Madeleine McCann General Discussion Thread #27

[Estelle]

Did Jim Gamble Sanitize Gerry McCann's CATS File 19309?

http://goodqualitywristbands.blogspot.com/2012/01/did-jim-gamble-sanitize-gerry-mccanns.html

Cartas Rogatorias Vol III
Page 27

Leicestershire Police Force

From: DC443 J.N. HUGHES
To: SIO, Operation Task
Department: Main Crime Unit
Date: 16th May 2008
Refª

Subject: Background Information- Gerald McCANN


Dear Sirs

In response to your letter of request, I can provide the following information regarding the above-mentioned subject

Gerald McCann was born on June 5, 1968 in Scotland.

He is the bearer of British passport No **********.

He lives with his wife and children at Orchard House, 5 The Crescent, Rothley, Leicestershire, LE7 7RW.

The house is subject to a mortgage for the amount of GBP 323.493 with the Northern Rock Bank.

There is no report or statement of bank credit cards listed in the research carried out. However I was alerted to the fact that if an individuals maintains an open account with the same bank or a credit card for a long period of time, these details do not appear in this type of research.

He works for the NHS as a cardiologist at Glenfield hospital.

His previous address was 14 Queniborough Hall Drive, Queniborough, Leicestershire, LE7 3DZ.

His phone number is ******** and he has a mobile phone Vodafone No **********.

He is the owner of two vehicles registered in the PNC, a light blue Volkswagen Passat - R119 and a green BVV VW Touran, FM54 CXR.

No record was found in the National Police Computer. Search reference NE91/0031.

A search of the crime location and information system only indicates that Mr McCann was the victim of a theft of golf clubs from inside his car in the drive way to his home on 01/04/2006. Criminal Reference NQ/010145/06-9

A search of the local section of the child abuse shows a registration number 19309 in the CATS system. A consultation with the DC Soand from the department in question confirms that this is just a file reference, but as a complement to Operation Task system for the purpose of reference, if any investigation should be necessary by the department. No work has been done on the basis of this file.

An examination of all other police files using a search system does not reveal any information about him.

Submitted for your information.


CATS - Case Administration and Tracking System - was developed in the absence of a national database for Child Protection, and in light of recommendation 104 in Lord Laming's report into the death of Victoria Climbie. That is, Chief Constables must ensure that their police force has in use an effective Child Protection database and IT management system. CATS has two modules - Child Protection and Domestic Abuse. CATS can also be configured to record information about Vulnerable Adults if required. Note - The Domestic Abuse module was developed later to complement the Child Protection system.

CATS allows for the effective supervision and management of all police child abuse investigations and referrals including data checks, strategy meeting records, medical examinations, DVD interviews, police protection issues, joint investigation details, supervisor reviews, initial case conferences and review conferences.

Why is there an empty CATS file on Gerry McCann? Surely it was opened for a purpose?

 

[Donjeta]

So, what's then a likely scenario for you involving the dog findings? GM and KM hiding Maddie's deceased body behind a couch somewhere after more than 90mins she had died from an accident that afternoon and then both parents switched to perfectly normal behaviors at dinner time? Or do you think about some scenario with a burglar/abductor killing her (which makes the sofa finding very difficult to explain)? Just curious to learn how you want to connect the dots!

Not sure I have connected them, I am willing to consider all theories.
How do you think a crime scene tech or one of the McCanns managed to smear bits of a previous corpse behind a sofa ?

I have tried to stay away from the dog debates as they don't seem to take us anywhere. There's no way to settle from an alert whether it was a false alert to something that came from a living person, or if it was a dead person whether it was Madeleine or someone else, and if it was Madeleine, how did she die. You can't ask the dogs and the tests were inconclusive.

It just doesn't seem to me like crime scene techs and doctors would contaminate scenes with bits of formerly handled dead bodies so frequently that we could call it a self-fulfilling prophecy. Everyone whose job is to take samples has been trained to take procedures to avoid that.

Occasionally crime scene technicians contaminate the scene with their own DNA or end up investigating the fingerprints or the footprints of a first responder because they always have their DNA with them and everyone has to walk but I think contaminating the scene with cadaver odor from somewhere they were earlier would be more difficult to do.

 

[Donjeta]

Well yes i used to hand down clothing, but to be honest I would never be able to say what pyjamas my child was wearing on a particular night 6 years previously.

AND IF I HAD them for evidence, then I would have already SPOKEN to the police about them anyway in 2007....

Smoke and Mirrors........

You can't compare whether you remember your child's pajamas on any random night six years ago to remembering a certain night when a child vanished in your neighborhood if there is a sketch published that you recognize yourself and your child's pajamas from.

JMO I think you would tend to remember that sort of thing.

It's a bit like 9/11 or Kennedy's murder or other shocking, extraordinary things like that. Almost everyone remembers where they were when they heard about those the first time but ask anyone where they were the day before, they've got no idea.

And he was on a holiday. If he's one of those people who take a million photos on holidays he could very possibly document everything his kids wore every day of the week

He might have come forward in 2007, or he might not. Not every witness does the right thing.

I don't know what would be the point of DNA testing the pajamas after six years. Whoever wore them that night, or even if no one did, there could be anyone's DNA on the pajamas from something that happened before or after that night. Apart from finding Madeleine's DNA on them which I don't think anyone's expecting, nothing that was found or wasn't found would mean much.

 

[Estelle]

I am interested in hearing about everyone's theories about WHEN, HOW, WHY Maddie died and WHO you think did it.

Most of you on this forum seem to think that Maddie died or was abducted on May 3.

But have you ever thought of the possibility that Maddie could have died earlier that week? IMO how could she have died just before dinner, the parents found out and then they go to wine and dine as if nothing happened? I am not buying that. The McCanns are often described as "strange" but I do not think they are that "strange". They would have been in SHOCK.

So if dogs don't lie, why couldn't Maddie have died the night before?

I would like you to read this theory and tell us what you think. It is not my theory. I have a different theory but will not concern anyone with that now. It is very long so you will need to go the website to read it all as she covers most things. This is an excerpt:

"I believe that Madeleine died some time after 20:00 on May 2nd.

It had been a disastrous week with bad weather and without support from Gerry for Kate with the difficult task of bringing the children to bed. Gerry, who preferred to play tennis in the evening, had ignored Kate at dinner and flirted with the aerobics teacher on Tuesday. When he left the apartment again, after only being there for a quick shower after his "Beating the Pro" tennis event until 19:30, heading off again to the Tapas and leaving Kate behind with screaming kids, the situation escalated on Wednesday.

IMO Madeleine threw an extraordinary tantrum on the playground that carried on in the apartment, an incident Jane Tanner attributed to her own daughter and which was mentioned for the first time in her rogatory interview. According to her statement the crying stopped abruptly. IMO Madeleine died at this moment as a result of a blow while standing on the sofa trying to see her father who passed the window via the road below with his friend Russell. Presumably she hit her head on the windowsill or when hitting the floor behind the sofa. The crying stopped abruptly.

This special crying incident had never been mentioned before because it was just too dangerous. But they knew that a Mrs. Fenn had contacted the Police regarding the crying at Tuesday night. When the rogatories were conducted, the files had not yet been released and so they did not know that Mrs. Fenn had not been at home on the Wednesday. They suspected that she had heard the crying of the Wednesday as well and with Jane's statement wanted to pre-empt the Police should this question arise.

During the night of May 2nd it was decided to cover-up the death. The children needed their mother,who would possibly be charged with manslaughter, their careers would be ruined, the insufficient child monitoring, the nightly crying, everything would become apparent. That would make the whole group accomplices, since they all had the same relaxed attitude towards the monitoring of their children some much younger than Madeleine. Their futures would be ruined as well. With this reasoning the other parents could have been pressurised to support the cover-up. Dianne Webster though, was not trusted, she would be kept out of this knowledge.

With the initial plan there was no need for lies or deception by the friends. They would just have to act as staffage in a staged show the next evening. All they needed to do was pretend to not know. No lies would be necessary for the friends according to the initial plan. An easy way out for them. This imo applies at least for the couples Tanner/O'Brien and Oldfield who did not have a baby monitor with them. Unlike the Payne's who still complied with the cover-up although they were the proud owners of such a device. As to their reasons I can guess but won't elaborate.

The theory continues here:

http://unterdenteppichgekehrt.blogspot.com.au/p/theory-english.html

 

[Inana]

I thought they were the little sister's.

Nope.

Pyjama photo’s

2nd photo down, Purchased by McCanns: http://www.mccannfiles.com/id30.html
<O
17th photo down, Photo of pyjama’s kept by creche man:
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id464.html Evidence: The girl seen at 9.15pm wore distinctive pyjamas and the prime suspect also brought these to police to prove his innocence. <O></O>

 

[Pisces Cloud]

IMO this is not true. PJ never done this.
They even questioned the dog handler about the dogs going around same places and alerting some place after several times passing without not alerting.

Plus PJ asked a question about the cuddle cut, cannot remember now but it was something why the dogs alerted on the cuddle cut only when the handler showed them to do so.

We can't know for sure whether one or two corrupt cops thought they'd move the case along because they were convinced that the McCanns were involved or they wanted the case to end because of the media glare. I've heard that all is needed in the apartment scenario is a piece of cloth from a dead body, wiped around the place. It isn't as if the Portuguese police didn't have accusations of corruption levelled at them before, either.

 

[Redgoblin]

I still think TM could still be a plausible suspect. For one he had previous for another crime, secondly he was heroin addict so had a clear motive for burglary, three his cell phone pings place him at the location of the complex.

His so called friend even has him down as a heroin addict which by itself is not an indication of guilt, but it does give credence to developing a motive for going back to old haunt in order to commit a crime.

There are many cases historically where the perp has a previous record of criminal activity, look at the Tia Sharpe case, these people are often on the edge of society for various personal as well as social economic reasons, some people in the UK class them as scrotes (as in scrotum sack), which is an unsavoury term for someone who is fairly dodgy and is also associated with recreational and habitual drug use, as well as petty theft. IMO from what we've been told he fits the bill.

Of course not every person of this type would go on to commit murder or be desperate enough to kidnap a child, but the potential to commit more serious crime is more likely than a regular person because of the factors I've already stated.

Then again his wife could be completely correct about him and he's been made a scapegoat?

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[haden]

We can't know for sure whether one or two corrupt cops thought they'd move the case along because they were convinced that the McCanns were involved or they wanted the case to end because of the media glare. I've heard that all is needed in the apartment scenario is a piece of cloth from a dead body, wiped around the place. It isn't as if the Portuguese police didn't have accusations of corruption levelled at them before, either.

It is true that Amaral was pushing for his one thesis very stubbornly and without the proper underlining of scientific support.
That is same as any of us here pushing with our own theories.. and not giving up on them.. only Amaral was in a different position, he was the highest up official in this case.
This is why he is unprofessional! The labs telling you something that would disapprove your theory and then you think the labs are corrupt, the government is corrupt and slowly everyone who doesn't agree with your theory becomes corrupt. Only you are correct.
This is not how the professionals work.
It starts blinding your view and soon you maybe miss some other relevant leads because you exclude them, as they don't fit into your 'theory'

So, yes, he or whoever was his helper under him, they smeared the investigation into only going one way.. which is a crime of its own..

But, no, I never seen any proof that they would compromise the crime scene to prove their 'thesis'

 

[Donjeta]

Nope.

Pyjama photo&#8217;s

2nd photo down, Purchased by McCanns: http://www.mccannfiles.com/id30.html
<O
17th photo down, Photo of pyjama&#8217;s kept by creche man:
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id464.html Evidence: The girl seen at 9.15pm wore distinctive pyjamas and the prime suspect also brought these to police to prove his innocence. <O></O>

I know they showed the photos but I don't see where that says when the pyjamas were purchased or for whom.
The caption just says

The McCanns show the pyjamas Madeleine is alleged to have been wearing, Berlin 06 June 2007

It was reported that the little sister A. had similar ones


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-459927/Madeleine-Exhausted-McCanns-Crimewatch-TV-appeal.html

Holding up a small pair of pink and flowery pyjamas, Kate McCann described exactly what her eldest daughter was wearing when she was snatched on May 3.
The poignant description was given as part of BBC1's Crimewatch appeal to help the couple find their little girl.
Looking exhausted, she spoke in detail about the light pink top with capped sleeves and a picture of the cartoon character Eeyore curled up - the words "Sleepy Eeyore" written underneath.
Next she produced white cotton pyjama bottoms, covered with small flowers and another Eeyore motif on the right leg.

But, of course, the pyjamas she was holding so carefully in her lap were not Madeleine's, but those of Madeleine's younger sister, two-year-old Amelie.
Gerry McCann then spoke in detail about the suspect seen carrying what was thought to be a child on the night Madeleine disappeared.

Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Canns-Crimewatch-TV-appeal.html#ixzz2jTs0jPD0
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Anyway, it's not important I suppose. Just makes more sense to me than the McCanns going out to buy similar ones because the pictures were out a week after the disappearance and I don't think they had been back to England at that point to buy anything.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-454029/Search-Madeleine--police-release-pyjamas-wearing.html

Smiling wanly, Mrs McCann looked down at the pyjamas in her lap and added:
"These are virtually identical, but these are little bit smaller because they are Amelie's."

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I suppose it's possible they also bought another set afterwards to give to the police because there is a set in evidence that is said to be the same size Madeleine was wearing, not smaller. But this is dated in June
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PORTUGUESE-FORENSIC.htm

 

[Pisces Cloud]

I am interested in hearing about everyone's theories about WHEN, HOW, WHY Maddie died and WHO you think did it.

Most of you on this forum seem to think that Maddie died or was abducted on May 3.

But have you ever thought of the possibility that Maddie could have died earlier that week? IMO how could she have died just before dinner, the parents found out and then they go to wine and dine as if nothing happened? I am not buying that. The McCanns are often described as "strange" but I do not think they are that "strange". They would have been in SHOCK.

So if dogs don't lie, why couldn't Maddie have died the night before?

I would like you to read this theory and tell us what you think. It is not my theory. I have a different theory but will not concern anyone with that now. It is very long so you will need to go the website to read it all as she covers most things. This is an excerpt:



The theory continues here:

http://unterdenteppichgekehrt.blogspot.com.au/p/theory-english.html

I can't help but think that this case somehow involved Sergey Malinka and possibly Murat. I think Madeleine was taken sometime after Gerry and Tanner returned to the bar and before Kate returned to the apartment at 10. I think the little girl was taken to the car park and then driven off. That very short late night phone call between SM and RM, which neither could recall, could have been to say that it had been done. Just over a week later RM suddenly hires a rental car and when asked by the police why he hadn't accounted for the whole 700 km on the clock, he claimed that he didn't drive that far, only about 100-200 km. I think he did drive somewhere related to all this. Sadly, that is when something probably happened to Madeleine, because of the huge media spotlight that was surrounding her disappearance.

Also, just over a year later, I think, something strange happened with regards to SM. He claimed that someone had set his car on fire. Did he have this car at the time of the disappearance and if so was it forensically checked? If someone did fire-bomb it, why?

 

[Cherwell]

So reading through Paynes testimony, there's a lot that gives me pause. His demeanor comes off as strange, his memory is vague, he stammers so much and seems nervous. But then I also had to remind myself that this guy would have been totally traumatized by this whole event, everyone there would have been. .

With all the ERRRS and you knows I would say he had something to hide.

His communication skills are rubbish.

Its almost evasive...errrrrr you know...NO I DONT KNOW...

I taught communication this guy has something to hide.

I've always been struck by how inarticulate all these people appear to be. You can make some allowance for shock etc of course, but they all come over the same way in later interviews as well. These are highly educated professionals, yet they can barely string a sentence together.

 

[~n/t~]

I can't help but think that this case somehow involved Sergey Malinka and possibly Murat. I think Madeleine was taken sometime after Gerry and Tanner returned to the bar and before Kate returned to the apartment at 10. I think the little girl was taken to the car park and then driven off. That very short late night phone call between SM and RM, which neither could recall, could have been to say that it had been done. Just over a week later RM suddenly hires a rental car and when asked by the police why he hadn't accounted for the whole 700 km on the clock, he claimed that he didn't drive that far, only about 100-200 km. I think he did drive somewhere related to all this. Sadly, that is when something probably happened to Madeleine, because of the huge media spotlight that was surrounding her disappearance.

Also, just over a year later, I think, something strange happened with regards to SM. He claimed that someone had set his car on fire. Did he have this car at the time of the disappearance and if so was it forensically checked? If someone did fire-bomb it, why?

I respect your opinion as I do with all other members opinions. As we know, Murat was ruled out and is not a suspect in this case. Even the McCanns apologized for implicating him. He was a nosy neighbour who wanted to know what was going on and that's what made him suspicious. The efit that Tanner produced which is no longer valid didn't even look like Murat. As for SM, his only involvement was his connection with Murat. He was considered a witness in the case and not a suspect. Unfortunately someone didn't like him and set his car on fire.
http://joana-morais.blogspot.com/2008/03/mccannscase-sergey-malinka-admits-to.html

 

[Donjeta]

I've always been struck by how inarticulate all these people appear to be. You can make some allowance for shock etc of course, but they all come over the same way in later interviews as well. These are highly educated professionals, yet they can barely string a sentence together.

I have spent some time transcribing speech and I think that most of us probably aren't as eloquent and coherent in speech as we think we are... To some extent I believe it's a side effect of transcribing spoken language verbatim. Really verbatim, and not the newspaper quote kind of verbatim where they leave out the hesitations and broken sentences and parse it again more eloquently to make sense in a written form. When most of us speak there is more of that stuff than we perhaps realize and the flow of speech is such that it makes sense to the listener anyway. But when it's written on the paper it really stands out and looks weird because we're not used to seeing spoken language transcribed in such embarrassing detail.

Certainly some of them could be evasive as well, IDK.

 

[~n/t~]

I know they showed the photos but I don't see where that says when the pyjamas were purchased or for whom.
The caption just says



It was reported that the little sister A. had similar ones


http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-459927/Madeleine-Exhausted-McCanns-Crimewatch-TV-appeal.html


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Anyway, it's not important I suppose. Just makes more sense to me than the McCanns going out to buy similar ones because the pictures were out a week after the disappearance and I don't think they had been back to England at that point to buy anything.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-454029/Search-Madeleine--police-release-pyjamas-wearing.html



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I suppose it's possible they also bought another set afterwards to give to the police because there is a set in evidence that is said to be the same size Madeleine was wearing, not smaller. But this is dated in June
http://www.mccannpjfiles.co.uk/PJ/PORTUGUESE-FORENSIC.htm

The pyjamas were her sister's

But, of course, the pyjamas she was holding so carefully in her lap were not Madeleine's, but those of Madeleine's younger sister, two-year-old Amelie.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Canns-Crimewatch-TV-appeal.html#ixzz2jUHbY692
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[Donjeta]

The pyjamas were her sister's

But, of course, the pyjamas she was holding so carefully in her lap were not Madeleine's, but those of Madeleine's younger sister, two-year-old Amelie.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Canns-Crimewatch-TV-appeal.html#ixzz2jUHbY692
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That's why I quoted that bit...

 

[Estelle]

Cape-Verdeans in Portugal &#8220;repudiate accusations&#8221; against a member of their community and demand a &#8220;serious investigation&#8221;

2 November 2013

The Cape-Verdean community in Portugal is &#8220;shocked&#8221; and &#8220;repudiates&#8221; the news divulged today in the Portuguese press, containing a Judiciary Police source, stating that a Cape-Verdian man was the author of Maddie McCann's abduction. More: They demand &#8220;serious and evidenced&#8221; investigations.

&#8220;This news sullies all the Cape-Verdeans&#8221; and &#8220;is not credible&#8221;, even because of the sophistication of the crime whose authorship was blamed on a Cape-Verdian immigrant. This, in a process that took place &#8220;under the investigations of two police forces of sovereign states and with an active media component&#8221;.

In a statement in name of the Federation of the Organizations of Cape Verde, of the Congress of the Cape-Verdeans in the Diaspora and of the Cape-Verdean Association of Lisbon, the community deplores &#8220;that a citizen who has died is being set up as a scapegoat&#8221;.

They appeal to the whole community to &#8220;be vigilant&#8221;, because this &#8220;serious accusation&#8221;, in a process that is being investigated also by the English police &#8220;maybe be an alibi to excuse the incompetence of the investigations or to cover up lobbies whose purposes are unclear&#8221;.

The press statement undersigned by the associations that represent the Cape-Verdeans in Portugal also states that they were all taken by surprise by the news published in Correio da Manhã, quoting a source of the Portuguese Judiciary Police, that stated that the suspect of the high profile disappearance case, of Madeleine (Maddie) McCann from Aldeia da Luz, in the Algarve, was a Cape-Verdean immigrant, who died in an accident in 2009.

The name of a community sullied

The Cape-Verdean &#8220;in and outside the country&#8221; are being &#8220;sullied&#8221; with this affirmations for which there are no consistent evidences, they are of an &#8220;atrocious opportunism&#8221; of someone who can &#8220;no longer defend himself&#8221;, protest the associations that represent the Cape-Verdeans in Portugal.

The statement also recalls that the whole community also suffered an identical &#8220;denigration&#8221; two decades ago, when it was also published in Portugal a story &#8220;stating that a Cape-Verdean had assassinated a child in Odivelas so he could eat the child's liver&#8221;, a story that was dismissed in &#8220;a small note in an interior page of the same newspaper that had given it the first cover exposure&#8221;.

The representatives of the associations that represent the Cape-Verdeans in Portugal added that they &#8220;have always defended the natural course of Justice&#8221; and that they strive that illegal behaviours always have an adequate and corresponding legal punishment. However, they do not conform with an &#8220;accusation, that is not proven&#8221;, involving an immigrant that &#8220;cannot defend himself of the accusations, which in the Maddie case, may, opportunely, excuse and rest some consciences&#8221;. They verify, that, &#8220;once again history repeats itself: there is a Cape-Verdean suspect (until when?) and a community that feels sullied, again&#8221;.

in A Semana - Cape-Verdean newspaper, November 1, 2013 (Joanamoraisblogspot)

Good on them!

 

[CHERIE.T]

Nope.

Pyjama photo&#8217;s

2nd photo down, Purchased by McCanns: http://www.mccannfiles.com/id30.html
<O
17th photo down, Photo of pyjama&#8217;s kept by creche man:
http://www.mccannfiles.com/id464.html Evidence: The girl seen at 9.15pm wore distinctive pyjamas and the prime suspect also brought these to police to prove his innocence. <O></O>

Thank you Inana! The first sketch is the one
I recalled in which I thought the pjs looked like Maddies...very similar to.the ones being held up by the parents in the above referenced link you posted.

 

[~n/t~]

You can't compare whether you remember your child's pajamas on any random night six years ago to remembering a certain night when a child vanished in your neighborhood if there is a sketch published that you recognize yourself and your child's pajamas from.

JMO I think you would tend to remember that sort of thing.

It's a bit like 9/11 or Kennedy's murder or other shocking, extraordinary things like that. Almost everyone remembers where they were when they heard about those the first time but ask anyone where they were the day before, they've got no idea.

And he was on a holiday. If he's one of those people who take a million photos on holidays he could very possibly document everything his kids wore every day of the week

He might have come forward in 2007, or he might not. Not every witness does the right thing.

I don't know what would be the point of DNA testing the pajamas after six years. Whoever wore them that night, or even if no one did, there could be anyone's DNA on the pajamas from something that happened before or after that night. Apart from finding Madeleine's DNA on them which I don't think anyone's expecting, nothing that was found or wasn't found would mean much.

I'm confused (yes again:blushing. How do we know the pyjamas were only tested after 6 years? I think LE has them and were tested at the time when egg man came forward to say he was the guy Tanner saw

 

[CHERIE.T]

The pyjamas were her sister's

But, of course, the pyjamas she was holding so carefully in her lap were not Madeleine's, but those of Madeleine's younger sister, two-year-old Amelie.


Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...Canns-Crimewatch-TV-appeal.html#ixzz2jUHbY692
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They were like Maddies were they not?

 

[~n/t~]

That's why I quoted that bit...

Oops missed your quote. Sorry. I should stop speed reading lol