Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #33

[Denis R Tandib]

Looking more and more like all he has is a confession in a bar. And I know what Arthur Conan Doyle would say about that.

It's a change from confession through a prison cell wall though

He did believe in fairies though!

 

[Deleted member 268165]

Hmmm, not sure where though, CB reckons he was with a girl, Wolters reckons CB has no alibi, thing is Wolters/BKS or whomever needs to prove CB was there .But there again where , Wolters has never said he believes the suspect took Madeleine out of 5a.

He was with ALE the night from May 9 to May 10.

 

[Lyall0814]

He did believe in fairies though!

He'd have loved Websleuths

 

[Davieson]

He was with ALE the night from May 9 to May 10.

Seems to me that until he is charged for something on a specific date, an alibi .
Even then its not a crime not to able to provide an alibi, particularly after many years. While he might know where he was, the person asked to corroborate might not remember.

 

[enquirer6]

Alleged abduction.

Why should anyone doubt the conclusions of: the PJ, Scotland Yard, the Portuguese Prosecutors, the BKA, the German prosecutors?

 

[Deleted member 268165]

Seems to me that until he is charged for something on a specific date, an alibi .
Even then its not a crime not to able to provide an alibi, particularly after many years. While he might know where he was, the person asked to corroborate might not remember.

I did not say it is an alibi. It is only a fact.

 

[Davieson]

Why should anyone doubt the conclusions of: the PJ, Scotland Yard, the Portuguese Prosecutors, the BKA, the German prosecutors?

Perhaps because its only a conclusion, not a fact supported by strong evidence

 

[RichardKimble]

Why should anyone doubt the conclusions of: the PJ, Scotland Yard, the Portuguese Prosecutors, the BKA, the German prosecutors?

They may of course be investigating such, maybe thats why its not solved yet.

 

[RichardKimble]

He was with ALE the night from May 9 to May 10.

Where was this Janosch ?

 

[Deleted member 268165]

Where was this Janosch ?

Faro airport.

 

[G-Unit]

Perhaps because its only a conclusion, not a fact supported by strong evidence

Also because the conclusion wasn't reached independently by any of the organisations involved. Beginning with Operation Grange their remit was to investigate an abduction, not the disappearance of Madeleine McCann.

The Germans became involved when OG told them what the people trafficker said. The Portuguese became involved when they made the suspect an arguido; but was that a procedural move to stop the timing out of the crime?

Then there's the insistence of murder by the Germans, not necessarily with OG's agreement. The Portuguese are saying nothing either. It's by no means a cohesive united story in my opinion.

 

[Lyall0814]

Why should anyone doubt the conclusions of: the PJ, Scotland Yard, the Portuguese Prosecutors, the BKA, the German prosecutors?

None of them have yet concluded anything officially that differs from what the Portuguese judiciary said when the case was shelved: no evidence exists to be able to determine the nature of any crime.

HCW's waffling is just waffling until he takes it to a court.

 

[RichardKimble]

Faro airport.

Thank you, so he's pulled off the crime that became world famous and still hung around a while ?

 

[RichardKimble]

Just saw this line quoted on another thread on WS, pertinent here imo.

"A hundred suspicions don’t make a proof. - Fyodor Dostoevsky, Crime and Punishment".

 

[Deleted member 268165]

Thank you, so he's pulled off the crime that became world famous and still hung around a while ?

The firend of CB, the German girl ALE was arrested for carrying a Pepper Gas Spray (considered to be a weapon in Portugal). CB served as translator in the procedure.

 

[Davieson]

Faro airport.

So he couldn't have left for Germany until after this date.

 

[enquirer6]

None of them have yet concluded anything officially that differs from what the Portuguese judiciary said when the case was shelved: no evidence exists to be able to determine the nature of any crime.

HCW's waffling is just waffling until he takes it to a court.

The Portuguese prosecutors were clear that Madeleine was abducted from her bed in a criminal act by a stranger.

Joao Carlos is clear, in his final report for the PJ, that, at the time of the Smith sighting, and also the time of Kate's alert, Gerry was in the Tapas Restaurant.

Martin Smith proved by agreeing (after initially refusing) to produce an efit that he had changed his mind about the identity of the man he and his family saw. He wouldn't have bothered with an efit of Gerry. He'd have just supplied a photograph ....

Meanwhile, Herr Wolters believes he has identified the man who took Madeleine.

The truly depressing thing is the different reasons different people have for wanting him to be wrong.

 

[Dave55]

None of them have yet concluded anything officially that differs from what the Portuguese judiciary said when the case was shelved: no evidence exists to be able to determine the nature of any crime.

HCW's waffling is just waffling until he takes it to a court.

HCW has made official statements. Everything depends on what his evidence is,.....he claims it's far from waffle

 

[Deleted member 268165]

So he couldn't have left for Germany until after this date.

Going to Germany and coming back to Portugal from May 4 to May 8 is possible, even by car. But I think he was in Portugal from May 3 to May 10 ... That is why, if he did it, I think Madeleine's corpse was left in Portugal.

 

[Lyall0814]

HCW has made official statements. Everything depends on what his evidence is,.....he claims it's far from waffle

Press conferences aren't official statements. He's yet to take any evidence to a court.