Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #38

[Okapi]

HaB’s German lawyer seemed more exasperated with FF than the prosecutors imo.

“I now understand from my solicitor in Germany this is just a way for Brueckner’s team to slow down proceedings and it is merely a technicality.”

Gibraltar - Olive Press News Spain

www.theolivepress.es

Tbh is it any wonder there is a jurisdictional dispute when CB was shifty in the literal sense about his addresses. Rhetorical question.

 

[Lyall0814]

My opinion is that this is not a matter of personalities - it is a matter of law. Some may see it as a squabble and some may see it as an interruption to due process.

I know of at least one dismayed woman whose long awaited rape trial has been postponed by this legal argument and I find that hard enough. The thought that as you say it could be personal is just abhorrent.
My opinion.

It is a matter of law, as mrjitty explains. So why aren't you critical of the prosecutors who may have made a mistake? (and perhaps not just one mistake, as Richard points out)

 

[Mex]

If the prosecutors have got the residency wrong, which one would think to be a simple matter , what else have they?

I think residency is possibly determined by who the resident is and whether or not he is living in one of his camper vans or living in residential property or various properties owned by him.
I doubt even CB's capability of working it out and the courts seem to be having extreme difficulty with it too.

 

[Lilly b]

HaB’s German lawyer seemed more exasperated with FF than the prosecutors imo.

“I now understand from my solicitor in Germany this is just a way for Brueckner’s team to slow down proceedings and it is merely a technicality.”

Gibraltar - Olive Press News Spain

www.theolivepress.es

Tbh is it any wonder there is a jurisdictional dispute when CB was shifty in the literal sense about his addresses. Rhetorical question.

You would think if cb was innocent, he'd want things to get to court quickly, so to prove his innocence, and then he could get parole sooner for the crime he is in prison for now. But ff and cb don't seem to want that, I wonder why ???

 

[misty48]

It is a matter of law, as mrjitty explains. So why aren't you critical of the prosecutors who may have made a mistake? (and perhaps not just one mistake, as Richard points out)

I wonder what address was provided by CB to the authorities when he was inadvertently released from prison in August 2018, before he went on the run?

 

[Hygge]

We may not like the delay and even if FF is using it for gaining time, if CBs last residence was in Neuwegersleben, Braunschweig is not responsible and we have to accept that. if FF is right CB maybe was prosecuted on a wrong court in the DM case.

 

[RichardKimble]

I think residency is possibly determined by who the resident is and whether or not he is living in one of his camper vans or living in residential property or various properties owned by him.
I doubt even CB's capability of working it out and the courts seem to be having extreme difficulty with it too.

I don't think the court have a problem, FF said he brought it up last year, the prosecutors it seems are the ones who don't understand.

 

[RichardKimble]

We may not like the delay and even if FF is using it for gaining time, if CBs last residence was in Neuwegersleben, Braunschweig is not responsible and we have to accept that. if FF is right CB maybe was prosecuted on a wrong court in the DM case.

Agreed ,there is more at play here imo.

 

[misty48]

We may not like the delay and even if FF is using it for gaining time, if CBs last residence was in Neuwegersleben, Braunschweig is not responsible and we have to accept that. if FF is right CB maybe was prosecuted on a wrong court in the DM case.

Are the authorities in Germany obliged to keep track of CSA offenders after they are released from prison?

 

[Hygge]

Are the authorities in Germany obliged to keep track of CSA offenders after they are released from prison?

I think it depends. If he is a danger or not, I heard from sexual predators that they were observed

 

[RichardKimble]

Are the authorities in Germany obliged to keep track of CSA offenders after they are released from prison?

You would think there would be a sex offenders register.

 

[RichardKimble]

HaB’s German lawyer seemed more exasperated with FF than the prosecutors imo.

“I now understand from my solicitor in Germany this is just a way for Brueckner’s team to slow down proceedings and it is merely a technicality.”

Gibraltar - Olive Press News Spain

www.theolivepress.es

Tbh is it any wonder there is a jurisdictional dispute when CB was shifty in the literal sense about his addresses. Rhetorical question.

That's from a reporter who said the police were looking for three bodies at the reservoir search.

 

[RichardKimble]

I think residency is possibly determined by who the resident is and whether or not he is living in one of his camper vans or living in residential property or various properties owned by him.
I doubt even CB's capability of working it out and the courts seem to be having extreme difficulty with it too.

CB doesn't need to work it out, thats the reason for a legal team.

 

[Okapi]

off topic but I find it hard to give credence to the notion that the box factory site was habitable. No amenities. The pictures in this link - ugggh. Prison would be like the Ritz after living here. Just my opinion.

Was a monster hiding in plain sight at a vacation resort?

 

[Okapi]

That's from a reporter who said the police were looking for three bodies at the reservoir search.

Perhaps referring to water bodies ;-)

It doesn’t negate the statements from HaB.

 

[RichardKimble]

off topic but I find it hard to give credence to the notion that the box factory site was habitable. No amenities. The pictures in this link - ugggh. Prison would be like the Ritz after living here. Just my opinion.

Was a monster hiding in plain sight at a vacation resort?

Quite, so how have CBs legal team determined and convinced the court that this is his place of residency, how have not HCWs team convinced the court in their favour?

 

[Hygge]

off topic but I find it hard to give credence to the notion that the box factory site was habitable. No amenities. The pictures in this link - ugggh. Prison would be like the Ritz after living here. Just my opinion.

Was a monster hiding in plain sight at a vacation resort?

It’s a creepy place, I was there a while ago but didn’t go out of the car. i think he was more living in his Winnebago there than in the houses which mostly haven’t roofs. But a good place to hide.

 

[Okapi]

Quite, so how have CBs legal team determined and convinced the court that this is his place of residency, how have not HCWs team convinced the court in their favour?

I don’t think that’s on the public record. We may discover more if it is appealed. Either way it’s a scenic detour but it will still arrive in court eventually.

 

[Mex]

You would think if cb was innocent, he'd want things to get to court quickly, so to prove his innocence, and then he could get parole sooner for the crime he is in prison for now. But ff and cb don't seem to want that, I wonder why ???

It isn't a normal situation.
CB has been imprisoned for proven sexual crimes against a woman and in an unrelated case, a child.
The jurisdiction argument has delayed trials on five separate and unrelated indictments featuring sexual crimes against women and children

The five criminal offences with which CB has been charged are being side-lined a bit as the initial suspicions that CB had something to do with MM's disappearance have matured into making him a suspect in child murder.

Interesting for viewers from the side-lines who really know little about the intricacies familiar to investigators - but absolute hell for those seeking already long delayed justice.

 

[RichardKimble]

I don’t think that’s on the public record. We may discover more if it is appealed. Either way it’s a scenic detour but it will still arrive in court eventually.

Kindly posted by niner, opening pages of thread 36.

The court, in the state of Lower Saxony, confirmed the decision, saying the fact that Brueckner had registered a place of residence in the state of Saxony-Anhalt meant it fell outside Braunschweig's jurisdiction.