Madeleine McCann: German Prisoner Identified as Suspect, #42

[Davieson]

I understand why some will be hesitant to comment about possible evidence against CB that may go public in the future.

Then you'll know that its a pretty pointless exercise.

 

[frank-cole]

Knowing who killed someone and being able to prove it are often two distinct things. Some criminals are good, some are lucky. It must be painfully frustrating to have unusable evidence and watch a prime suspect walk free.

If there's no legal reason to hold CB, he gets to walk free. But surviving victims must be terrified. I won't be surprised if he disappears into the night.

It's where he reappears that should terrify everyone.

JMO

If this goes on - in the Mid-to-long term, the prosecution getting this done is not going to be much of a challenge & it appears they’re already tuned in to it.

Psychiatric professionals & police investigators both say with a very high degree of certainty that he’ll reoffend & commit more sex crimes. Nobody wants that crime to happen, but it’s inevitable, just as all the other crimes were. There is now a target on a woman’s or child’s back, they just don’t know it yet.
The next sex assault he commits will put him in preventive detention. Then a MM confession is inevitable.

My opinion

 

[RichardKimble]

If this goes on - in the Mid-to-long term, the prosecution getting this done is not going to be much of a challenge & it appears they’re already tuned in to it.

Psychiatric professionals & police investigators both say with a very high degree of certainty that he’ll reoffend & commit more sex crimes. Nobody wants that crime to happen, but it’s inevitable, just as all the other crimes were. There is now a target on a woman’s or child’s back, they just don’t know it yet.
The next sex assault he commits will put him in preventive detention. Then a MM confession is inevitable.

My opinion

There's nothing to confess in regards to MM.

 

[RichardKimble]

The alleged picture rumour started in 2020.HCW is not allowed to comment, 5 yrs later no charges, the burden of proof lies with those who make a claim.


Speaking on Aussie TV, he said: "At the moment, I am not allowed to contend on that, so I am not able to say if there are pictures or there are no pictures of Madeleine."

Maddie cops 'have evidence she died' as they trawl suspect's buried vids & pics

MADELEINE McCann detectives insisted they have “strong evidence” she is dead after uncovering a trove of pictures and videos allegedly buried by suspect Christian B. German prosecutor H…

www.thesun.co.uk

 

[frank-cole]

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The alleged picture rumour started in 2020.HCW is not allowed to comment, 5 yrs later no charges, the burden of proof lies with those who make a claim.


Speaking on Aussie TV, he said: "At the moment, I am not allowed to contend on that, so I am not able to say if there are pictures or there are no pictures of Madeleine."

Maddie cops 'have evidence she died' as they trawl suspect's buried vids & pics

MADELEINE McCann detectives insisted they have “strong evidence” she is dead after uncovering a trove of pictures and videos allegedly buried by suspect Christian B. German prosecutor H…

www.thesun.co.uk

Therefore if it turns out they have evidence of murder they’d then have been right, wouldn’t they?

 

[Hexe]

Therefore if it turns out they have evidence of murder they’d then have been right, wouldn’t they?

And if it turns out they do not have evidence of murder they'd then have been wrong. Considering that no evidence was shown to public during these five years and the prosecution does not plan to get CB to the trial for Maddie in predictable future I doubt any actual evidence exists.

 

[RichardKimble]

T

Therefore if it turns out they have evidence of murder they’d then have been right, wouldn’t they?

HCW on the behalf of the BKA said they had concrete evidence of MMs death, also stated they were sure their suspect did it, burden of proof is expected therefore from them.

 

[RichardKimble]

Any one have access to this tonight.

Kabel Eins bringt "Deutschlands spektakulärste Kriminalfälle" zurück

Verschwinden von Maddie McCann steht unter anderem im Zentrum von Staffel 2

www.wunschliste.de

Last fall, Kabel Eins sent the new true crime series "Germany's most spectacular criminal cases" on air, which proved to be a solid success with market shares of up to 5.4 percent in the 14 to 49-year-old demographic. There is now a start date for the second season: from September 5th, new two-hour episodes can be seen every Friday at 20.15 a.m.


Once again, attention is being paid to sensational criminal cases that have shaken Germany. Among other things, the fate of Madeleine McCann will be discussed this time: The then three-year-old girl disappeared under mysterious circumstances from a holiday apartment in Praia da Luz in Portugal on the evening of May 3, 2007 - she has not been found to date. In addition, the new episodes focus on a vengeful family man, investigative mishaps, mysterious confessions and a global criminal hunt.

 

[frank-cole]

HCW on the behalf of the BKA said they had concrete evidence of MMs death, also stated they were sure their suspect did it, burden of proof is expected therefore from them.

Exactly! If digital evidence of murder exists I am sure that eventually we’ll find out.

It sometimes reads like there’s something personal with HCW, as if he’s a saboteur out sabotaging somebody’s something.

I think he’s the spokesperson for a very large team & it would be the most devious, cruel & bizarre circumstance if what they have isn’t what they say they have - evidence of a murdered child. That would probably go down in history as one of the biggest lies ever told by an investigative unit. Unfathomable.

 

[Hexe]

I think he’s the spokesperson for a very large team & it would be the most devious, cruel & bizarre circumstance if what they have isn’t what they say they have - evidence of a murdered child

For a prosecutor, especially German, to state publicly things like HCW stated, when the suspect wasn't even arrested, is already unfathomable and bizarre, no matter if the suspect is actually guilty or not.

 

[RichardKimble]

Rehash of the beeb article, one thing though.



Prosecutors in Braunschweig, where Brueckner was tried on the 2022 charges, have applied for a retrial in a different court. However, a decision is not expected before next year.

Maddie suspect Christian Brueckner 'dangerous' ahead of release

Prosecutors believe Christian Brueckner , 48, killed the three-year-old girl in a Portuguese resort in a missing persons case that has captivated the world and remains unsolved.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Also he's not been questioned, how does HCW know there is no alibi?


That means we have not found any exonerating evidence, no alibi, no indications that he could not have been at this location.

 

[Megnut]

Rehash of the beeb article, one thing though.



Prosecutors in Braunschweig, where Brueckner was tried on the 2022 charges, have applied for a retrial in a different court. However, a decision is not expected before next year.

Maddie suspect Christian Brueckner 'dangerous' ahead of release

Prosecutors believe Christian Brueckner , 48, killed the three-year-old girl in a Portuguese resort in a missing persons case that has captivated the world and remains unsolved.

www.dailymail.co.uk

Also he's not been questioned, how does HCW know there is no alibi?


That means we have not found any exonerating evidence, no alibi, no indications that he could not have been at this location.

Hazarding a guess -- the girl he was with could no longer corroborate his whereabouts for the hours in question. Not insignificant.

JMO

 

[Hygge]

Maybe he knows he has no alibi because he knows the evidence?

 

[RichardKimble]

Hazarding a guess -- the girl he was with could no longer corroborate his whereabouts for the hours in question. Not insignificant.

JMO

How does she get investigated if CB is not questioned and used her for an alibi?

 

[RichardKimble]

Maybe he knows he has no alibi because he knows the evidence?

Evidence of what exactly? three peop!e out and about carrying children, one child closely resembled MM this became the focus of OG, the carrier did not match a description of CB.What are the odds of a fourth not being seen?

 

[Hexe]

Also he's not been questioned, how does HCW know there is no alibi?


That means we have not found any exonerating evidence, no alibi, no indications that he could not have been at this location.

I mean... It's shocking to hear that from the mouth of the prosecutor, because it is not how things should work in criminal investigation. Their, the prosecution's job is to find the evidence of guilt. In this case, if we are to believe HCW, that would be further evidence, because they already found the initial one, according to HCW. As a seasoned prosecutor HCW surely knows that providing verifiable alibi after over a decade is borderline impossible, he also knows that lack of evidence of innocence does not equal guilt. In this light this statement smacks, IMO, with dishonesty and manipulation.

 

[Hygge]

Evidence of what exactly? three peop!e out and about carrying children, one child closely resembled MM this became the focus of OG, the carrier did not match a description of CB.What are the odds of a fourth not being seen?

You are talking about evidence we armchair detectives think it’s all. We do not know what they have but maybe some day we will know I hope.
But when you ask why a prosecutor is sure he has no alibi, evidence would be my first answer.

 

[Hexe]

But when you ask why a prosecutor is sure he has no alibi, evidence would be my first answer.

Do you remember what were you doing on a certain day over a decade ago? Not being able to provide alibi after such a long time does not mean much.

 

[Megnut]

Just like in the recent cases where CB was found not guilty, that's a far cry from finding him innocent. It's just wildly unfortunate, that the Prosecution couldn't reach BARD, not exactly surprising since their best evidence was inadmissable.

In this case, I think there is scant physical evidence, admissible or otherwise. That doesn't mean no one did it. It means someone did who managed to leave little trace.

Happened long enough ago that modern evidence like security footage just didn't exist in abundance like it does now. And even if it did, it may have been long overwritten before their primary suspect emerged.

If they don't feel they have enough evidence to charge and convict, IMO they don't say 'oh, well', they don't release to the public what they do have, they just continue to 'work the case', perhaps waiting on new witnesses to come forward, new tips to come in, more evidence to surface.

Smart to continue the investigation. If CB is in fact responsible for disappearing MM (and worse), it's possible he didn't act alone. May have have inside information, for example. And not even that there was a child to take, but that certain guests left their units unattended, perfect for burglarizing.

Cat burglars bread and butter is getting in and out fast, taking quickly what is of value to them. Easy to carry, all the better.

That he had not been charged IMO is not a measure of his culpability but more a reflection on quality of presentable evidence. That does not means he's innocent. Flase equivalency.

JMO

 

[Megnut]

How does she get investigated if CB is not questioned and used her for an alibi?

I don't obviously know but IMO they know with whom he was traveling and could interview her.

My guess, CB isn't talking. And that night not be important to CB. He'll either remain silent or lie, neither of which is terribly helpful. But if she is talking, she has the potential to be a top shelf witness.

If she had previously (even unwittingly) alibied him for those nights, she may have come to realize that, in fact, there were hours -- key hours -- where in retrospect, she no longer could.

A factoid like that would take CB from having an alibi to having had an opportunity to be elsewhere, which opens the door --

JMO