Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #41

[Denis R Tandib]

I was thinking more of the recipient using a proxy rather than CB.
Do we know when these emails date from ?

Added - Wiki says commonly in use by 2008

I just had a quick look and proxy servers are as old as the internet. I do wonder if in 2007, the same person with a Hotmail account would also be using a proxy server but it was almost certainly possible.

The deleted emails were from 2007, around the time MM disappeared.

ETA, all the content of the emails would be stored on Microsoft’s servers so even if the IP address wasn’t available, it’s possible that things like the language used - slang - may be able to geographically locate the sender - like someone from the south of England using “Pukka” to mean good or Germans saying things like “I have known her since five years.” I am pretty sure they could locate someone’s area of origin by the way they write emails… if there is enough of them.

 

[Davieson]

How long are emails stored on servers ? A google search gives all sorts of answers from a few days to for ever.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

How long are emails stored on servers ? A google search gives all sorts of answers from a few days to for ever.

I think a long time… particularly a platform like Hotmail where you may want to refer back to them years later. I would take the BKA on face value when they say they have the emails, even the ones he deleted - I’m sure that’s possible.

ETA: and it’s likely they think the person he was messaging has more info. I wonder if they know who it is but at this stage they haven’t agreed to talk.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

No source but it’s quite a find if related to CB.

EXCLUSIVE: Guns found during Madeleine McCann search in Praia da Luz in Portugal - Olive Press News Spain

By Jon Clarke in Praia da Luz DETECTIVES searching for remains of missing Madeleine McCann found two buried guns in Portugal last week. The Olive Press

www.theolivepress.es

 

[frank-cole]

The release to the Sun was about publicity. On reflection, I may have gone too far with the precision of who the target was but I still think that conceptually its right.

They feel as though someone in the UK has answers. This is speculation but it’s possible they know that CB was emailing someone in the UK… I’m not an IT expert but perhaps they have traced the IP address to the UK. It’s 18 years so the PC it related to is long gone but it’s possible they know the location and can derive some understanding of whom they are looking for due to the nature of the emails.

Again, deep conjecture but stolen to order to a childless woman… the Barcelona incident and Ken Ralph are perhaps worth more consideration.

I agree I think there will be links with other paedophiles in other countries. I wouldn’t be surprised if there’s somebody out there who knows exactly what happened that night.

 

[thinker47]

I'm just cogitating now... There's just so MUCH circumstantial evidence that it seems impossible that CB might not be guilty. OTOH, there's not a shred of proof, after all these years, and you have to wonder if the certainty that he's guilty has taken eyes off all other possibilities. And how does *anyone* collate all this information - and between three different factions, different linguistically and culturally - without missing something? Or conversely, how does any perpetrator create this amount of evidence without once slipping up definitively? Just my totally uneducated opinion but I think he did it and I don't think this case will ever be solved. And even if he didn't, I don't think anything worthwhile is going to crop up now to persuade anyone of a different story. I think everyone - including us, not that we matter - is going round in circles and will ever be. And we all know that a circle simply has no end.

JMO obviously

 

[Denis R Tandib]

I'm just cogitating now... There's just so MUCH circumstantial evidence that it seems impossible that CB might not be guilty. OTOH, there's not a shred of proof, after all these years, and you have to wonder if the certainty that he's guilty has taken eyes off all other possibilities. And how does *anyone* collate all this information - and between three different factions, different linguistically and culturally - without missing something? Or conversely, how does any perpetrator create this amount of evidence without once slipping up definitively? Just my totally uneducated opinion but I think he did it and I don't think this case will ever be solved. And even if he didn't, I don't think anything worthwhile is going to crop up now to persuade anyone of a different story. I think everyone - including us, not that we matter - is going round in circles and will ever be. And we all know that a circle simply has no end.

JMO obviously

There is a lot of circumstantial evidence that he is a twisted pervert and paedophile. We run into trouble if we think this means he abducted and murdered MM.

It needs to be circumstantial evidence that connects this particular pardo to MM. Here, there isn’t much.

 

[Davieson]

I'm just cogitating now... There's just so MUCH circumstantial evidence that it seems impossible that CB might not be guilty. OTOH, there's not a shred of proof, after all these years, and you have to wonder if the certainty that he's guilty has taken eyes off all other possibilities. And how does *anyone* collate all this information - and between three different factions, different linguistically and culturally - without missing something? Or conversely, how does any perpetrator create this amount of evidence without once slipping up definitively? Just my totally uneducated opinion but I think he did it and I don't think this case will ever be solved. And even if he didn't, I don't think anything worthwhile is going to crop up now to persuade anyone of a different story. I think everyone - including us, not that we matter - is going round in circles and will ever be. And we all know that a circle simply has no end.

JMO obviously

I think its certainly true that the Germans are only interested in it being CB.
They can only prosecute a German citizen, so anything else that would suggest a non-German as culprit would be of no interest to them and would be outside their jurisdiction.

 

[Denis R Tandib]

A very different interpretation to the one presented by The Olive Press. I think this one has more journalistic integrity.

Portuguese investigators issue verdict on new finds in Madeleine McCann search

Portuguese investigators have issued a new update on the finds unearthed in last week's Madeleine McCann searches following reports that bones, animal clothing and guns had been sent to Germany

www.mirror.co.uk

 

[C.greek]

A very different interpretation to the one presented by The Olive Press. I think this one has more journalistic integrity.

Portuguese investigators issue verdict on new finds in Madeleine McCann search

Portuguese investigators have issued a new update on the finds unearthed in last week's Madeleine McCann searches following reports that bones, animal clothing and guns had been sent to Germany

www.mirror.co.uk

Agreed, but as we saw, the guns from the box factory could also be considered ancient!

 

[FromGermany1]

Madeleine McCann police make wild discovery buried in ground in latest search

Bombshell new reports claim police working on the Madeleine McCann case found two guns buried underground during the recent round of searches in Portugal

www.irishmirror.ie

 

[C.greek]

Don't see why you should think it a trick. Its just a defence argument that was accepted as valid.

Valid defence trick - is that better ?

 

[Davieson]

Valid defence trick - is that better ?

If you like, I'd just settle for vald defence.

 

[UK Girl]

Trousers, a couple of shooters & Mrs Muller?

jmo

Not sure what Mrs Muller is meant to be but apparently a lot have lived in those ruins so could be anyone's

 

[C.greek]

Major update issued on guns found at Madeleine McCann search site

A major update has emerged regarding the guns found during the Madeleine McCann search last week - it comes after two guns as well as animal bones and clothing were discovered

www.mirror.co.uk

Major update on guns found at Portuguese search site​

One of the objects described as a gun was found at the bottom of a well emptied by firefighters last week.

Portuguese daily Correio da Manha reported today it appeared to be “more recent” than the other firearm which is believed to be more than 50 years old and has been ruled out as a possible piece of evidence in the Madeleine McCann case.

 

[C.greek]

Not sure what Mrs Muller is meant to be but apparently a lot have lived in those ruins so could be anyone's

I haven't seen any report that says that lots lived there. Perhaps spent some hours - took drugs or whatever, but living there?

 

[Davieson]

Could this be one of Cowley's ? lawless villages ?

 

[frank-cole]

Major update issued on guns found at Madeleine McCann search site

A major update has emerged regarding the guns found during the Madeleine McCann search last week - it comes after two guns as well as animal bones and clothing were discovered

www.mirror.co.uk

Major update on guns found at Portuguese search site​

One of the objects described as a gun was found at the bottom of a well emptied by firefighters last week.

Portuguese daily Correio da Manha reported today it appeared to be “more recent” than the other firearm which is believed to be more than 50 years old and has been ruled out as a possible piece of evidence in the Madeleine McCann case.

Major update issued on guns found at Madeleine McCann search site

A major update has emerged regarding the guns found during the Madeleine McCann search last week - it comes after two guns as well as animal bones and clothing were discovered

www.mirror.co.uk

Major update on guns found at Portuguese search site​

One of the objects described as a gun was found at the bottom of a well emptied by firefighters last week.

Portuguese daily Correio da Manha reported today it appeared to be “more recent” than the other firearm which is believed to be more than 50 years old and has been ruled out as a possible piece of evidence in the Madeleine McCann case.

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Major update issued on guns found at Madeleine McCann search site

A major update has emerged regarding the guns found during the Madeleine McCann search last week - it comes after two guns as well as animal bones and clothing were discovered

www.mirror.co.uk

Major update on guns found at Portuguese search site​

One of the objects described as a gun was found at the bottom of a well emptied by firefighters last week.

Portuguese daily Correio da Manha reported today it appeared to be “more recent” than the other firearm which is believed to be more than 50 years old and has been ruled out as a possible piece of evidence in the Madeleine McCann case.

I am really dubious about the credibility of these tabloid reports. A couple of the revolvers from the box factory are over 60 years old. Having a 60 year old shooter & a newer shooter doesn’t make a lot of difference. Older guns circulate more than newer ones

It’s not as if they would have pulled up a Musket.

 

[johnlair]

The release to the Sun was about publicity. On reflection, I may have gone too far with the precision of who the target was but I still think that conceptually its right.

They feel as though someone in the UK has answers. This is speculation but it’s possible they know that CB was emailing someone in the UK… I’m not an IT expert but perhaps they have traced the IP address to the UK. It’s 18 years so the PC it related to is long gone but it’s possible they know the location and can derive some understanding of whom they are looking for due to the nature of the emails.

Again, deep conjecture but stolen to order to a childless woman… the Barcelona incident and Ken Ralph are perhaps worth more consideration.

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I am really dubious about the credibility of these tabloid reports. A couple of the revolvers from the box factory are over 60 years old. Having a 60 year old shooter & a newer shooter doesn’t make a lot of difference. Older guns circulate more than newer ones

It’s not as if they would have pulled up a Musket.

Totally agree

 

[FromGermany1]

All the clues that finally nailed paedo sex pest as prime Maddie McCann suspect

Christian Brueckner has been the prime suspect in the disappearance of Madeleine McCann since 2020, and investigators are in a 'race against time' to charge the convicted sex offender

www.mirror.co.uk

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