Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #41

I asked for logical reasons though. Funnily enough I got the answer I expected too, that the hair was 'planted' :rolleyes:
Shouldn't we stop beating around the Bosch (tumble dryer) now? ;)
IMO this is just to spice things up and keep defocus. This case is more than closed and proven with DNA! Accept and accept.

Let's now hope BKA can get something relevant from these searches, hope (in that sense) they have a photo and still add weight to what they already have to charge him. Difficult but maybe not impossible.
 

EXCLUSIVE: ‘I’m certain they’ve found key evidence in Maddie search’ says former detective who worked alongside McCann family in 2007 Portugal search.....​


Completely forgot about Clement Freud
 
These are not logical options imo. The launderette use is as absurd as the easy transfer of DNA via a cat. If these were logical options, they should have found the DNA of more than one person. So it happens that the forensic evidence they found belongs to a sex predator who had filmed similar rapes in the past, witnessed by 2 people and who as we now know was "fantasising " about heinous crimes against children and women of all ages. It is beyond me how we can still be discussing this. From what I have read CB is vile, evil, and a despicable person who is absolutely capable of committing the most heinous crimes. I don't understand how other people cannot see that and are still doubting his psychopathic traits. Jmo
I don’t know what kind of launderette you are used to but most are not in the habit of leaving many hairs in linen. If DM’s linen were contaminated, it would have only been by one (pubic) hair.

It was the conviction for DM’s rape that made him the vile, despicable, heinous… sex predator you suggest.

Let’s not forget the the so-called video evidence and the witnesses who gave were tested again last year. They were flatly dismissed as not credible.

I don’t doubt that CB fantasies about many things but thought crimes are not punishable otherwise most people would be serial offenders!

Going back to original point so it’s not forgotten: without the hair, CB’s record is of a very different criminal, that’s a fact.
 
One would have to ask why was CB’s hair planted in the victim’s bed years before anyone put him in the frame for the rape.
That’s not what was suggested. Where was the DNA extracted? Was it is 2005 in Portugal or after 2017 in Germany.
 
CB's " relationship" with the 17 year old vacationer is both convenient and predatory IMO.

It is my belief that he used this girl because using people is what he does and to build out a cover. Man traveling alone might draw attention. Man traveling with an underage "girlfriend", sketchy. Man traveling with his "daughter" (or "niece"), carry on.

Atrocious story, probably its own thread here, lithe boy kills his neighbor girl playmate, hides her body under his bed. Carries on.

I think that CB's gall is exactly the trait that accounts for MM's disappearance. I think he could easily steal a child and walk away with her like she's his daughter and they're walking in the park on a sunny Sunday afternoon.

I think CB could easily hide a child for days, without anyone near him knowing, people who would feel strongly that he couldn't have done any such thing because easily (they think) they would have known.

I think CB gets off on that kind of trickery.

Near to me, a thirteen year old was abducted from her own home, both parents murdered, no trace of the suspect and LE was on site within 4 minutes. He held her captive, often wedged in under his bed, hosted his family at times, for 80 days. Sat visiting with his dad with a 13 year old upstairs under his bed. That is nerve. (She eventual rescued herself.)

Abductions can happen fast and without leaving evidence. Brazen captors aren't afraid to conceal living victims right under unsuspecting noses. It's part of the thrill IMO.

I will not be surprised if we learn that CB had MM in his van at the same time as a passenger, unaware. Afraid to be found out? No. I don't think he feels fear. Exhilaration. I think it's his kink. A thrill.

I think sweet MM had just the kind of nature that someone with CB's nature wouldn't think twice about exploit. Access to ether however better explains how he could keep a child quiet long enough.

IMO this is how he got her to his campsite, the one LE searched apparently in vain. If CB is going to bury a victim, he going to bury her under a dead animal. But why go to the trouble when he could weigh her down in water or toss her into a dumpster somewhere?

Often, children who are kidnapped are killed, within 24/48 hours, if not in the first.

CB seemed to have other designs. Deeply sadistic. How many days would he keep a little? As long as he wanted, if he didn't kill her first, subjecting her to worse things than I care to imagine.

I don't think CB would so much as flinch driving with a MM, dead or alive, through a police check point or border patrol.

It's a game to him.

JMO
 
Perhaps those who consider it possible that CB’s hair made its way inocently into the victim’s bed might like also like to consider the incredible coincidence that his DNA was present there and confirmed the validity of HB’s claim that CB had committed a similar crime as witnessed on the video found amongst his possessions. I mean, what are the odds?
He was found not guilty for the rape of HaB. If continuing to discuss the validity of the decision in the DM case is nonsensical, why isn’t the same respect shown to the decision in the HaB case?
 
All things are possible.
The question is did it happen that way ? What evidence is there to support that, or any other scenario?
 
“He was found not guilty for the rape of HaB. If continuing to discuss the validity of the decision in the DM case is nonsensical, why isn’t the same respect shown to the decision in the HaB case?”

I don’t thinking my post was showing a lack of respect, merely asking the question- what would be the odds of a dna match to a witness claim that had arrived by innocent transferral eg cat or laundrette.
 
Overturned, yes and again, obviously.
Beyond the surreal that has already been written here with such complex narratives to try to confuse MM case, IMO this beats everything! Cat story was not enough...
Yes -Illogical but the logic isn’t the driver.

‘Brent Stellander was right’ theme was gearing up, but it didn’t click that forensics isn’t a fast food queue.

IMO we’ll never hear that argument because nothing will be found. It always evolves
 
If we’re going down the planted evidence route we may as well dismiss every case that’s ever been brought to justice through recovered dna evidence. Again one would have to ask the question why it was important that CB be framed by German police for a crime committed in Portugal against an American citizen. Is there some personal grudge match going on here?
 
If we’re going down the planted evidence route we may as well dismiss every case that’s ever been brought to justice through recovered dna evidence. Again one would have to ask the question why it was important that CB be framed by German police for a crime committed in Portugal against an American citizen. Is there some personal grudge match going on here?
The behaviour would be different if CB wasn’t the sole prime suspect in the MM case.

IMO the noise ref poor Diane’s rape stems from what CB said in a recent interview with a journalist. Reactivated a few neurons.

Spoiler alert : the rapist said he didn’t do it…..
 
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By the way I consider the crimes he committed against children alone vile, despicable, heinous and predatory, never mind the actual rape. Consider the long lasting psychological and emotional impact such crimes can have on the victims.
 
“He was found not guilty for the rape of HaB. If continuing to discuss the validity of the decision in the DM case is nonsensical, why isn’t the same respect shown to the decision in the HaB case?”

I don’t thinking my post was showing a lack of respect, merely asking the question- what would be the odds of a dna match to a witness claim that had arrived by innocent transferral eg cat or laundrette.
I think I understand you now. Please use HeB for the male former associate of CB and HaB for the rape victim - just do we understand who you mean.
 
By the way I consider the crimes he committed against children alone vile, despicable, heinous and predatory, never mind the actual rape. Consider the long lasting psychological and emotional impact such crimes can have on the victims.
Yes, as, if, in case the twilight cat hair story had won DM case (just in Mars, maybe), the other crimes of CB against children, could be considered minor or devalued. In a while and he would be a saint...
 
By the way I consider the crimes he committed against children alone vile, despicable, heinous and predatory, never mind the actual rape. Consider the long lasting psychological and emotional impact such crimes can have on the victims.
That’s your choice. I don’t think anyone is arguing otherwise. However, relatively, they are less severe than rape at knife point. This is reflected in the sentences he received for each offence.
 
Yes, as, if, in case the twilight cat hair story had won DM case (just in Mars, maybe), the other crimes of CB against children, could be considered minor or devalued. In a while and he would be a saint...
What were the crimes? Please explain what these SA offences were.

The first offence received no custodial sentence and the second two - he served approximately a year or less.

It’s a fact that on the spectrum of sex offences, these are at the minor end.
 
That’s your choice. I don’t think anyone is arguing otherwise. However, relatively, they are less severe than rape at knife point. This is reflected in the sentences he received for each offence.
We should not be comparing crimes based on the sentences received! The trauma that sexual abuse of children leaves is not reflected in any sentencing. And if you seriously think that having paedophilic tendencies and fantasies is okay and minor, I rest my case. It is not only my opinion that CB is vile, evil, and a dangerous psychopath. It was a court psychiatrist who said that and I doubt he based that only on the DM rape. It is his whole personality reflected in his emails, chat exchanges, photos he had in his possession, etc.
 
Just because he was aquitted does not mean he's innocent. It just means the prosecution couldn't reach BARD, understandable considering what evidence they couldn't use.

LE didn't prolly cross CB off their suspect list and open a new investigation. He remains the #1 suspect.

For discussion purposes, I'm not bound by BARD.

IMO he wouldn't fare so well in civil court.

JMO
 

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