / Causeway St. area after 2 am, especially when there's no event at the Garden and it's frigid out. If he was trying to cross over into Charlestown, there's also not a lot there either in terms of restaurants / cafes, especially at that time of night. It's a mostly industrial area, though there is a Marriott Residence Inn right over the bridge in Charlestown.
 
  • #965
Totally agree, and the only thing at TD Garden that Fri. night was Disney at 7pm.
 
  • #966
If you aren't familiar with North Station and/or are a bit intoxicated or freezing, you can easily miss the entrance to TD Garden and the Commuter Rail at North Station. I bet that's what Zach did and instead went around the back towards the tracks.
Even being very familiar with it, I have walked right by it when on the other side of the street (and the side I think he would probably walking on having walked that exact route quite a few times). And that's was during the day and evening. I have no doubt he was probably in a very confused and disoriented state due to the extreme cold and just missed the station.
 
  • #967
The Science Park T stop is there too (in the MoS vicinity). So maybe he was trying that after no-go at North Station.
 
  • #968
I can sort of piece together in my head what could have happened. Obviously, this is just my own musings, based on what we know.

  • Zach leaves the Bell in Hand for a cigarette
  • While outside, he decides he doesn't want to continue the night. Maybe he's tired or doesn't like that bar very much
  • Knowing his friends might not be so keen to end the night, he tells them he can't get back in, hoping they will come straight out and they can all head off
  • They don't come outside immediately and it's freezing cold, so Zach decides to try and catch a train
  • His group then try calling him but Zach has made up his mind and can't be bothered with the hassle of his friends trying to get him to stay out and go somewhere else. Maybe he thinks he'll check in with them when he's safely on a train
  • In the dark and cold Zach gets a bit turned around and ends up taking a slightly wrong route but thinks he can correct himself with a bit of a shortcut, and falls into the water through the gaps underfoot which he doesn't even know are there
 
  • #969
I can sort of piece together in my head what could have happened. Obviously, this is just my own musings, based on what we know.

  • Zach leaves the Bell in Hand for a cigarette
  • While outside, he decides he doesn't want to continue the night. Maybe he's tired or doesn't like that bar very much
  • Knowing his friends might not be so keen to end the night, he tells them he can't get back in, hoping they will come straight out and they can all head off
  • They don't come outside immediately and it's freezing cold, so Zach decides to try and catch a train
  • His group then try calling him but Zach has made up his mind and can't be bothered with the hassle of his friends trying to get him to stay out and go somewhere else. Maybe he thinks he'll check in with them when he's safely on a train
  • In the dark and cold Zach gets a bit turned around and ends up taking a slightly wrong route but thinks he can correct himself with a bit of a shortcut, and falls into the water through the gaps underfoot which he doesn't even know are there

I feel like that is totally, exactly what happened. Maybe he was upset they didn't come out right away, maybe he had exchanged words with somebody inside, and that's why he stopped communicating with them. I could see why his fam may not say that, I'm sure they feel awful if anything like that did happen. Who really knows. Either way I don't think he meant to fall into the water. I really feel for his family, especially his dad. To lose your mom and your son so close together.. just really breaks my heart.
 
  • #970
If you use google maps and map in 45 Union St. Bell and Hand, and 135 Causeway St. North Station you'll get a clear map of where they are in relation to one another. It would be helpful to know how they were supposed to get home, but they don't seem to be releasing that info or talking about it (I would think the cousins would have mentioned it, ie we were going to take a cab or uber, or we were going to meet at the car, or we were getting a ride from a friend...). If his phone died, there should have been plenty of people that were leaving the bar that he could have borrowed a phone from to call his cousins, or even asked at Bell and Hand-the staff would have been there late cleaning up after the patrons left. Maybe a late night pizza place still open to get warm and borrow a phone? I guess if he thought he missed everyone he would have no choice but to start walking, but if anything I would think he would head towards cousin's house...did she live in Southie or Somerville?
 
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Dear God what a tragedy. As I said Haymarket station is on the otherside of BIH! If someone could've told him you don't have to walk anywhere, this will take you right to North Station. Orange line hooks up to green line/ blue line and commuter rail.


If I could guess I would say his phone ran out of charge and went to voicemail when the cousin called him?? This poor boy! I keep saying if only... My prayers are and have been with this young man and his family.
 
  • #974
It could be a while. :( Bodies tend to sink in the cold water, then rise as decomposition begins. When the water's cold like this, the whole process slows down.
 
  • #975
Horrible. My heart is really broken for his family.

Mine too. Their lives will be forever darker now... Things that may have once brought happy memories, New England winter, the city of Boston, ect... will be shadowed by the pain of their loss.

God have mercy.
 
  • #976
I think his phone probably stopped working because of the cold, but regardless of whether that happened or it just ran out of battery, he might not have known the phone numbers for any of the family members he was out with. He probably had his cousins' numbers programmed in his phone. We've all gotten so used to having phone numbers programmed that I think most of us only have a handful of numbers memorized.
 
  • #977
Dear God what a tragedy. As I said Haymarket station is on the otherside of BIH! If someone could've told him you don't have to walk anywhere, this will take you right to North Station. Orange line hooks up to green line/ blue line and commuter rail.

The T had stopped running by then.
 
  • #978
Just thinking about the reports that they were all having such a great night at the club...

" snapchatting one another and saying how they should do this again." This might be the drawback to snapchats. I bet they would love to have those picture messages now.
 
  • #979
Just thinking about the reports that they were all having such a great night at the club...

" snapchatting one another and saying how they should do this again." This might be the drawback to snapchats. I bet they would love to have those picture messages now.

LE can get them. Even though the pics disappear off the app and phone they are saved on the snapchat server. LE has been able to get them in cases of adults soliciting minors, etc iykwim
 
  • #980
LE can get them. Even though the pics disappear off the app and phone they are saved on the snapchat server. LE has been able to get them in cases of adults soliciting minors, etc iykwim

Hmmm... according to this article Snapchat claims they are deleted from the servers, BUT not from the phone!

Huh. Apparently the file extensions are just renamed and made inaccessible so they can be written over...

Change the file extension and they become accessible again... who knew?

http://www.businessinsider.com/snapchat-doesnt-delete-your-private-pictures-2013-5
 
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