Madeleine McCann: German prisoner identified as suspect - #17

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  • #561
This is the most frustrating thing for me in the age of internet news - they can go back and edit their articles to reflect more up-to-date info and leave no trace of the original! Bring back retractions lol
I could not agree more lol
 
  • #562
HB is a human trafficker, it would not surprise me if he was involved in part of a plan to take MM? If they were really offended by CB I think they would have gone to the police earlier. They seem to be making money from crime and I think at some point the need for money surpasses their moral compass. They have no issue stabbing each other in the back because they only look out for themselves, they probably think they can get suspended sentences or use CB as the fall guy to get away with it.

So weird to be anti-asylum seeker & anti-Muslim yet traffic them into Europe for cash.
 
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So weird to be anti-asylum seeker & anti-Muslim yet traffic them into Europe for cash.

Seems weird on paper, Pixie, but remember that these unfortunate people usually have all their rights stripped by the traffickers on transit. They’re sold the dream of a “new life” and pay a pretty penny for it... But passports and documents are usually taken from them and they’re more often than not sold into the slave/sex trades. If you’re of the mindset that these people are “dirt”, then you wouldn’t care what becomes of them. They’re kept “underground”, have zero rights, zero traceability and usually no way of getting out of it because they’re undocumented.

ETA - I could actually see a racist/xenophobe getting a kick out of what becomes of these poor souls. Their problem is usually with “foreigners coming here and stealing our jobs/claiming benefits”. An undocumented slave can do neither of those things, they’re at the mercy of whoever “owns” them.
 
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I’m so sorry, I’m very new here and rarely comment but I’ve followed the case - please correct me if I’m wrong and forgive me if I’m out of line but hasn’t DS already been identified as a completely innocent 15 year old who is the current owner of the mobile number?

Hi DSheal. There’s no good source on that - I think it came from one of the pro-GA accounts on Twitter. Her name escapes me at the mo.
 
  • #566
Someone then connected DS to this page.

I don't know if this in newspaper article as that's behind a paywall but I think it wouldn't be too ethical to expose such personal data.

That DS worked for Oceanico Group in 2007, something already discussed here and unconnected to OC.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/diogo-silva-42766689/
 
  • #567
So weird to be anti-asylum seeker & anti-Muslim yet traffic them into Europe for cash.

Just so I haven't missed something crucial in this discussion, who's come out as anti-asylum seeker and anti-Muslim? Who is being referred to here?

Thanks in advance.
 
  • #568
I really hope this case to be fully cleared up and you'll see how bigmouth disastrous CB is small fish and I'm sure many people are shaking like a leaf right now.

I think so too. I still think CB is and always was a convenient means to an end, rather than the real end.
 
  • #569
Just so I haven't missed something crucial in this discussion, who's come out as anti-asylum seeker and anti-Muslim? Who is being referred to here?

Thanks in advance.

Helger B
 
  • #570
Someone then connected DS to this page.

I don't know if this in newspaper article as that's behind a paywall but I think it wouldn't be too ethical to expose such personal data.

That DS worked for Oceanico Group in 2007, something already discussed here and unconnected to OC.

https://www.linkedin.com/in/diogo-silva-42766689/
Ds was mentioned ages ago on here , and I think dismissed,I think something to do with silva being a common surname, and possibly parents worked for or at the OC???
 
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Ds was mentioned ages ago on here , and I think dismissed,I think something to do with silva being a common surname, and possibly parents worked for or at the OC???

Yes, discussed a lot, but not dismissed so far. First of all because no one knows newspaper's source, and less so who they're talking about.

Silva is the most common surname in Portugal, where 1 out of 10 people have Silva as a surname. So, working out such a surname will be a never ending story whatever way you follow.

Portuguese name - Wikipedia
 
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Christian Brueckner's ex-girlfriend claims he assaulted her daughter

Quotes from the mother of the 5 year old he was convicted of abusing.

“She fears Brueckner may have abused other youngsters in the area because a number of parents were in the habit of entrusting him with their children. 'I am sure he abused other children. Some parents used to leave their kids with him, especially those parents on welfare,' she said.”

Christ almighty.

Also, how does someone only get 15 months when they have previous for the same thing?? Especially when it comes to child abuse. Add to that the near 400 pics and the videos he had in his possession at the time?? He was an obvious danger, how was 15 months going to “rehabilitate” him??
There needs to be a serious feckin overhaul in the law when it comes to convictions for child abuse, that’s a fcukin joke.
 
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ETA

Der mehrfach vorbestrafte Helge B. berichtete Scotland Yard von einem jährlich stattfindenden Drachenfestival im Süden Spaniens, bei dem er im Frühjahr 2008 Christian B. getroffen habe.

To me this sounds like the Dragon Festival 2008 lost in translation and becoming a 'Kite' festival. There was also the Rocket Festival in May 2008, but that only happened 3 times, so not a yearly event.
Easy to lose that in translation, as the German word Drachen means both 'dragons' & 'kites', so a Drachenfestival (or Drachenfest) could be accurately translated as either a kite festival or a dragon festival.
 
  • #576
Easy to lose that in translation, as the German word Drachen means both 'dragons' & 'kites', so a Drachenfestival (or Drachenfest) could be accurately translated as either a kite festival or a dragon festival.

So according to HB we can place CB in the Orgiva area, probably at the Dragon Festival in March 2008.

Strange that CB didn't meet up with his former "best friend/jail buddy" MT while he was there.

It would be nice to know what vehicle CB was driving at the time.
 
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“She fears Brueckner may have abused other youngsters in the area because a number of parents were in the habit of entrusting him with their children. 'I am sure he abused other children. Some parents used to leave their kids with him, especially those parents on welfare,' she said.”

Christ almighty.

Also, how does someone only get 15 months when they have previous for the same thing?? Especially when it comes to child abuse. Add to that the near 400 pics and the videos he had in his possession at the time?? He was an obvious danger, how was 15 months going to “rehabilitate” him??
There needs to be a serious feckin overhaul in the law when it comes to convictions for child abuse, that’s a fcukin joke.

IIRC we discussed in a previous thread a MSM source indicating that CB had children helping/working in his kiosk. Wait, I found a reference below.

And the thing is that if parents see all the kids hanging out there, and they see he's in a relationship (and maybe even assume he's the father of his girlfriend's daughter), it's easy to get lulled into thinking the kids are safe there. Utter speculation but he also had the dogs, another magnet - alongside sweets/candy - for kids.

"Peter Erdmann, 64, said Christian Brueckner gave sweets and cuddly toys to children aged seven to 10 for two years

He said kids turned up at school with gifts they said Brueckner gave them – and another local claimed children went behind the counter and into the storeroom of his shop"

School caretaker saw Madeleine McCann suspect give kids 'sweets and toys'

There's always a shopfront of sorts for paedophiles to lure in children.
 
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But also, wasn't it made fairly clear that, regardless of an unlikely judgement to the contrary, CB would be staying put? That's my recollection anyway and this (from 6th August) seems to back that up -

European court of justice advises Madeleine McCann suspect was lawfully tried in rape case

But a preliminary opinion by the advocate general Michal Bobek said the consent of the Italian authorities was all that was necessary for the Germans to pursue the proceedings against Brückner for the rape in 2005 in Portugal...

...Bobek’s appraisal is not legally binding and the court has yet to make a ruling, but it is usual practice for ECJ judges to follow the opinion of its advocate generals.
 
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But also, wasn't it made fairly clear that, regardless of an unlikely judgement to the contrary, CB would be staying put? That's my recollection anyway and this (from 6th August) seems to back that up -

European court of justice advises Madeleine McCann suspect was lawfully tried in rape case

Thank you - per my notes:


German prosecutor Julia Meter told the PA news agency: “The advocate general shares our opinion. “We are pleased and wait for the decision of the court the next few weeks.”

few weeks - say 3 - from 8/6 - 3 weeks would be around 8/26 forward. Guess we wait.
 
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