Madeleine McCann 3 year old missing in Portugal - Part 4

[GraceBlue]

Wow Madeleine's mom has a BIG SMILE on her face. I thinnk I am being too harsh in judging their appearance as well.

If it were MY child? I would be growing gray hairs, gaining wrinkles, losing way too much weight, getting bags under my eyes, crawling everywhere with dirt underneath my fingernails, looking for my baby and wearing the same clothes for days. I would be called crazy and push myself away from people. But again, thats how I would've handled it, I dont handle stress well at all and I cant imagine how I would behave if my child were kidnapped. But I probably wont be able to smile that big and make it look so real.

 

[SieSie]

Wow Madeleine's mom has a BIG SMILE on her face. I thinnk I am being too harsh in judging their appearance as well.

If it were MY child? I would be growing gray hairs, gaining wrinkles, losing way too much weight, getting bags under my eyes, crawling everywhere with dirt underneath my fingernails, looking for my baby and wearing the same clothes for days. I would be called crazy and push myself away from people. But again, thats how I would've handled it, I dont handle stress well at all and I cant imagine how I would behave if my child were kidnapped. But I probably wont be able to smile that big and make it look so real.

I agree. Although, the mom does look very thin, she just seems so "at ease". I'm like you, I wouldn't even be able to put on makeup or care about my hair or if I wore the same clothes from the day before - I'd be a basket case. I'm glad they have the strength, for their children's sake. Everyone reacts differently, and I guess I shouldn't judge based on a few pictures.

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Well, if they are putting up a good 'front' for the twins...they are being pretty successful! They look like they don't have a care in the world and those photos could be used in any advertisement to sell the park they are living it up in. Very strange indeed. Their PR firm is doing a poor job of gaining public support by allowing these photos to be published worldwide, IMO. (Btw...that is where the money is going...instead of hiring search teams, etc. They hired Lawyers, PR Firm, bought airline tickets around the world, fine dining, flew family in to babysit, are still paying for the resort, and the like! Again..IMO)

 

[CarpeDiem]

From the caption on picture #10 at Sky News Pictures:
While I'm glad to hear they're bringing in a professional to help them explain to the twins about Maddie, I'm wondering why they haven't done that before now? What have they been telling the twins when they ask where Maddie is now???

They think she is on a trip. They point at her pictures in recognition, but then go about something else.

 

[Jdee]

In all the kidnapping/missing children cases I have ever followed I have never seen the parent or parents smiling in any pics. Not this soon after the child went missing... maybe later on down the road... I do feel for these parents but I don't understand their actions and I have tried not to sit in judgment and point.
For me the smiles are for their left twins because an all the time depressed parent taking care of babies cannot be healthy... But still the smiles bug me too. I think they should have saved those smiles for private times with the twins and not for the news media. Of course I am sure that was hard with the media following them around all the time...

 

[MoonGoddess]

They make Aruba look good. That's bad. :banghead:

Why aren't the McCann's hiring dogs, hiring volunteers, spending the million people have donated on SEARCHING.

I guess because they cant be seen to be going against the police enquiry...having said that I wouldn't give a stuff, I truly would be scouring every inch of that place if I thought my precious child could be there. There again, I think with the 'religious' beliefs, they cant be seen to be going against the Church either and giving credence to messages from 'the other side'........

 

[CarpeDiem]

Heck, I'm really trying hard not to judge the pics either, but I'm not feeling them, not connecting with the two of them together. Ugh. I am also trying to keep in mind that Kate is a very attractive woman and her worst day would be like my best. LOL. Seriously, she couldn't be more tan, the blonde highlights, she's in great shape, has nice teeth. She's quite photogenic. The two of them, both doctors - power couple, beyond beautiful kids, all three are gorgeous and perfect - they had it ALL. I've considered more than once if the motive here is jealousy on someone's part.

 

[CarpeDiem]

I guess because they cant be seen to be going against the police enquiry...having said that I wouldn't give a stuff, I truly would be scouring every inch of that place if I thought my precious child could be there. There again, I think with the 'religious' beliefs, they cant be seen to be going against the Church either and giving credence to messages from 'the other side'........

Great points!!

 

[colomom]

They make Aruba look good. That's bad. :banghead:

Why aren't the McCann's hiring dogs, hiring volunteers, spending the million people have donated on SEARCHING.

Boy, that's the million dollar question isn't it?

Gerry's Blog says:
"14th of June 2007
Day 42
Six weeks since Madeleine disappeared. We believe Madeleine is alive and I am glad to say that following yesterday's letter in the Telegraaf (Netherlands) there has been no evidence that Madeliene is in the area indicated although there will be further searches tomorrow."

From: http://www.thesun.co.uk/article/0,,2005320001-2007210829,00.html
"THE father of missing Madeleine McCann today vowed his family will leave “no stone unturned” in the search for their daughter."

GERRY!! Get out there and start turning over stones!

Praying hard for Maddie!

 

[MoonGoddess]

SieSie[/b];1533804]From the caption on picture #10 at Sky News Pictures:

I'm cutting/pasting from your post to save on space:-

But I found another one that is just as curious (to me, at least). In the above picture, you can tell they're posing and doing something extra fun with the kids, but in the picture below, all they're doing is walking along a wooden bridge and look at how "comfortable" and "normal" they appear.
http://i11.tinypic.com/4qdzmuu.jpg

I hadn't seen that one before...... I agree with you, that it is just as "curious"

was interested to read your 2 scenarios. And I would lean more towards 2, apart from their subsequent behaviour, the 'shutter' contradiction has always bothered me, there has been no evidence that the shutter was used by the alleged abductor-in fact I'm sure it has been confirmed that it wasn't. I accept that they may have panicked if scenario 1 has credence, and on realising how easy they made the abduction by leaving the patio door open, interfered with the shutters to make it look like that was the place of entry and removal.....either way this shows deception.

As I'm leaning towards 2:-

** Scenario #2 - you would feel more guilt than fear. You would already know that your child is gone and not coming back, you would not have to "wonder" what is happening to your child. You would have a tremendous amount of guilt and possibly anger at the other spouse. You would be worried that the police WILL find her, because it could be linked back to you.

I think apart from guilt and fear, there would also be a certain amount of 'relief' that to now nothing is proved and they are safe, I think it crucial that her body be found and then it would be a whole new different story. If they are aware that their daughter is laying nearby, it accounts for them jetting off all over the place to deflect attention from the local area.

I'm wondering if theres a bit of a cat and mouse game going on with them and the police.

I wonder what a 'body language' expert would make of them.

 

[CarpeDiem]

Don't you all wonder why the perp choose Maddie? Three or four other couples in their group were also leaving their kids alone. I can't get over that in none of the interviews in all these countries that no one has asked about the other couples. Was Maddie really the easiest target (there were two sleeping toddlers in the room with her), is it because their apartment was so convenient? She wasn't the only blonde little girl in the group. Six weeks later and we still know zero about those other people. NOT even to speak one word in defense of the McCann's or Maddie, and they were with them all week!

 

[colomom]

Wow Madeleine's mom has a BIG SMILE on her face. I thinnk I am being too harsh in judging their appearance as well.

If it were MY child? I would be growing gray hairs, gaining wrinkles, losing way too much weight, getting bags under my eyes, crawling everywhere with dirt underneath my fingernails, looking for my baby and wearing the same clothes for days. I would be called crazy and push myself away from people. But again, thats how I would've handled it, I dont handle stress well at all and I cant imagine how I would behave if my child were kidnapped. But I probably wont be able to smile that big and make it look so real.

I would be on MAJOR drugs and a suicide watch. I doubt that I would be able to leave my bed. My mom or my brother would have to come take my other child back home with them. But, I am like you GraceBlue, I don't do stress well at all. I have seen pictures of Kate where she looks much older now, compared to the B&W family picture. I have seen pictures where she obviously has been crying.

It really bugs me that they haven't hired every private detective they could find considering how much money they have accumulated. Has anyone read about what they are doing with the money?

Also, you guys have not responded to my question about the "swinging". Have you discussed this previously? Kinky sex/pedophiles....boggles the mind what could have happened.

 

[CarpeDiem]

Also, you guys have not responded to my question about the "swinging". Have you discussed this previously?

We haven't. I'm personally trying to stay away from that because I don't know how relevant it might be. It sure wasn't with the Van Dam case, the parents were humiliated on the stand. It didn't have an ounce of relevance to the kidnapping and murder of their precious daughter.

At any rate, something big is holding the other couples back from coming out for Maddie, despite child neglect charges. With them all being Dr.'s, I guess they feel they have way to much to lose. Maddie may lose her life though.

 

[colomom]

And I would lean more towards 2, apart from their subsequent behaviour, the 'shutter' contradiction has always bothered me, there has been no evidence that the shutter was used by the alleged abductor-in fact I'm sure it has been confirmed that it wasn't. I accept that they may have panicked if scenario 1 has credence, and on realising how easy they made the abduction by leaving the patio door open, interfered with the shutters to make it look like that was the place of entry and removal.....either way this shows deception.

I found this article about the window/door situation:

From: http://www.24dash.com/communities/20220.htm

"The door was lying open, the window in the bedroom and the shutters had been jemmied open.

"Nothing had been touched in the apartment, no valuables taken, no passports. They think someone must have come in the window and gone out the door with her."

Has this been proven to be inaccurate? The easy access to the window and the way it was in the back of the building and in a fairly secluded area and probably pretty dark, it seems logical that it was the point of entry.

CarpeDiem: Thanks for the reply, I won't go there then.

 

[MoonGoddess]

I would be on MAJOR drugs and a suicide watch. I doubt that I would be able to leave my bed. My mom or my brother would have to come take my other child back home with them. But, I am like you GraceBlue, I don't do stress well at all. I have seen pictures of Kate where she looks much older now, compared to the B&W family picture. I have seen pictures where she obviously has been crying.

It really bugs me that they haven't hired every private detective they could find considering how much money they have accumulated. Has anyone read about what they are doing with the money?

Also, you guys have not responded to my question about the "swinging". Have you discussed this previously? Kinky sex/pedophiles....boggles the mind what could have happened.

I thought this was quite interesting, this happened less than 7 weeks before Maddie:-

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/global/article1532916.ece

Spain’s sun-kissed Canary Islands, where thousands of British holidaymakers will shortly head, have been convulsed by the disappearance of a 7-year-old boy, the second time in recent months that a child has gone missing in mysterious circumstances.


"They have taken my son and are doing something awful to him,” said his disconsolate mother, Ithaysa, who is just 24-years old and has another one-year-old baby.
Family members have said they have scarcely been able to eat or sleep since Yeremi disappeared nine days ago on the archipelago’s third largest island. The mother has had to be sedated.

Now that to me is how a mother would react, and this poor woman has a one year old to think of........

 

[MoonGoddess]

Don't you all wonder why the perp choose Maddie? Three or four other couples in their group were also leaving their kids alone. I can't get over that in none of the interviews in all these countries that no one has asked about the other couples. Was Maddie really the easiest target (there were two sleeping toddlers in the room with her), is it because their apartment was so convenient? She wasn't the only blonde little girl in the group. Six weeks later and we still know zero about those other people. NOT even to speak one word in defense of the McCann's or Maddie, and they were with them all week!

I personally think they have kept quiet because of the criticism levelled at leaving their kids whilst they all partied, and risking losing their Dr's Licence if seen to be negligent. I am also amazed at how the McCanns nanny has stayed out of the limelight.

Re why Maddie was taken, if she was taken, I dont know how many of the others were on the ground floor, the McCanns apartment being on the corner I think would have been more attractive to a potential 'perp'. What is strange tho, one thing that is known is that Maddie was the oldest child in the group - surely being the oldest she could have put up the most resistance?

 

[CarpeDiem]

CarpeDiem: Thanks for the reply, I won't go there then.

Who know's, with this case it could shed some light (there is none now, just a lot of things that don't make sense). It just didn't matter with the Van Dam's case and the Defense knew it.

 

[CarpeDiem]

I personally think they have kept quiet because of the criticism levelled at leaving their kids whilst they all partied, and risking losing their Dr's Licence if seen to be negligent. I am also amazed at how the McCanns nanny has stayed out of the limelight.

Re why Maddie was taken, if she was taken, I dont know how many of the others were on the ground floor, the McCanns apartment being on the corner I think would have been more attractive to a potential 'perp'. What is strange tho, one thing that is known is that Maddie was the oldest child in the group - surely being the oldest she could have put up the most resistance?

And they say she was not a shy child.

 

[MoonGoddess]

colomom:-

Trish Cameron, Mr McCann’s sister, said she received a telephone call from her 39-year-old brother, a consultant cardiologist, who was "hysterical and crying his eyes out".
She said: "They had put the kids to bed at 7pm and checked on them every half an hour as they had dinner nearby with the rest of the party. Gerry said the window was open, the shutters broken and the door, which had been locked, hanging open.
"Kate came screaming back to the group crying, 'They've taken her, they've taken her'. Gerry was crying and roaring like a bull.
..............
Jon Corner, a close friend of Mrs McCann and godparent of the twins, said she telephoned him in the middle of the night distraught.
He said: "She just blurted out that Madeleine had been abducted. She told me, 'They have broken the shutter on the window and taken my little girl.'
"They had left the apartment locked while they were having their meal, but when they went back the last time they saw the damage.
"First they saw one of the window shutters had been forced, and then they saw the door was open and the bed was empty - and Madeleine was gone.

What started to emerge later on is:-

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/liv...n_page_id=1770

Until now, it was believed that shutters at the front of the apartment had been jemmied open by the little girl's abductors. But Chief Inspector Olegario Sousa, spokesman for the investigation, has confided in British former Chief Inspector Albert Kirby that neither the windows nor their shutters had been tampered with.

Mr Kirby, who led the investigation into the abduction and murder of Liverpool-born toddler Jamie Bulger, revealed that it was the unlocked patio doors of the apartment that allowed Madeleine to be taken away swiftly and quietly.


Gerry and Kate McCann would have used the patio doors as they checked on their daughter and her twin siblings during their meal near the Mark Warner holiday complex swimming pool and it is these doors that were left unsecured. The McCanns and all their friends on the holiday left their patio doors open throughout the evenings for fear of fire.


Mr Kirby told The Mail on Sunday: "I had a very interesting chat with the officer in charge. The window shutters are not an issue. "Their mechanism makes them almost impossible to open. The door was left unlocked. They did that every night.

 

[MoonGoddess]

And they say she was not a shy child.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/6692161.stm
++++++++++++++++++
'Little ringleader'
She is very funny and often a little ringleader in nursery and with her friends," he said……
and still believed the "extroverted, vivacious and lively" little girl would be found safe and well.

I accept that if she was abducted she would have been drowsy from sleep-especially if she was given a dose of phenergen or calpol to make sure she did sleep whilst they partied, but surely she would be wriggling and saying 'where's mummy/daddy....there would have to have been a car right outside the apartment, surely you wouldn't risk carrying a child down the street who might be putting up resistance...ok something - chlorophorm(sp) may have been used to sedate her....but wouldn't that have shown up in the forensics? I've also wondered, was there a sheet or towel missing from the apartment that was used to wrap her in-if so why not put out an appeal for anyone that may have found such an item dumped, or did the 'perp' go prepared with their own 'cover'.................too much just doesn't add up with 'Team McCanns' account of events.

P.S. sorry if I'm taking up a lot of space.